Thread: Lumin U2 Mini

Originally Posted by wklie

For applicable models (only), AirPlay2 AAC improvement.

Is it for the U2 mini?

Thanks.

I just got a U2 Mini and I'm trying to use Tidal Connect and can't seem to get it connected. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Also anyway of getting the app to run on a Windows laptop

Thanks. One other question, I'm still trying to figure out the best way to control the Mini. I have a Samsung phone, just bought a Galaxy tablet and currently trying out Roon on my laptop because I haven't been able to get Tidal connect to work off my laptop. I am also thinking maybe iPad so back to my question. Does the Lumin app appear on all these devices the same way or are they laid out differently due to what they are, Ie iPad, Android phone, Android tablet etc...

Disabling the fire wall doesn't fix the problem. Tidal connect works from my phone but not my laptop. There is supposed to be an I con next to the volume icon in the lower portion of the picture I posted.

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Check the Windows Network type (on your laptop): it must be Private and not Public

Originally Posted by stefano-mbp

Check the Windows Network type (on your laptop): it must be Private and not Public

I checked it says private. windows fire wall is off, and I also shut off Norton and it still will not work. Tidal connect is active in Lumin settings

Are the laptop and the smartphone both on the very same subnet, for example 192.168.0.xxx?

Originally Posted by stefano-mbp

Are the laptop and the smartphone both on the very same subnet, for example 192.168.0.xxx?

Yes they have the same number

Originally Posted by wklie

I tested Tidal Windows app 2.36.2.54 on Windows 10 Pro 21H1. It can see and Tidal Connect to Lumin, and play successfully.

Uninstall Tidal app and reinstall it.

Make sure all firewall and internet security are turned off. Windows network set to private instead of public. Power cycle the whole network of devices starting from the router. If Tidal app does not see Lumin, toggle Tidal Connect on/off in Lumin app again.

We have lift off. All I had to do was uninstall and reinstall the Tidal app. All security was left on. Thanks.

NT

Originally Posted by Puma Cat

If I were to hypothesize, from what I've read so far, this seems to be a Tidal Connect-based failure mode, and not a Lumin one.

Agree

In my opinion all that for not so good sound quality. The Tidal connect app is great for interface but I vote it 3rd in what I have tried. In order of best to worst in SQ is
1. Lumin app
2. Roon
3. Tidal connect app.

So it looks like I have no choice but to use my phone or buy a tablet. I cast my vote for Lumin to come out with a windows app for us older folks that need a larger screen.

Try that thread:

Lumin App for Windows 11 for PC

I stick with Linn Kinsky for Windows. There are some other apps like Asset Control and Upplay and some use a Android Emulator.

Originally Posted by Carlo

Try that thread:

Lumin App for Windows 11 for PC

I stick with Linn Kinsky for Windows. There are some other apps like Asset Control and Upplay and some use a Android Emulator.

I will try the kinski. I read that thread and tried the Linn Kazoo but Tidal wasnt showing up, just Qobuz.I really don't understand any of the computer stuff they talk about so I may have to wait for someone to help me hands on.

My latest problem is for some reason when I go to play music from my NAS all songs are showing multiple times in the playlist. Some 3 in a row and some 4 in a row. No problem till today.

Originally Posted by wklie

Please install the free MinimServer on NAS, make sure to set the correct directory for your music.

Disable your NAS DLNA/UPnP server if not needed for other purposes.

I'll give it a try when I have someone with computer knowledge here. Thanks again

Now when listening to tidal through the Lumin app I can only add one song at a time from my Tidal playlist. It was adding the whole playlist and playing all the songs. I have not changed anything in the settings. And when i go to my favorite artists shouldn't they come up in alphabetical order?

Ok now long press on the playlist album art adds all songs. Been trying that since 3am and it's now 8am. Good thing I'm retired.

Originally Posted by wklie

In Lumin app, between the left arrow button and the "Favorite Artists (# items)" there is a button to control sort order.

You can just use Tidal app if its UI suits you more.

To me the Tidal app sound bad. Thanks for the response

Any chance is there is a compatability issue via USB to a MHDT dac. Lumin via USB will play fine via my Pontus Dac but not on the MHDT Dac. Coax plays fine with the MHDT dac

Originally Posted by Puma Cat

Sure, there is always the possibility of failure modes*. If I were to hazard a guess, it's the MHDT DAC itself, because many, many other U2 Mini users use their U2 Mini with many other USB DACs with no problems, at all.

The fact that your Pontus DAC that also works fine with the USB interface with the U2 also indicates that the the problem likely lies with the MHDT DAC, and not the Lumin U2.

If you want to continue to try to use the MHDT DAC, it would be helpful to perform an FMEA† as this wil be most effective (doing the RIGHT thing) and efficent (doing things RIGHT) approach to determine and remediate the root cause of the failure mode(s) when using USB. The website linked below is web page on how to perform an FMEA. Or, use Coax.

If it were me, I'd just use the Pontus as...it works.

Then you could follow Hans Beekhuizen's advice and..."Enjoy the music."😉

Cheers.

*– failure mode: anything that can go wrong
†– FMEA: Failure Mode Effect Analysis link here: FMEA

Thanks for the info. I should add that the USB on the MHDT works with my BS Node thats why I was asking maybe an issue with compatability

It is the Orchid DAC. I was only hooking one up at a time. The unit is now sold and I needed to test it before shipping it out.

From the Orchid user manual -
"in
case of no sound from USB port, please check if there is any device conflict
by device management under control panel.

Avoid using USB hub in connecting Orchid DAC. Signal through USB hub may not work properly and also decrease the sound performance.
If none of these suggestions cure the problem, please do not hesitate to contact us."

Originally Posted by billo

From the Orchid user manual -
"in
case of no sound from USB port, please check if there is any device conflict
by device management under control panel.
Avoid using USB hub in connecting Orchid DAC. Signal through USB hub may not work properly and also decrease the sound performance.
If none of these suggestions cure the problem, please do not hesitate to contact us."

This is referring to if you are using a computer. There is no other control panel.

I pulled my Orchid out of the garage and tried it via usb with my u2 mini. No lock light on the Orchid. Mini is in usb mode under settings. The usb cable is a Wire World. Looking like our condition may be SNAFU. If you figure something out please post.

Originally Posted by billo

I pulled my Orchid out of the garage and tried it via usb with my u2 mini. No lock light on the Orchid. Mini is in usb mode under settings. The usb cable is a Wire World. Looking like our condition may be SNAFU. If you figure something out please post.

Thanks for confirming but I sold the unit. It did work with my BS Node which I confirmed before shipping it out to the new owner. Just didn't confirm if he has a Lumin. LOL

Originally Posted by wklie

Please install the free MinimServer on NAS, make sure to set the correct directory for your music.

Disable your NAS DLNA/UPnP server if not needed for other purposes.

So I cant figure out how to do this. Instead how do you disconnect the NAS from the U2 mini so I can just set it up again.

Thanks