Thread: Lumin Remote Control
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October 16, 2020, 03:18 PM #1
Lumin Remote Control
So cool!!!
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October 16, 2020, 03:34 PM #2
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I don't own a Lumin, but that's beautiful.
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October 16, 2020, 03:39 PM #3
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When will it be available? Which Lumin devices are supported? How much does it cost? Is it Roon compatible?
Gary
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October 16, 2020, 03:57 PM #4
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This is HUGE!
No more fiddling with volume via iPad. Can't wait.Roon NUC, Lumin X1 & L1, Ayre KX-5 Twenty, Ayre VX-R Twenty, Sonus Faber Olympica III, RAAL SR1a & HSA-1b
Audience Au24-SX interconnects & Zenwave SSR-11 speaker cables, Sablon Gran Corona & Zenwave PSR-11 power cords. Shunyata Everest 8000.
Adona Zero GXT, SRA, Symposium, & Stillpoints isolation, RPG, ASC, & Real Traps room treatment
Bob
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October 16, 2020, 04:06 PM #5
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Thanks Lumin.: yahoo1:
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October 16, 2020, 10:45 PM #6
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As soon as we finalize the packaging, distribution schemes and logistics. We already have the first batch of actual hardware ready.
All past and present models of Lumin network players and transports are supported.
Price is subject to change, tentatively USD2xx.
Roon compatible.
The remote control package comes with a USB IR receiver in the shape of a half sphere, for those who wonder how existing Lumin models can be operated. For Lumin X1 and T2, since there is only one USB port, if you plug in the USB IR receiver, you do not have another port for USB storage or USB DAC output. For the M1, if you already use one USB port for the RCA input adapter, using the other USB port for the USB IR receiver would meaning leaving no USB port for USB storage. There should be some USB hub that could workaround this limitation, but I cannot guarantee that because different hubs do behave differently.
Made in Austria.Peter Lie
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October 16, 2020, 11:20 PM #7
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What can the remote do with the X1 that the iPhone can’t do?
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October 16, 2020, 11:28 PM #8
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Bud
If your not using the Leedh volume control system it won't do anything for you of interest I don't imagine.Main - JVC QL-Y7/Denon DL-301 Mk II, Gold Note PH-10, Jays CDT3 Mk3 , Auralic Aries G2.2, Holo May KTE, Supratek Cabernet, Kinki Studio EX-B7 monoblocks, Verity Audio Otello, (2) Rythmik F12SE, Audio Envy IC, SC & PC's, Triode Wire Lab PC's, Inakustik USB and I2S, (2) Puritan Audio Labs PSM-156 with Groundmaster City, Timbernation rack
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October 16, 2020, 11:33 PM #9
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Okay. Thanks. I have zero interest in Leedh.
Bud
Lumin X1 file player, Westminster Labs interconnect cable
Sony XA-5400ES SACD
Pass XP-22 pre, X600.5 amps
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Mapleshade Samson four shelf maple rack, Micropoint brass footers
Three 20 amp circuits.
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October 17, 2020, 12:01 AM #10
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The remote has buttons for volume up / down / mute / play / pause / next / previous / shuffle / repeat / standby. For using these remote functions, you don’t need to pick up the iPad.
Anything other than these (e.g. playlist adjustment) will still require the iPad.Peter Lie
LUMIN Firmware Lead
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October 17, 2020, 03:19 AM #11
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Thank you Peter and everyone at Lumin. This is exactly what I need for the Lumin M1 in my second system.
Gary
Main: Lumin A1, Accuphase E-650, Tannoy Canterbury GR, Shunyata, Audience
Secondary: Lumin M1, Linton Heritage, Shunyata, Audience
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October 17, 2020, 07:34 AM #12
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Admirable that Lumin listened to customers in AS and acted to fill a need. Wished more companies did that. Well done Peter and the Lumin team.
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October 17, 2020, 03:25 PM #13
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This is great! Will the IR receiver be sold separately, or will any USB IR receiver work? For people who want to use their universal remotes or control systems.
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October 17, 2020, 10:27 PM #14
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The remote and the USB IR receiver are sold as a single package, not separately. Random USB IR receivers are unlikely to work.
Peter Lie
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October 17, 2020, 11:21 PM #15
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Hi BlueFox I am curious why you have no interest in Leed h. Have you compared it against your preamp? What preamp are you using? Does music sound better through the preamp?
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October 17, 2020, 11:25 PM #16
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BlueFox, I just saw you have a passXP 22 Pre
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October 18, 2020, 09:57 AM #17
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Peter - Are there any plans to show the volume level on the display?
Gary
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October 18, 2020, 11:10 AM #18
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Yes, when volume adjustment is made via remote control, the front panel will show it.
Peter Lie
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October 19, 2020, 03:26 PM #19
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200 USD for a Lumin remote seems to be a high price for a product already bought at >2000USD
you should give these remotes as gifts for Lumin owners!
first thing I was worried about when I bought a Lumin is the absence of remote but I figured it out before buying:
on my side I did not wait for this
I became a geek and I installed a program on my NAS making me use my Logitech Harmony control Roon and then of course Lumin playing Roon. And of course as a bonus, I have only one remote to rule them all (my Rooning Lumin, my Amp, my lights, my DAC, my TV, my future PS5 and everything). And I can set up all the buttons exactly as I wish, for instance, I have a button dedicated to directly play Tidal's "Grown Jazz" playlist on my Lumin, another button to launch "La Sélection Jazz de Qobuz" and etc..
So please think, you need some efforts on IT but Remote control can be more enjoyable at a less expensive price (of course if you already have the existing right setup)
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October 19, 2020, 03:59 PM #20
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$200 seems VERY reasonable to me, especially for such a beautiful, elegant looking remote.
Our MBL remote is $750 and it looks like this:
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October 19, 2020, 04:19 PM #21
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I think it’s great that Lumin listened to their customers and moved quickly to provide what looks to be a really elegant remote. A couple hundred dollars for this remote seems very reasonable.
Moving forward, Lumin should communicate if they will be including the remote with the players or if it will remain an accessory._______________
Mike
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October 19, 2020, 04:22 PM #22
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Amplification: MBL 6010D, MBL 9008A Monos
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October 19, 2020, 04:23 PM #23
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I don’t know MBL but I know no fool ready to buy this for 750usd
My harmony remote for 150usd (and again it controls everything: My Rooning Lumin, my amp, my dac, my tv, my lights, my ps4, just one remote for everything) looks very nice for a remote. Just look into internet for Harmony Smart Hub but i am sure you know what I am talking about
And my point here is that it is shocking that a Lumin device costing 2k$, 5k$ or even 13k$ does not have a remote control already included for its price. So in order to correct an initial error (a device like this without remote) they should give it for free
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October 19, 2020, 04:31 PM #24
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That’s a crazy idea. Have you seen the incredible support Lumin gives for free? Do you think Peter does this because he’s bored? Lumin makes Peter available to all of us FOR FREE.
When you bought the Lumin, it didn’t have a remote and you knew that. The fact they are adding a gorgeous remote now at ONLY $200 is an awesome move. I bet you, seriously, they aren’t making much on that remote - if anything.
Think of all the other stuff Lumin has done for FREE. They covered the whole nut of Roon certification and MQA certification.
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October 19, 2020, 04:34 PM #25
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Foolish consumer
Peter is not for free. Peter is here to sell Lumins
Bye
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October 19, 2020, 04:35 PM #26
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And naive
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October 19, 2020, 04:37 PM #27
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October 19, 2020, 04:38 PM #28
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Looooool this is funny
But I agree Peter contributes for the price of the Lumin. I am very happy about his support. No defect
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October 19, 2020, 04:41 PM #29
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And you will see future Lumins will certainly include this remote in their price because of competition
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October 19, 2020, 04:47 PM #30
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At a different price point if that is the case. Got to give your type something else to complain about as if you haven't found enough up to this point.
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October 19, 2020, 04:49 PM #31
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Incredible how some people will spend thousands in stereo components and cables but yet complain about a $200 remote.
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October 19, 2020, 05:12 PM #32
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I agree with you Mike. Even though I do not currently own any Lumin products I read most of the post in the Lumin threads and often pick up valuable suggestions from Peter and insight into digital audio. I do not remember Peter ever selling Lumin or denigrating competitive products.
I think the Lumin remote at $2xx is very reasonable.Jim
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October 19, 2020, 07:59 PM #33
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Thinking about how much I would use the remote. Probably A LOT if running the Lumin directly to the amps. Maybe a bit less so with the preamp, whose remote handles volume up/down and mute.
But the new Lumin remote's ability to pause (instead of mute) when the phone rings is huge for me, and will surely be the feature that gets me off the fence and placing that order.
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October 19, 2020, 09:27 PM #34
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We are really not making money on this, after factoring in the various costs and shipping. (If I were not in this business, I'd not believe this either, but that is the truth.) The Made-in-Austria remote and its associated receiver are unbelievably expensive for a remote. I was shocked when I heard the cost.
In the firmware we made a choice as to whether to protect our own hardware accessories, or to make it easier for someone else to make a compatible one if they really want to. We chose the latter because this is meant to fill a functional gap rather than to make money, even though I do not encourage the use of third party accessories. That being said, we reserve the right to change this without notice.Peter Lie
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October 19, 2020, 09:58 PM #35
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I like Ritmo's idea of a video for the remote. I believe the assumption that the remote is only Leedh controlled is not yet confirmed by Peter. I agree with JCS123 that the value and usage is very high if running direct to amps rather than with a preamp, which would have its own volume and mute controls, but other functions on the remote still have merit, even with preamp. I highly applaud Peter and Lumin for very speedily finding a solution to the ask made here for a remote. While I have gotten used to using iPhone or iPad with my X1, I like physical remotes. I would like to know more on this remote.
I, as so many here, very much value Peter's contributions.
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October 19, 2020, 10:43 PM #36
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The remote will work regardless of whether digital volume (Leedh or original) in Lumin is used.
Peter Lie
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October 19, 2020, 11:23 PM #37
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Skipping Leedh, what can the remote do that the iPhone can't do?
Bud
Lumin X1 file player, Westminster Labs interconnect cable
Sony XA-5400ES SACD
Pass XP-22 pre, X600.5 amps
Magico S5 MKII Mcast Rose speakers, SPOD spikes
Shunyata Triton v3/Typhon QR for source, Denali 2000 (2) for amps
Shunyata Sigma XLR analog ICs, Sigma speaker cables
Shunyata Sigma HC (2), Sigma Analog, Sigma Digital, Z Anaconda (3) power cables
Mapleshade Samson four shelf maple rack, Micropoint brass footers
Three 20 amp circuits.
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October 19, 2020, 11:27 PM #38
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October 20, 2020, 12:05 AM #39
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Thanks.
Bud
Lumin X1 file player, Westminster Labs interconnect cable
Sony XA-5400ES SACD
Pass XP-22 pre, X600.5 amps
Magico S5 MKII Mcast Rose speakers, SPOD spikes
Shunyata Triton v3/Typhon QR for source, Denali 2000 (2) for amps
Shunyata Sigma XLR analog ICs, Sigma speaker cables
Shunyata Sigma HC (2), Sigma Analog, Sigma Digital, Z Anaconda (3) power cables
Mapleshade Samson four shelf maple rack, Micropoint brass footers
Three 20 amp circuits.
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October 20, 2020, 06:56 AM #40
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I thought as much Peter. $200 is very fair, I frankly thought it would be at least $500. Your ordering much smaller quantities than say Sony or Logitech, so your costs are higher. The remote looks gorgeous. Can’t wait to see it in person. Well done!
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October 20, 2020, 09:22 AM #41
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Amplification: MBL 6010D, MBL 9008A Monos
Analog: Kuzma R, Kuzma 4Point (11”), MSL Ultra Eminent EX
Phono Pre: Pass XP-27
Digital: Esoteric N01XD Esoteric K05
Speakers: MBL 101E MKII
Subwoofers: REL Carbon Specials
Conditioner: Shunyata Triton 3
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October 20, 2020, 09:52 AM #42
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I am curious how many people using a preamp have tried Leed h? If you tried it, what were your thoughts and did you notice any changes in the sound quality? On some music tracks, I thought Leed h was slightly clearer. On others, hard to tell. I am using a Classe Sigma SSP in digital bypass mode. Digital processing is turned off so I am getting the full analog signal.
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October 20, 2020, 02:30 PM #43
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I have a T2 connected to a C900 Luxman preamp
Didn’t make an A/B comparison but my impression is that the last firmware with the Leedh control is a little more “lean”
With the previous version the bass was more present at least in my system and the highs more clear...
Maybe is just my impression in my system
I feel the sound is more “musical”(?) or less analytical...
Either way, very happy with the resultsAnalogue source: Kuzma R, 4 Point 11’, ZYX Ultimate Omega GH
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October 20, 2020, 03:00 PM #44
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Thanks for the reply. Your last sentence confused me slightly. Are you saying that when using Leedh, it gives you a more lean and analytic sound, and when using the preamp (not using Leedh volume control) you have more bass, clearer highs and is more musical?
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October 21, 2020, 01:11 AM #45
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Re: Lumin Remote Control
Sorry' I was not clear enough
The T2 is connected to the C900 and my impressions are about the new firmware (that includes the Leedh's function)
and not the Leedh volume control.
My settings are "volume fixed"
In my system, I think that with the new firmware Lumin took the sound a little less "sparkling"
I feel the sound more round and withe less bottom extension
As you wrote, I do feel a better sound with the previous firmware (even always the T2 was connected to the preamp)
I couldn't compared it A/B, but after more than a year this was the first time I noticed a sound change with a new firmware
Maybe is only my impression in my system...
I hope to be more clear now (my apologies, English is not my mother tongue)
Maybe Peter or other users can write about thisAnalogue source: Kuzma R, 4 Point 11’, ZYX Ultimate Omega GH
Digital source: Lumin T2, NUC8 i5, Roon Rock, network connected.
Amplification:Zesto Andros 1.2, Luxman C-900u, Karan KAS 400.
Speakers: Magico S3 MKII
Cables: interconect: Neotech RCA NEI 3001 (phono to preamp) all other Nordost Heimdall II XLR speakers: Nordost Heimdall II
Power: ISOL 8 Minisub Wave, main Neotech NEP 3001, all other DH labs.
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October 21, 2020, 03:35 AM #46
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October 21, 2020, 10:34 AM #47
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Re: Lumin Remote Control
Well said. Component matching is important.
I've found the Leedh volume control has added a better "flow" to the music and an overall sonic improvement.
I still use a preamp to "color" the sound to my liking and have the volume set at unity gain.
As for the new remote, I don't know if I would really use it as I am not dissatisfied with using my I-Pad as a controller.
As I stream only, my I-Pad is always present when listening. The only issue with this arrangement is the Leedh volume slide and up/down
functions are rather small and slightly quirky. My 2 centsMy System
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Lampizator BALTIC4
Cary SLP-05
Pass XA30.5 or
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Reference 3A Reflector's
Pr SVS SB3000 Subs
Cables & Tubes "subject to change without notification".
Complete system on battery power/solar
Core Audio Design Rack
DIY bass traps and custom curved diffusors.
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October 22, 2020, 02:08 PM #48
Re: Lumin Remote Control
wklie,
So, I have a 8TB Hard Drive attached to my Lumin X1 via the usb port. Are you saying that I can no longer use my Hard Drive if I use the Remote?
ozzy
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October 22, 2020, 09:39 PM #49
Re: Lumin Remote Control
The best way is to plug the HDD to a computer or NAS running free MinimServer.
If you really don't want to do that, you may try using a USB hub.Peter Lie
LUMIN Firmware Lead
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October 22, 2020, 10:10 PM #50
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Re: Lumin Remote Control
Uhh, $2xx?
Where do I send the check? Take my money.
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