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October 29, 2023, 12:18 AM #1
Lumin, the playlist app button presents constant fear
you know the one. (ios phone app) Lose entire playlist at one tiny/squeezed in UI playlist app button mis-press, with no help/no warning! No courtesy warning ie "are you sure"! No looking back at mis-press Fatal error delete's entire playlist! Horrible! FIX IT. C'mon. Bullcrackers. Way overdue.
I almost did it again but being massively >fearful< of touching app I did caught myself.
Don't ask me what I'm talking about either, it's blitheringly obvious, once you've done it. AND THEY KNOW!
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with those "--" crossed out. Absolute the worst botton ever - NO WARNING!!!!Digital: LUMIN Music D2, Marantz SA-KI Ruby SACD player DAC| Berkeley Alpha DAC Series 3, Grimm Audio UC1
TT: MoFi Studiodeck +Mastertracker Phono: Parasound JC3+, QHW The Vinyl
Line: Parasound JC2BP, Dennis Had L-2030 Tube
Int: PM-Ki Ruby Monoblocks: Parasound JC1+, Manley Mahi-Mahi EL84, Dayens Ampino (A/B)
Amps: Parasound JC5, Pass Labs XA-25, First Watt J2, F7, Dennis Had Inspire tube roller
Speakers: Omega Loudspeakers assort: DynaTen (Dynaco Seas A26), single driver and 1.5 way boxes; Evolution Acoustics MicroOne 5.1; MAGNAT 15" Transpuls 3-ways
Wire: A: Acoustic Zen all through. B: Supra DIY all through.
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October 29, 2023, 07:57 AM #2
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Re: Lumin, the playlist app button presents constant fear
You need to configure the Lumïn app to ask a confirmation, and there is a comprehensive manual on line too
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October 29, 2023, 06:01 PM #3
Re: Lumin, the playlist app button presents constant fear
stefano-mbp, thank you for posting that. But that option won't affect the button I'm talking about. I already have that setup as in your red arrow.
I just tested two iphones, 12 Mini and 8 Plus. Setup per red arrow. ios 17.1. Lumin 9.0.2
If you add to playlist, the Play and replace will wipe the playlist without warning (and add to top of new playlist - the button works) but no safety net confirmation warning. Confirm when Clear Playlist does not work there.
Manual:
"Play and replace: Replaces the whole of the Playlist with the selection, and starts playing" Confirm when Clear Playlist does not work in this location - happy to admit user error but I've tested as mentioned.Digital: LUMIN Music D2, Marantz SA-KI Ruby SACD player DAC| Berkeley Alpha DAC Series 3, Grimm Audio UC1
TT: MoFi Studiodeck +Mastertracker Phono: Parasound JC3+, QHW The Vinyl
Line: Parasound JC2BP, Dennis Had L-2030 Tube
Int: PM-Ki Ruby Monoblocks: Parasound JC1+, Manley Mahi-Mahi EL84, Dayens Ampino (A/B)
Amps: Parasound JC5, Pass Labs XA-25, First Watt J2, F7, Dennis Had Inspire tube roller
Speakers: Omega Loudspeakers assort: DynaTen (Dynaco Seas A26), single driver and 1.5 way boxes; Evolution Acoustics MicroOne 5.1; MAGNAT 15" Transpuls 3-ways
Wire: A: Acoustic Zen all through. B: Supra DIY all through.
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October 30, 2023, 02:12 AM #4
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Re: Lumin, the playlist app button presents constant fear
There is a “Play queue” and “Playlists”, in the manual you can read how to manage the Play queue and Playlists
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October 30, 2023, 02:23 AM #5
Re: Lumin, the playlist app button presents constant fear
I can but I won't. Lumin should print a downloadable manual. They refuse to. Did you test my previsous button problem?
It's very easy - make a 1600 long playist, or, 1 song playlist. Check that red arrow you posted. Now go to add song to playlist and click that little fumbling fatal button. Have fun! Now that you've had fun loosing.. do that over the course of a year loosing your playlist..without a safety net. Have fun!
You did not read my first response earlier (okay it was long winded) Start over.Digital: LUMIN Music D2, Marantz SA-KI Ruby SACD player DAC| Berkeley Alpha DAC Series 3, Grimm Audio UC1
TT: MoFi Studiodeck +Mastertracker Phono: Parasound JC3+, QHW The Vinyl
Line: Parasound JC2BP, Dennis Had L-2030 Tube
Int: PM-Ki Ruby Monoblocks: Parasound JC1+, Manley Mahi-Mahi EL84, Dayens Ampino (A/B)
Amps: Parasound JC5, Pass Labs XA-25, First Watt J2, F7, Dennis Had Inspire tube roller
Speakers: Omega Loudspeakers assort: DynaTen (Dynaco Seas A26), single driver and 1.5 way boxes; Evolution Acoustics MicroOne 5.1; MAGNAT 15" Transpuls 3-ways
Wire: A: Acoustic Zen all through. B: Supra DIY all through.
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October 30, 2023, 02:26 AM #6
Re: Lumin, the playlist app button presents constant fear
The fact that wklie liked your post is...insane. (again, glad to admit user error) but I call it as I see it. And it dun broke. do correct me, but fuckoff, if you donl't test as indicated.
Digital: LUMIN Music D2, Marantz SA-KI Ruby SACD player DAC| Berkeley Alpha DAC Series 3, Grimm Audio UC1
TT: MoFi Studiodeck +Mastertracker Phono: Parasound JC3+, QHW The Vinyl
Line: Parasound JC2BP, Dennis Had L-2030 Tube
Int: PM-Ki Ruby Monoblocks: Parasound JC1+, Manley Mahi-Mahi EL84, Dayens Ampino (A/B)
Amps: Parasound JC5, Pass Labs XA-25, First Watt J2, F7, Dennis Had Inspire tube roller
Speakers: Omega Loudspeakers assort: DynaTen (Dynaco Seas A26), single driver and 1.5 way boxes; Evolution Acoustics MicroOne 5.1; MAGNAT 15" Transpuls 3-ways
Wire: A: Acoustic Zen all through. B: Supra DIY all through.
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October 30, 2023, 02:29 AM #7
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Re: Lumin, the playlist app button presents constant fear
To add one or more songs to a Playlist do as follow:
add the playlist to the play queue
add one or more songs to the play queue
save back the play queue in a playlist using the same name (ie overwrite existing playlist)
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October 30, 2023, 02:31 AM #8
Re: Lumin, the playlist app button presents constant fear
stefano-mbp. please stop.
Digital: LUMIN Music D2, Marantz SA-KI Ruby SACD player DAC| Berkeley Alpha DAC Series 3, Grimm Audio UC1
TT: MoFi Studiodeck +Mastertracker Phono: Parasound JC3+, QHW The Vinyl
Line: Parasound JC2BP, Dennis Had L-2030 Tube
Int: PM-Ki Ruby Monoblocks: Parasound JC1+, Manley Mahi-Mahi EL84, Dayens Ampino (A/B)
Amps: Parasound JC5, Pass Labs XA-25, First Watt J2, F7, Dennis Had Inspire tube roller
Speakers: Omega Loudspeakers assort: DynaTen (Dynaco Seas A26), single driver and 1.5 way boxes; Evolution Acoustics MicroOne 5.1; MAGNAT 15" Transpuls 3-ways
Wire: A: Acoustic Zen all through. B: Supra DIY all through.
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October 30, 2023, 02:41 AM #9
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Re: Lumin, the playlist app button presents constant fear
As you like … bye bye … but I think you’ll be alone …
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October 30, 2023, 02:53 AM #10
Re: Lumin, the playlist app button presents constant fear
you have not tested per my indication. Or let me know if I'm missing your advice (after you tested) ? Did you test mine, or was I not clear. Let me know. but test it.
Thanks for trying. I am pretty dang sure.
It is 12:00 AM here. Goodnight, stefano-mbp!
Try those buttonsDigital: LUMIN Music D2, Marantz SA-KI Ruby SACD player DAC| Berkeley Alpha DAC Series 3, Grimm Audio UC1
TT: MoFi Studiodeck +Mastertracker Phono: Parasound JC3+, QHW The Vinyl
Line: Parasound JC2BP, Dennis Had L-2030 Tube
Int: PM-Ki Ruby Monoblocks: Parasound JC1+, Manley Mahi-Mahi EL84, Dayens Ampino (A/B)
Amps: Parasound JC5, Pass Labs XA-25, First Watt J2, F7, Dennis Had Inspire tube roller
Speakers: Omega Loudspeakers assort: DynaTen (Dynaco Seas A26), single driver and 1.5 way boxes; Evolution Acoustics MicroOne 5.1; MAGNAT 15" Transpuls 3-ways
Wire: A: Acoustic Zen all through. B: Supra DIY all through.
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October 30, 2023, 09:00 AM #11
Re: Lumin, the playlist app button presents constant fear
Jim
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October 30, 2023, 01:25 PM #12
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Re: Lumin, the playlist app button presents constant fear
@XRS,
While I'm of an age that has been accustomed to printed manuals, I really have liked the web/download version--it is updated as new models, software updates, and features become available. Printed version could very easily become out of date quickly. There is always the option of one printing part or all, but I have not done so. It seems to me web/download manuals are increasingly common for not only audio but other unrelated devices and equipment.
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October 31, 2023, 06:20 AM #13
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Re: Lumin, the playlist app button presents constant fear
Hi XRS
The 'Play and Replace' should definitely prompt the user when the above setting is turned to 'on'.
The 'Play and Replace' button can appear in different places. Can you let us know which one doesn't provide a confirmation?
One is in the popup here - which can be launched from many places - In case it is useful to our engineers, could you say where you 'pressed and held' in order to generate the popup? (which streaming service and app area location).
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Another is in the browse window when 'double tap' is set and a track highlighted:
app-add-to-queue.png
Please note that while we offer help where possible on forums, the language used in some of your posts is counterproductive and doesn't encourage manufacturers' discussion contribution which many Audioshark users value.
Official support channels are listed here: LUMIN - Contact Us[Associated with LUMIN]
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October 31, 2023, 05:34 PM #14
Re: Lumin, the playlist app button presents constant fear
I tested here, do as follows to replicate XRS's issue.
In settings set "Confirm when Clear Playlist" to "On"
Add some albums manually into a new blank playlist. (It does not matter whether you save it or not)
Swipe back to the genre/artist/etc albumlist
Press and hold any album title, then choose [Play and replace button]
Result: playlist wiped/replaced without the Yes / No question.
Edit: when "Confirm when Clear Playlist" is "On"
[v] Delete button bottom of playlist --> this does ask to clear playlist Y/N
[x] Play and replace button from left top --> replaces and plays immediately without asking clear playlist Y/N
[x] Play and replace button when highlighting multiple files when Double Tap + Play Later in settings --> replaces and plays immediately without asking clear playlist Y/N
[x] Play and replace button when holding album title in tab Album / Artist / Genre / Year / Most Recent views > replaces and plays immediately without asking clear playlist Y/N
Tested latest app version, latest iOS, on iPhone.
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October 31, 2023, 06:20 PM #15
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Re: Lumin, the playlist app button presents constant fear
The behavior of rightmost button is clearly described in the user manual, no surprise at all …
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October 31, 2023, 06:25 PM #16
Re: Lumin, the playlist app button presents constant fear
Manual > App General Settings > Confirm when Clear Playlist" > When this is set to 'On', the [Delete button] or the [Play and replace button] won't clear the Playlist until a yes/no answer is given.
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November 2, 2023, 02:42 AM #17
Re: Lumin, the playlist app button presents constant fear
Thanks for the report and testing. This will be improved.
Peter Lie
LUMIN Firmware Lead
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November 6, 2023, 10:01 PM #18
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November 7, 2023, 02:59 AM #19
Re: Lumin, the playlist app button presents constant fear
Thanks for the quick turnaround. All cases now work as expected.
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November 7, 2023, 03:17 AM #20
Re: Lumin, the playlist app button presents constant fear
Golden Master Award Level Achieved.
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Last edited by XRS; November 7, 2023 at 03:27 AM. Reason: 9.0.3
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November 7, 2023, 03:42 AM #21
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November 8, 2023, 12:30 AM #22
Re: Lumin, the playlist app button presents constant fear
testing.
nope 9.0.3 stutter all day. next. ugh.
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November 8, 2023, 01:26 AM #23
Re: Lumin, the playlist app button presents constant fear
Out. I have to be done with this brand. At ease folks. What the heck streamer now I have no clue but no more. 5 years, I did it.
Good luck all or good luck to me. lol, ugh. PITA* Its a big deal because my ears are toooned, and I'm welded to the brand (was). Peter Lie is boss, Golden Master. Bye Peter
seeya
My DACs are set; Berkeley, Bricasti, GRiMM, Marantz, etc. I have Dacs. The streamer NO MQA! NO ROON! is totally, for me, a huge problem.
Sorry for the interruption. Fare well Lumin! Maybe down the line...Lumin always in my heart!
2024, here we go.
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November 18, 2023, 02:28 PM #24
Re: Lumin, the playlist app button presents constant fear
Man, I concur, I have lost many a playlist.
Simply by picking individual songs from playlists and then mistakenly push save playlist. Bam! original playlist all gone and replaced with the few songs that were selected and perhaps adding a few more to save.
Hard to totally explain, but it is too easy to override or delete a playlist and then the original playlist is gone forever!
There should be someway of resurrecting the original playlist.
ozzy
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November 19, 2023, 08:36 AM #25
Re: Lumin, the playlist app button presents constant fear
If you are running the latest version 9.0.4 of Lumin app, and have the "Confirm when Clear Playlist" setting enabled (by default), it should prompt you before replacing the playlist.
Peter Lie
LUMIN Firmware Lead
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November 24, 2023, 02:38 PM #26
Re: Lumin, the playlist app button presents constant fear
I'm satisfied with the app. And indeed in 904 version the playlist asks before clearing itself.
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November 28, 2023, 02:06 AM #27
Re: Lumin, the playlist app button presents constant fear
Me too, no more tears (haha)
Stay tuned, I have a shipment incoming with Lumin Music brand on it.
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