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    Lumin + Roon

    Currently I am using 2 Lumin A1's (2 different systems, 2 different locations) and am considering adding Roon. I have found accessing Tidal via the Lumin app to offer fewer browsing options of the Tidal catalogue than I find by using Tidal's Web Access. Will Roon improve this situation?

    Additionally, I have read some user comments that the SQ when using Roon is inferior to that when using Tidal via the Lumin alone. Is this true?
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    Re: Lumin + Roon

    It should be possible to browse using Tidal app, then mark albums as favorites for playback from Lumin app, or simply AirPlay from Tidal app to Lumin (but this path is not ideal for Tidal Masters MQA albums).

    Roon offers more textual metadata information and linkage for music discovery.
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    Re: Lumin + Roon

    I am running Roon on a Nucleus+ through a Lumin X-1. The output indication in the Roon display is showing Airplay. I understand this is a sonic compromise and that I should disable Airplay. How is that done?
    Tom
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    Country System:
    SoundLab Ultimate-1PX Electrostatic Speakers
    Pass Labs XP-32 pre, Pass Labs XA60.8 Amps
    Pass Lab XP-27 phono stage
    SME 20/2 table with SME V arm, Stillpoints LPI
    Minus-K BM-8 passive vibration control under tt
    Dynavector XV-1s, Koeitsu Rosewood Signature cartridges, Klaudio RCM
    Roon Nucleus+ powered by Keces P-8 LPS
    Lumin X-1 Network Music Player
    3 dedicated AC lines
    Shunyata Omega PC to Everest for all source devices
    Typhon for each amp powered by 2 dedicated circuits
    Various Shunyata Alpha & Sigma PC's throughout.
    Stillpoints under everything.

    City System:
    Ayre KX-R Twenty Preamp
    Pass Labs X-260.8 Monoblocks
    Esoteric K-03 SACD Player
    Roon Nucleus+powered by UpTone Audio JS-2 LPS
    Lumin X-1 Network Music Player
    Sound Lab Ultimate-545PX Speakers
    Shunyata Hydra 8, Typhon QR
    Various Shunyata Alpha & Sigma PC's throughout
    Stillpoints under everything. Multiple room acoustic panels.

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    Re: Lumin + Roon

    In Lumin app, enable Roon Ready for Lumin X1. If you don't need AirPlay for other purposes, disable "Lumin Streaming".

    In Roon Settings -> Audio, scroll down to find Lumin X1 in the Roon Ready section. Enable it, assign it a zone name. Disable the AirPlay zone. During playback, you can switch the zone to the newly named one.
    Peter Lie
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    Re: Lumin + Roon

    Quote Originally Posted by MtnHam View Post
    Additionally, I have read some user comments that the SQ when using Roon is inferior to that when using Tidal via the Lumin alone. Is this true?
    I never noticed lower sound quality using Roon
    On the contrary, to me, using Roon delivers better SQ

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    Re: Lumin + Roon

    I bet you are one of a very few that hear better sound with Roon.
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    Lumin + Roon

    Quote Originally Posted by Projectman View Post
    I bet you are one of a very few that hear better sound with Roon.
    As compared to what? (Disclaimer: I am a Roon user but do want to know other’s opinions as to what sounds better).

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    Re: Lumin + Roon

    Maybe I am one of the few but here is my experience with my Lumin U1 Mini

    I tried some comparisons with my MDR Z1R + TA H1ES headphones and amplifier with ´Source Direct’ music ie non altered audio (no DSP, no upsampling) => my verdict is that there is no identifiable difference on my side

    I tried with DSD upsampling => clear advantage for Roon
    Also my Lumin can resample up to DSD128 while it can play DSD256. And Roon of course upsamples to DSD256 so that my Lumin plays it

    Lastly, Roon enables some very interesting DSP features like Crossfeed, volume headroom maangement and some parametric EQ options very useful for my headphones => there is no possible comparison as these features are not possible within Lumin but my verdict is that it greatly improves the sound of the previous step already identified as better on my side

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    Re: Lumin + Roon

    And there is also something related to the design of the screen display of the Lumin

    I really dislike the fact that music played within Lumin shows necessarily the track number played and the total tracks of the queue. This is to my point of view not a good design because display becomes full of things and not as minimalist as in my taste. Especially when playlists are played. What is the purpose of showing something like "69/286" in a display already tiny? I asked Peter if I can interact with screen display to decide to not show the track numbers but I was told it is impossible

    When music is played with Roon there is no such track numbers display ie only track name, track artist and technical information which is as minimalist as I like it. And there is little more space to show longer track names/artists. I really hope this will not change. If this changes in the future then I hope the user will have the freedom to display/not display track numbers

    But again this is something very personal

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