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    Lumin U2 Mini




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    Re: Lumin U2 Mini

    All new processor.

    LUMIN U2 MINI


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    Re: Lumin U2 Mini

    I have one on order. I'm curious how it will perform against the P1 and the Auralic Aries G1.

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    Re: Lumin U2 Mini

    Mike, about $2,200 or there about
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    Re: Lumin U2 Mini

    In Germany there was a moderate (considering the cost explosion of chips and other material these days) price increase from € 2,200 to € 2,500. Don't know about the US market.
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    Re: Lumin U2 Mini

    Msrp $2350

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    Welcome to the forum, thank you for the info.
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    You’re welcome.

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    Re: Lumin U2 Mini

    Nice, I will have to check this out when it becomes available!


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    Re: Lumin U2 Mini

    If I am using the DAC from Anthem AVM 90 does it make sense to sell my Lumin T2 and buy the U2 Mini Thanks

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    Re: Lumin U2 Mini

    Hi,
    This is my first post in this forum , i am very interested in this streamer because of the DSD 256 up-sampling ,,, any feedback regrading this feature,
    also i suppose it do native DSD output ?
    Thanks in advancd

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    Re: Lumin U2 Mini

    Lumin (and Linux) native DSD compatibility is dependent on the USB controller and the firmware inside the DAC.

    Which DAC are you using?
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    Re: Lumin U2 Mini

    I am planing to use it with AudioGD DI20HE connected to AudioGD R7 through I2S ,, if Lumin U2 Mini is better i may connect it directly to the R7 Dac through the USB
    It use Amanero Combo 384 USB Interface

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    Re: Lumin U2 Mini

    Unless you have manually upgraded the DI-20HE Amanero firmware to 2006be10 or later, DSD256 / DSD512 won't work from Lumin or any Linux-based streamer.
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    Re: Lumin U2 Mini

    How do I set custom settings on Lumin T2. Streaming Qobuz sounds great with custom set to off but want to improve sound of my CD's that I stream through a Network Hard Drive with Lumin. Is there a specific setting for CD's? Thanks

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    Re: Lumin U2 Mini

    If you're using digital output, please keep Re-sampling disabled.

    You may disable any unused services such as Roon Ready, Spotify Connect, Tidal Connect, AirPlay "Lumin Streaming".
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    Re: Lumin U2 Mini

    I am connected with analog cables. There are no specific settings under custom for CD's?

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    Re: Lumin U2 Mini

    Quote Originally Posted by Eastbaybob View Post
    I am connected with analog cables. There are no specific settings under custom for CD's?
    Are you looking for a de-emphasis feature? I can't think of anything else that would be "CD-specific". There is a "De-Emphasis for 44.1kHz CD Files" option under the Lumin settings.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eastbaybob View Post
    I am connected with analog cables. There are no specific settings under custom for CD's?
    If you wish to try upsampling ripped CDs then just leave everything else at 'Native' and change 44.1kHz to either 176.4kHz or DSD.

    Try both and see which you prefer.

    You can also change PCM Output Bit Depth to 24-bit. Again - see which you prefer.


    If you like what you hear when upsampled, then you may as well change the 48Khz settings to match.
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    Thanks, that is exactly the info I was looking for

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    Re: Lumin U2 Mini

    In the first week of July 2022, there will be a firmware upgrade for U2 Mini to fix a USB low volume issue from some particular (not all) USB DAC.

    If you’re using USB output from U2 Mini, there is a small chance that after doing the firmware upgrade, the DAC output volume will be increased even without changing the Lumin volume or volume control enable/disable setting.

    This issue does not affect U1 / U1 Mini or any other Lumin model. They will not receive the same firmware upgrade.
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    Re: Lumin U2 Mini

    Quote Originally Posted by Eastbaybob View Post
    If I am using the DAC from Anthem AVM 90 does it make sense to sell my Lumin T2 and buy the U2 Mini Thanks
    Same Question here.
    I use T2 with Farad Power Suply and ordered a Lampizator Amber 3 Dac.
    Any thoughts that the U2 Mini could be the better Streaming Transport ?

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    Re: Lumin U2 Mini

    U2 Mini comes with an internal SMPS, the same one as used in stock T2 or U1 Mini.
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    Brothers in Arms ;-) U1 Mini vs U2 Mini



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    Re: Lumin U2 Mini

    Do any Lumin models have internal storage? I looked at every model but did not find any with storage. I have a very good DAC but need a new server with internal storage.
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    Re: Lumin U2 Mini

    Lumin L1 LUMIN L1

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dizzie View Post
    Do any Lumin models have internal storage? I looked at every model but did not find any with storage. I have a very good DAC but need a new server with internal storage.
    Lumin's model - a tightly integrated, turn-key NAS called L1, to be used in conjunction with a Lumin streamer/dac (not stand-alone) - is imo a more modular approach, preferable to internal storage. You can also connect an external usb drive direct to the U2 I believe.
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    Re: Lumin U2 Mini

    None of the Lumin network players / transports have internal storage - you can stream from Tidal / Qobuz / Spotify / Roon / NAS or computer running MinimServer or L1. The Lumin L1 is a library only - it's not a streamer so you cannot connect a USB DAC to the L1.

    L1 only supports its internal drive, it does NOT support addition of external USB HDD.
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    Re: Lumin U2 Mini

    My Systems: http://www.audioshark.org/showthread...481#post158481

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    Re: Lumin U2 Mini

    Good morning everyone

    When I was considering the Lumin as a streamer a couple of years ago, there were complaints from users using android based tablets/phones/computers. Has this issued improved?

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    Re: Lumin U2 Mini

    A long time ago we hired an experienced Android app developer and have rewritten the Android app since then. At this point I'd say the Android app is on par, if not better, than the iOS app. I no longer want to pick up my very old iPad Air (which has since become very slow) for Lumin app at work any more unless I have to - I just launch the Lumin app on my personal Android phone.

    Lumin also offers the most flexibility for app choices - you can use other OpenHome apps like Linn Kazoo, Roon Remote app (if you use Roon), Tidal app (Tidal Connect), Spotify app (Spotify Connect), etc.
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    Thanks Peter. Good to hear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Emil View Post
    Good morning everyone

    When I was considering the Lumin as a streamer a couple of years ago, there were complaints from users using android based tablets/phones/computers. Has this issued improved?
    Since the beginning, when Lumin appeared on the market, I always use only android for navigating, config and updating without any problems. And the Android compatibility was the main reason I decided to buy Lumin, nor Auralic which these days was "dedicated" for Mac users (without Android app) .
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    Re: Lumin U2 Mini

    Thanks Marcin.

    Final hurdle: The Lumin OS itself.

    I'm currently using a Bluesound Node with their OS. No issues, no crashes, easy to navigate.
    So say its the best there is. Any ex-node users here care to comment on switching?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Emil View Post
    Thanks Marcin.

    Final hurdle: The Lumin OS itself.

    I'm currently using a Bluesound Node with their OS. No issues, no crashes, easy to navigate.
    So say its the best there is. Any ex-node users here care to comment on switching?
    For a long time I use Node & few Yamaha MusicCast players, so don't be afraid - the stability and ergonomic of Lumin App is the same or even better ;-)
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    Re: Lumin U2 Mini

    Well ok then.
    Ordered and arriving Tuesday

    How sensitive is them Mini to powercord changes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Emil View Post
    Well ok then.
    Ordered and arriving Tuesday

    How sensitive is them Mini to powercord changes?
    Just connect it by some from Atlas, IsoTek or Furutech, portfolio and everything will be ok ;-)
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    Re: Lumin U2 Mini

    Mini 2 arrived yesterday!
    Setup was a breeze. Hardest part was remembering my Tidal and Qobuz passwords.
    No issues using my android tablet. Worked flawlessly.
    Any way to change the background from white to dark?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Emil View Post
    Mini 2 arrived yesterday!
    Setup was a breeze. Hardest part was remembering my Tidal and Qobuz passwords.
    No issues using my android tablet. Worked flawlessly.
    Any way to change the background from white to dark?
    klick @ app setup and in Appearance choose "Dark"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Emil View Post
    Mini 2 arrived yesterday!
    Setup was a breeze. Hardest part was remembering my Tidal and Qobuz passwords.
    No issues using my android tablet. Worked flawlessly.
    Any way to change the background from white to dark?
    Congratulations!
    Hope you enjoy your time with LUMIN U2 Mini!

    On the app, press the cog icon and scroll until you see 'Theme'
    There are 4 to choose from:

    Light: The original theme. Light grey with gradients and shadows
    Dark: Dark grey with gradients and shadows
    White: Mostly black text on a flat white background
    Black: Mostly white text on a flat black background

    More settings info here:
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    Thanks!

    Anyone use the mini as a preamp with its LEEDH digital signal processing?

    Pardon me if these questions have been asked before. I'm a bit late to the party

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    Quote Originally Posted by Emil View Post
    Anyone use the mini as a preamp with its LEEDH digital signal processing?
    I use the X1 direct to amp, using Leedh volume control. Sounds amazing to me. Have not done a true A/B with a pre-amp, but I did hear the amp at the dealer, with a pre-amp, and I don’t feel like I’ve given anything up. Could be a “real” a/b would make me feel differently, but I don’t think I’m the only one reporting that Leedh volume control works well.

    When I had volume control in my previous amp, I found that using a combination of Leedh with the amp’s volume control sounded best to me. I kept the Lumin at 94, and used the amp to do the rest. Not sure why this would be the case, but it was consistent to my ear, that arrangement gave me the most of what I like.

    I guess in the end, try it both ways.
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    If you have a way to attenuate the volume after the Lumin then you should try both ways. Set the Lumin to 100 and adjust the volume after it... then reduce the Lumin to 99 and adjust the volume after it again. The reason this makes a difference is that LeedH processing takes places in the Lumin at all volume settings other than 100. You may decide that the processing adds something that you enjoy to the final sound.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Emil View Post
    Anyone use the mini as a preamp with its LEEDH digital signal processing?

    Pardon me if these questions have been asked before. I'm a bit late to the party
    Yes. There are users using it this way.

    After you have familiarize with Lumin app control of it, you may A/B compare Lumin volume control against your preamp volume control (with Lumin volume control being off) to see which sounds better to you in your setup for the music you listen to. You may even try bypassing the preamp, but start playback with Lumin volume at a very low level.
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    So anyone can share their experience when comparing the U2 Mini to other streamers they listened to?

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    Re: Lumin U2 Mini

    Lumin U2 mini is on my purchasing radar. There are a few other contenders as well. As much as I would like to stay in the Esoteric ecosystem, stumping up $10K for a N-03T is a tough ask just for playing Spotify.
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    Re: Lumin U2 Mini

    U2 Mini, naturally, is perfect for Esoteric DAC when it comes to Esoteric native DSD compatibility. It also has Leedh Processing Volume, FLAC radio, and some other additional features.

    Note that you can use Esoteric Sound Stream app to control playback from Lumin when you're not using Spotify Connect or Tidal Connect, if you have a preference for Esoteric color scheme. Functionally you're actually staying in Esoteric ecosystem.
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The AudioShark forum was created for sharing the passion of high-end Audio. We have Audiophiles from all over the world participating and sharing their knowledge. From novice to experts, you will find a friendly environment for discussing about High End Audio, Stereo System, Home Theater System, Home Stereo System, Home Theater Installation, Amplifiers, Speakers, Subwoofers, Integrated System, Acoustic treatments & Digital Room Corrections and many more.

At AudioShark, we also have incorporated an exciting Marketplace where members can peruse terrific buys on used gear, as well as meet dealers and discuss the purchase of new gear.

We are as crazy about this hobby as you are! So come on in and join us! Audioshark.org the Friendliest Audio Forum!

Industry Participation Disclosure : The owner and administrator of Audioshark is the owner of Suncoast Audio LLC in Sarasota Florida. Suncoast Audio has a full brick and mortar presence in Sarasota with several great show rooms with many world class brands. More information can be found at http://www.suncoastaudio.com

Audioshark is a community of like minded individuals. Audioshark welcomes participation from all manufacturers and owners of all brands and products. It is our belief that online forums provide a community of like minded audiophiles and music lovers to encourage the growth of this wonderful hobby.

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The Audioshark.org Team

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