Thread: Lumin X1

after installing the fuses and hearing the improvement they made compared to the stock fuses the designer stated that if/when he started the company back up he would offer the Quantum fuses as an option.will be upgrading to the next version in about 1 month. he is very interested in hearing that upgrade...

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Originally Posted by staged

I apologized if this has been asked: Is it a "waste" if I were to purchase a X1 to run through a Lyngdorf MP50? I ask because the Lyngdorph only has digital inputs (SPDIF, USB, AES, etc) and it's impossible to bypass the MP50 DAC. I like the MP50 DAC and love roomperfect, but since part of the X1's excellence is the DAC, would I be better off with an U1 or other high end streamer-only?

Does the X1 digitial out bypass the X1 DAC?

While digital output does indeed bypass the DAC stage of X1, so it might seem like you are paying for something you don't need, LUMIN X1 is still the best LUMIN transport.
We have a graphic showing the differences on this page with an explanation of why we included X1 in the 'Transports' section:
LUMIN Model Differences

Obviously, whether the improvements found in X1 are worth the extra money is something only you can decide. Always worth demoing if you can.

Originally Posted by staged

I apologized if this has been asked: Is it a "waste" if I were to purchase a X1 to run through a Lyngdorf MP50? I ask because the Lyngdorph only has digital inputs (SPDIF, USB, AES, etc) and it's impossible to bypass the MP50 DAC. I like the MP50 DAC and love roomperfect, but since part of the X1's excellence is the DAC, would I be better off with an U1 or other high end streamer-only?

Does the X1 digitial out bypass the X1 DAC?

Yes

Originally Posted by staged

I apologized if this has been asked: Is it a "waste" if I were to purchase a X1 to run through a Lyngdorf MP50? I ask because the Lyngdorph only has digital inputs (SPDIF, USB, AES, etc) and it's impossible to bypass the MP50 DAC. I like the MP50 DAC and love roomperfect, but since part of the X1's excellence is the DAC, would I be better off with an U1 or other high end streamer-only?

Does the X1 digitial out bypass the X1 DAC?

X1 digital output bypasses the X1 DAC.

For connection to your Lyngdorf, I suggest using a 1.5m AES cable from a Lumin U1 or U1 MINI.

Originally Posted by mauideejay

Hi everyone.
My X1 arrives tomorrow 🤗
I agonized over choosing a streamer and DAC for quite some time but I feel super confident in my choice.
Wanted to thank Peter for all his time answering my newbie questions. The whole streaming digital thing is very foreign to me.
Now I guess the real work begins in deciding how to set it up in my system, what I will use as storage for my own music as well as how I will set it up to stream from Qobuz and Roon
I have a Luxman D-10X so will use the X1 to stream to it’s dac as well as using the built in one. Choice is good!
But for now I just want to hook it up and get it burning in.
I know the questions will follow thick and fast !
Aloha 🤙

Hey Braddah. 🤙🏽

You made a solid choice. The X1 is a fantastic streamer, probably one of the best and you get the benefits of an external LPS, SFP input and a solid chassis. Im nervous to carry this thing around afraid that I would drop it on my foot and I’m sure it won’t be pretty.
The lumin team continuously makes a case on delivering a solid product with their firmware upgrades.

You have some nice toys to play with do please share your thoughts between the two DACs.

Congrats!


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Congrats on your X1! A very good sounding, reliable and easy to setup and operate piece.

That was super easy to set up. Plugged in, ethernet to router. Discovered by Roon. That is good enough for now.
Burn-in time

Hmmmm....setting up the Lumin app with Minimserver is not exactly a walk in the park ;-) But I got it streaming from Radio Paradise yesterday and it blew me away. Could not believe the quality from an internet radio station. Last time I listened to one (years ago) it was steaming MP3 garbage. We all sat around in wonder (and thanks!) at the amazing selection that was to fed us from their "World Mix" station. The best and most diverse curated music selection I have ever experienced. Can't wait to get the X1 fully set up and burned in. Time to sell my physical media?????

Congrats on your X1. It’s a terrific component.

I’m not sure about setting it up to work with Minimserver. When setup to play music from a Lumin L1 or just streaming from Tidal or Qobuz setup is a breeze. And, best of all, it sounds terrific!

Peter may be able to comment on setting it up to play with Minimserver.

Conulations with your X1 , its a really good component and i love mine. Has just tried Roon as the good offer on Black Friday so have to figure that out now

Hi. Just confirming is the only way to bypass the gain/preamp in the X1 by going digital out? My new-to-me Bakoon amp is designed to have an awesome gain control and would like to allow it to single handily do it’s thing.

There is no active preamp gain in Lumin network streamer series (except M1). You may simply use X1 analog output at volume 100 (or volume control off).

Okay! I guess that settles it then. X1 direct…. Thanks Peter. Wait, not even the P1 has a preamp?

Edit; yes just re-read my question. No preamp on digital out, would that mean no preamp on the analog section?

Originally Posted by wklie

There is no active preamp gain in Lumin network streamer series (except M1). You may simply use X1 analog output at volume 100 (or volume control off).

That depends on your definition of preamp.

Functionally, preamp implies switching among different inputs and volume control (that's why P1 is a preamp). Lumin certainly has a volume control, which works for both analog and digital outputs. P1 adds multiple inputs.

We do not have active gain (other than M1).

At 6V rms output you should not need active gain. What happens nowadays is that many users suffer from having too much gain in the setup.

Congrats! The X1 is a very nice component.

In theory having both analog XLR and RCA outputs connected for Lumin X1 P1 S1 A1 T1 will degrade SQ, even if one equipment is not powered on. However, you'll have to do a listening test to determine whether is is noticeable or not.

P1 allows a direct connection from CD Transport, but X1 does not have digital audio inputs like P1 does.

You may rip the CD to files (e.g. FLAC).

Alternatively, subscribe to a streaming service (Qobuz or Tidal) to avoid the need for ripping CDs.

No, the hardware cannot support that.

Just use the free MinimServer. Find a fanless NAS if necessary.

Originally Posted by Crocorock

I use QNap NAS and ethernet .
But I have read that L1 had a much better sound quality.

Thanks

It does.

Anyone know if the X1 is being discontinued/replaced? I seem to be seeing a lot of these on the used market.

Here goes nothing!

Lumin Firmware 15.2

- Add P1 input label (require app update)
- Add metadata support for many FLAC radio stations
- Add more FLAC radio stations
- Add front panel play time / volume mode (require app update)
- Update AirPlay front panel logo
- Update Spotify Connect SDK
- Improve support for nextcp2 control point

Upgrade went smooth on the X1, never a problem. btw, just want to say using Lumin’s app sounds better to my ears than streaming through Roon.

Originally Posted by Low325

Lumin’s app sounds better to my ears than streaming through Roon.

Agree

Thats interesting that Lumin app sounds better than ROON , i will have to check that out. And if i find the same then i will save some money on the ROON subscription.