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    Lumin X1 'V2'

    Is there any indication that Lumin will create a Version 2 of the X1. or a completely new top model..?
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    Re: Lumin X1 'V2'

    I'm sure there will be a future upgraded model. The question is when? And can the Lumin X1 be upgraded?

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    Re: Lumin X1 'V2'

    Being retired I am on the frugal side of spending, but if Lumin comes out with something better than the X1 then I will buy it. Assuming the improvements are audible and not functional or cosmetic. Then again, it will be difficult to improve on the X1.
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    Lumin X1 'V2'

    I don’t think so any time soon.

    Would love to see them branch beyond Sabre for a Statement piece. Maybe ladder DAC? Something new? AKM might not happen anytime soon since the factory burned down. How about a power supply in the same chassis as the main unit, but with two PSU’s - one for the digital section, one for the analog section?
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    Re: Lumin X1 'V2'

    Quote Originally Posted by calloway View Post
    Is there any indication that Lumin will create a Version 2 of the X1. or a completely new top model..?
    X1 will remain to be our flagship and not to be superceded anytime soon.
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    Re: Lumin X1 'V2'

    Peter..thanks..
    Listening Room: 25' L x 18' W x 23' H..system on the long wall
    Speakers: Tidal 'Contriva Diacera-SE
    Amps: Chalice Audio 'Grail' SET mono blocks with Psvane WE 845 / 300b tubes
    Source: Lumin X-1 Network Music Player
    HighFidelity MC-1 Pro Helix conditioner
    Cables:
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    SilverSmith 'Fidelium' speaker cables
    Silent Source 'Music Reference' Power Cords x 3
    Innuos 'PhoenixNet' Switch
    CAD-CG-1

    Audioquest 'fog lifters' under the Fidelium cables
    Arya Audio-RevOpods under my Tidal Speakers
    REL 212 SE Subwoofer x 2
    Nordost V2 ethernet cable

    EVP Isolation footers- subs-speakers- Lumin


    Tweaks:
    Stillpoints Ultra SS under amps
    EVP HDR isolators 2" x 8...under my Lumin A1 and PSU
    EVP HDR isolators 4" x 16..under my Tidal speakers and my REL 212 SE subs

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    Re: Lumin X1 'V2'

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    I don’t think so any time soon.

    Would love to see them branch beyond Sabre for a Statement piece. Maybe ladder DAC? Something new? AKM might not happen anytime soon since the factory burned down. How about a power supply in the same chassis as the main unit, but with two PSU’s - one for the digital section, one for the analog section?
    And, digital inputs!
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    Re: Lumin X1 'V2'

    Quote Originally Posted by wklie View Post
    X1 will remain to be our flagship and not to be superceded anytime soon.
    Good to know Peter as i am about to pull the trigger very soon , or late as i have been saving for this for a long time.... 1 or 2 weeks i will place my order with my local dealer , and nice to know that there is not a new one around the corner.
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    Re: Lumin X1 'V2'

    Go for it! Very happy with my X1. And it replaces my previous high end server and DAC. And couldn’t be happier with the X1 SQ and the money saved.

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    Re: Lumin X1 'V2'

    Yes, thanks for that information.

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    Re: Lumin X1 'V2'

    Thanks kimurastanley ... good to know.
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    Lumin X1 'V2'

    Quote Originally Posted by kimurastanley View Post
    Go for it! Very happy with my X1. And it replaces my previous high end server and DAC. And couldn’t be happier with the X1 SQ and the money saved.
    Knowing what you had, and having heard one part of it, that’s quite an endorsement Lumin X1 'V2'

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    Re: Lumin X1 'V2'

    Well i just placed my order for a Lumin X1 in black this Wednesday 21st. April , so now the waiting time , , almost like l like a child waiting for the Christmas
    And can't wait to hear how much better it is compared to my T1 that has served me very very well , and still performs very good for the money i paid for it some years back.
    I will use Nordost Frey 2 Power cord and Nordost Heimdall ethernet cable to feed it in the beginning , but when its burned in and i have a good sense on what it does i plan to try out sfp connection also..
    And from start i also plan on giving Qobuz a 1 month trial and see what that can compared to Tidal , we only very recently got Qobuz here in Denmark.
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    Re: Lumin X1 'V2'

    Flemming - Congratulations! The X1 is a terrific music server: musical, good looking, well built, easy to setup and use with outstanding support from Peter and the Lumin team.
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    Re: Lumin X1 'V2'

    wow flemming, very excited for you!!
    how long do you have to wait for?

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    Quote Originally Posted by u-sound View Post
    wow flemming, very excited for you!!
    how long do you have to wait for?
    Thanks a lot , and my dealer told me it usually takes 2 weeks with shipping , and then he said 2-3- weeks ....but now i have waited for almost 2,5 years for this to happen its that long time since i had it on loan ( November 2018 ) , and i read my notes i made when having it here , i was amazed on how much better it was. And at that time i was not using Nordost Frey 2 Powercord for my Accuphase E-470 , and only used the provided cord that comes with the Lumin x1. So am exited
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    Lumin X1 'V2'

    Nice Flemming! Pleas Let us know how is it when you get it.
    I am also using Nordost power cable on X1

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    Congrats Fleming. The X1 is my favorite component in my system! It’s heads and tails over and better than the D1 I had and so DYNAMIC! Enjoy. You’re going to love it.

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    Re: Lumin X1 'V2'

    Quote Originally Posted by kimurastanley View Post
    Nice Flemming! Pleas Let us know how is it when you get it.
    I am also using Nordost power cable on X1
    Thank you , and i will report back when i get it and have listened to it.
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    Re: Lumin X1 'V2'

    So it finally happened, got LUMIN X1 delivered yesterday afternoon ( Friday ) unpacked it and installed it on my rack. Straight out of the box , waouu it’s amazing. Super black background, so easy to hear what is going on on the stage or room where it was recorded. Intonations in the voice of the performer gives songs a hole new dimension. Bass is simply amazing. Am very happy
    When I figure out how to add a photo I will do so
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    And I just found out how to upload a photo from my IPad
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    Re: Lumin X1 'V2'

    lumin and linn, nothing looks better

    hey, flemming, cooool!!!
    i know how hard you were fighting for this unit. enjoy it my friend!

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    So happy for you as I know you’ve been waiting for it! Enjoy. I love my X1. Wouldn’t want any other streamer!

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    Congratulations Flemming! Indeed, the X1 is a terrific digital music player. Good looks, easy to setup, excellent support from Peter and Lumin and, best of all, great sound. Enjoy!
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    Re: Lumin X1 'V2'

    When it settles down, remember to try SFP

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    Re: Lumin X1 'V2'

    Congratulations!! The X1 is excellent. Like @kimurastanley said, try SFP

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    Re: Lumin X1 'V2'

    Thank you everyone , and yes its a really good digital player , and will be interesting too see how it developes , with more hours on the unit.....i will for sure try the SFP as its fairly inexpensive , and i am a curious person so i will for sure try it out. So far it is simply great and i really enjoy the " insight " to the recordings it gives me as well as still being musical.
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    Nordost QB8
    Fibercable for feeding the Lumin X1
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    Re: Lumin X1 'V2'

    Another happy owner of an X1 here. Made the jump from a U1, which is no slouch at optimizing the stream into my previous DAC. The X1 is an excellent streamer/DAC. Recently connected via SFP and so far so good.
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    Re: Lumin X1 'V2'

    Low325 , Congratulations with your X1 , you will be super happy with it. I just added the remote to my Lumin as i am now using my Accuphase-470 with its amp section only, and use the Leedh on the Lumin X1 which is amazing. And the remote control is really good quality , easy to set-up and enjoy.
    For SFP i am thinking more and more to upgrade my switch ( Dlink ) to a Sotm as it has the SFP build in.
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    Fibercable for feeding the Lumin X1
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    Re: Lumin X1 'V2'

    Thanks Flemming! Besides reading the reviews on upscale for the X1 remote, I supposed i didnt have to go far to get a valued review from a forum member. I am considering the remote as well. While my Diablo 120 isn’t a true fully balanced amp, I’m choosing to use the XLRs for more gain. I guess I can use the RCA out from the X1 and bump up the Analog Level from low to normal to make up for the extra gain…as I am cross posting this, I will have to do that one day to compare sq gains. But not now, already enjoying it too much.

    I like your idea integrating SFP with a SoTM. The audiophile-esque extras should benefit the SQ.

    Quote Originally Posted by FDPDK View Post
    Low325 , Congratulations with your X1 , you will be super happy with it. I just added the remote to my Lumin as i am now using my Accuphase-470 with its amp section only, and use the Leedh on the Lumin X1 which is amazing. And the remote control is really good quality , easy to set-up and enjoy.
    For SFP i am thinking more and more to upgrade my switch ( Dlink ) to a Sotm as it has the SFP build in.
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    Re: Lumin X1 'V2'

    The X1 is an incredible streamer/DAC. How many X1 owners are using it as both streamer and DAC. If streamer only, which DAC have you found that outperforms its DAC? I keep going back and forth between using the X1's DAC and using it as a streamer connected to my Lampizator Big 7. It's a close call, but all in all I like the dynamics of the Lampi DAC. I perceive I'm giving up a bit more detail offered by the X1's DAC, but the dynamics of the Lampi seem to be preferable to me. First world problems, I know!

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    Re: Lumin X1 'V2'

    I’m able to use another dac with the slightest of effort if needed for 2CH listening. It’s the optional DAC in my Diablo 120. The X1 DAC has more detail with the extension up top just sounding so open but never stressed.

    For about a week, while I was waiting for my XLRs to arrive, I used the X1 just as a pure streamer and found it to perform and sound just as great as my U1. The DAC in the Diablo is no slouch. I think the performance in a solid steamer like Lumins top tier optimizes any external DAC, especially at an equal or higher price point than the streamer portion itself.

    If I were to do it over again, I wouldn’t hesitate to buy another U1 or X1 to use as a steamer again into my Diablo. Once I get the X1 to fully burn in, I’ll put more effort into critical listening. I know the Diablo dac can only be used in a Diablo so it’s not really considered ‘standalone’ but just goes to show it’s about the implementation.
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    Re: Lumin X1 'V2'

    I'm using the X1 into my Diablo 300, I don't have the Gryphon DAC like Low325 so using the X1 as streamer/DAC and I'm very happy with what I hear.

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