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December 29, 2022, 02:40 AM #1
Lumin Spotify
I'm making a beta firmware to improve sound quality for Spotify Connect.
Spotify users please let me know which Lumin model you're using.Peter Lie
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December 29, 2022, 11:59 AM #2
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Re: Lumin Spotify
I'm using an A1.
While a sound quality bump is welcome, Spotify just doesn't sound as good as almost any other service in my subjective comparisons. So as it is, my expectations are low when I use Spotify.
Unrelated to Spotify, I also subjectively found that enabling MQA diminishes overall sound quality. I have a handful of MQA compact discs ripped but based on what I heard with the MQA feature, I'll only enable it when playing those MQA titles. Does sound quality with MQA enabled vary on Lumin players from model to model?Christian
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December 30, 2022, 12:33 AM #3
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January 3, 2023, 06:51 PM #4
Re: Lumin Spotify
Peter, Lumin U1. Thank you for always being mindful of improvements!
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January 6, 2023, 03:19 PM #5
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Re: Lumin Spotify
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January 11, 2023, 10:45 AM #6
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After weeks of re-examining the Spotify Connect SDK and its interfacing with our architecture, I’ve been able to find several areas for sound quality improvement for Spotify Connect.
This work is now released in Firmware 15.3, and will be gradually released to the whole Lumin lineup.
For Spotify, I believe that we surpass those competitors that only did a standard integration.
I encourage users to create a Spotify Free account and try it out. You may be able to discover new music to your liking with it. Note that only streamers with certified and authentic Spotify SDK can play Spotify Free - those competitors using the open source reverse engineered library cannot.Peter Lie
LUMIN Firmware Lead
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January 17, 2023, 01:27 PM #7
Re: Lumin Spotify
Dear Peter many thanks for your usual support and improvements. I will check it out this evening on my A1 and will let you know. Greetings from Buenos Aires
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January 18, 2023, 05:58 PM #8
Re: Lumin Spotify
Today I updated my P1 to the latest firmware and played around with Spotify for half an hour.
To me it sounds pretty decent, just using the free version right now. I did switch back to Tidal right after, played the same songs, and it was better for sure.
Peter, is the free version the one you updated, or the Premium?
I have not tried Spotify on my P1 before, so I have nothing to compare it to unfortunately.
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January 18, 2023, 08:49 PM #9
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Spotify's free tier offers 128kbps AAC for web playback, or up to ~160kbps on desktop/mobile/tablet. Spotify premium offers 256kbps AAC and up to ~320kbps AAC for those same categories, respectively.
Tidal's free tier is up to ~160kbps AAC but if you are paying then their HiFi tier is up to ~1411kbps FLAC and HiFi Plus is up to ~9216kbps "stuff".
So comparing Spotify to Tidal is not really the best way to determine if Spotify is sounding good or better than other Spotify implementations.Neko Audio
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January 18, 2023, 09:20 PM #10
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Yes I pay for the full version of Tidal, MQA, videos, everything they have to offer.
Qobuz is not available in Canada, or I would probably use it.😔
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January 19, 2023, 02:42 AM #11
Re: Lumin Spotify
Lumin firmware 15.3 improves the sound quality of both Spotify Premium (320kbps OGG Vorbis when using Lumin) and Spotify Free (160kbps OGG Vorbis when using Lumin).
At 160kbps it cannot compare to lossless streaming.
At 320kbps some Lumin users think it sounds quite close to lossless streaming.Peter Lie
LUMIN Firmware Lead
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August 24, 2023, 11:08 PM #12
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I'm using an A1.
While a sound quality bump is welcome, Spotify just doesn't sound as good as almost any other service in my subjective comparisons.
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August 25, 2023, 07:19 AM #13
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Spotify sounds pretty good, and the total Spotify experience wins hands down for me.
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August 26, 2023, 04:58 AM #14
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Re: Lumin Spotify
yes, same opinion as you spotify premium gratis is a great app
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