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    Lumin T3

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    Re: Lumin T3

    Looks like a nice piece. Unfortunately, Lumin still omitting digital inputs.
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    Re: Lumin T3

    Inputs are on P1.
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    Re: Lumin T3

    Quote Originally Posted by wklie View Post
    Inputs are on P1.
    Why would you buy a T3 if you also need a P1 for you digital inputs? Both include streamer and DAC. The T3 appears to be lacking in digital inputs - something any DAC should surely include? The P1, described as streamer, DAC and preamp, doesn't have a volume control!

    What are these people thinking of? Who would buy a DAC without digital inputs? Who would buy a preamp without a volume control? Though it's probably controlled by a phone. However good these units may sound, some degree of practicality should surely be provided. Or have I missed something?
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    Re: Lumin T3

    What led you to think P1 does not have volume control?

    Volume can be controlled in various apps (true for all Lumin streamers), or using the physical remote (standard for P1, add-on purchase for other models).
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    Re: Lumin T3

    Quote Originally Posted by wklie View Post
    What led you to think P1 does not have volume control?

    Volume can be controlled in various apps (true for all Lumin streamers), or using the physical remote (standard for P1, add-on purchase for other models).
    As I said, I have no doubt the volume can be controlled from an app, but why no good old-fashioned volume knob on the front panel? How often does the RC disappear between cushions or end up under a newpaper or is otherwise out of sight? Even Up Down buttons would be better than nothing.
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    Re: Lumin T3

    This, and using Roon as my main interface, was why I went with the Grimm Mu1. My system is also the main AV unit in the front room. Inputs get switched, the power goes on, the volume is off, etc... we need to quickly reach for the volume knob to adjust...
    My Tambaqui has push button volume control, but that is too cumbersome. And usually, finding the remote involves a search party.
    Once I'm an empty nester (if I'm still alive...), rotary knob will be optional.
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    Re: Lumin T3

    Quote Originally Posted by Hear Here View Post
    Who would buy a DAC without digital inputs? Who would buy a preamp without a volume control? Though it's probably controlled by a phone. However good these units may sound, some degree of practicality should surely be provided. Or have I missed something?
    Even though the volume is controllable via the Lumin app, I've never used it, and I've never thought I needed one on the unit itself. All my volume control is done via my integrated amp. As for inputs, a network input is a "digital" input, is it not? That's the only input I've ever needed.
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    Re: Lumin T3

    I use the volume control in the app almost exclusively…. most of the time I’m already in there managing my playlist. And I use the very nice Lumin remote when that happens to be more convenient.

    When I had integrated amps with front panel controls, I never used them. I used the amp’s remote, or if I was feeling especially lazy I used the app volume control. Why get up and cross the room, disrupting my comfort and listening session, just to change volume?

    I have no need nor desire for additional digital inputs, although I can see how others might. So…. P1.
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    Re: Lumin T3

    Thanks Mike for posting.

    I’m looking at trading my sim390 in for the T3. I don’t use any inputs, stream only and use Roon. I have a 760A for a power amp and all Siltech into focals. Anyone have any idea how this would sound vs my 390. I’m missing the transparency from my old Mini that I had. I will be adding a power booster off the hop.

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