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    Re: Lumin P-1 arrives tomorrow

    What else was in the firmware? My X1 got updated to 14.6.

    Quote Originally Posted by wklie View Post
    A new firmware is released for Lumin P1 - it is now possible to change to digital or analog input (using the Lumin IR remote) even if the network cable is disconnected (with "Network Error" displayed if not in input mode).
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    Re: Lumin P-1 arrives tomorrow

    Lumin Firmware 14.6

    In addition to the P1-specific enhancement above, default FLAC radio stations are updated, along with the latest Spotify Connect SDK.
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    Re: Lumin P-1 arrives tomorrow

    I found the review from Stereophile not very flattering. It appears that there is a disconnect in performance judgment between a professional reviewer and actual users? Most other input I have read is very positive!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Remi View Post
    I found the review from Stereophile not very flattering. It appears that there is a disconnect in performance judgment between a professional reviewer and actual users? Most other input I have read is very positive!
    Well, we love our P1. It sounds superb with MSB amps, Hegel, Luxman, Boulder, etc., everything we’ve tried. I love the look of it despite what others say. It doesn’t get lost in the rack, it stands out beautifully and bold. The sound is smooth and musical. Love it.


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    Lumin P-1 arrives tomorrow

    I have a question. How does HDMI work on P1? AppleTV or other devices can connect to P1 with HDMI and P1’s HDMI OUT goes to TV? Basically acting as a pre-pro for 2 front channels.

    Actually 2 questions. Does it come in black?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Remi View Post
    I found the review from Stereophile not very flattering. It appears that there is a disconnect in performance judgment between a professional reviewer and actual users? Most other input I have read is very positive!
    Yes, I found it difficult to pull quotes from for our review page, but then they did award it the highest Class A in their Recommended Components list in the same issue, pointing to the review as evidence.
    Having read a few reviews from John Atkinson, I think that's just his style to be honest.
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    Re: Lumin P-1 arrives tomorrow

    I missed that Class A rating! Thanks. I'm in the market for a new DAC and my head is spinning. May post a thread to get some help!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Low325 View Post
    Exactly the opposite.
    Tried two different SFP transceivers; Finistar and gtek both with Corning glass. One day decided to try Ethernet and just noticed more presence, 3D, sparkle and detail and just overall more ease to the system. Each time I switch to fiber the system sounds choked now with just Ethernet. Shrug.

    It was mentioned that adding a ether regen might help but it’s just another power cord, power socket and possibly another LPS that I dont have at the moment. I love tweaks but I do like less in the chain.

    I’ll revisit again and ping more folks offline and not derail this thread.
    I find it really interesting as my experience is very different , BUT i use Cisco SFP Tranceivers can that be why ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by kzhtoo View Post
    I have a question. How does HDMI work on P1? AppleTV or other devices can connect to P1 with HDMI and P1’s HDMI OUT goes to TV? Basically acting as a pre-pro for 2 front channels.

    Actually 2 questions. Does it come in black?
    Yes, my review sample was black Lumin P-1 arrives tomorrowLumin P-1 arrives tomorrow


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    Quote Originally Posted by Remi View Post
    I found the review from Stereophile not very flattering. It appears that there is a disconnect in performance judgment between a professional reviewer and actual users? Most other input I have read is very positive!
    I found that the P1 to be a very good Renderer (when used without the internal DAC) and a extremely good Player (with internal DAC)…. But I was less impressed with the digital volume control Leedh. Don’t get me wrong: it is really good in absolute terms and excellent value for money but just not at the same level as a good analog preamp. So any comparison will depend on the preamp or digital volume control used.

    But I found the same with the volume control of my TAD D1000 MKII or of my previous DCS combo, so my comment is not Lumin specific.


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    Quote Originally Posted by kzhtoo View Post
    I have a question. How does HDMI work on P1? AppleTV or other devices can connect to P1 with HDMI and P1’s HDMI OUT goes to TV? Basically acting as a pre-pro for 2 front channels.

    Actually 2 questions. Does it come in black?
    Sorry, missed this.

    If you want to see photos of the black model, there are some good ones in these 3 reviews:
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    Lumin P1: Test Netzwerkplayer, DAC & Vorstufe | fairaudio
    LUMIN P1 | Audiotechnique

    Re: HDMI. Yes exactly. It acts as a source switcher, routing audio to your amplifier and video to your TV.
    Because it supports HDMI ARC, audio from your TV also gets routed to your amplifier.
    All of this is limited to Stereo 2.0
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    Quote Originally Posted by kzhtoo View Post
    I have a question. How does HDMI work on P1? AppleTV or other devices can connect to P1 with HDMI and P1’s HDMI OUT goes to TV? Basically acting as a pre-pro for 2 front channels.
    If the Apple TV is set to output Stereo PCM, then you can have P1 analog output for the Apple TV signal. Since the same signal is also passed to the TV, you may want to mute the TV in this case.

    Alternatively, if the Apple TV outputs surround, then P1 can (only) function as a HDMI switch to passthrough the surround signal to the TV, without doing analog output via P1 internal DAC.
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    Re: Lumin P-1 arrives tomorrow

    Hello everyone, new member here that is thinking about purchasing a P1.
    My system is Khama DB 7’s driven by a Nagra integrated.
    My source is currently an Ifi Zen stream into a Musical Fidelity MX Dac, both streamer and Dac have an S-booster power supply.
    I previously owned Naim gear,Cary audio gear among others.
    I have owned quite a few Dynaudio speakers,Sopra 1’s, Paradigm back in the day.
    I was using a Naim Nd5xs2 into a Chord Mscaler/TT2 as my source last year,but traded that all in to fund the DB7’s.
    Now I am ready to upgrade the source again, so I am thinking a P1 ticks all the boxes. Another possibility I was thinking about is an Innous Zenith into a stand alone Dac.
    Currently I am home demoing a Saturn 201 Dac fed by my Ifi Zen stream.
    Hopefully I can make my mind up which direction to go with the help of forum members here.
    I have not heard the P1 yet, but a dealer near Toronto has one that I can demo/purchase. The problem is, that is a 4 hour drive one way.
    Any advice would be very much appreciated,
    or just info on the P1 in general.

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    Re: Lumin P-1 arrives tomorrow

    If you dont need multiple inputs consider the X1.
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    Re: Lumin P-1 arrives tomorrow

    I would actually use the inputs for my Xbox, blue ray player, and media player I have.
    At one time I had a full 7.2 home theatre, when I was in a house,but I dismantled all that when I moved to my current apartment building.
    The room is 13.5 feet wide x15.5 feet deep, and I can no longer crank up the volume.
    Looking for a great sounding simple system without stacks of boxes and wires.
    Besides, the P1 is the limit of my budget.
    The dealer who has it actually recommended I wait for the upcoming T3 because I already have a pre amp in the Nagra.

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    Take the sweetspot Lumin P1


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    Quote Originally Posted by No Quarter View Post
    I would actually use the inputs for my Xbox, blue ray player, and media player I have.
    At one time I had a full 7.2 home theatre, when I was in a house,but I dismantled all that when I moved to my current apartment building.
    The room is 13.5 feet wide x15.5 feet deep, and I can no longer crank up the volume.
    Looking for a great sounding simple system without stacks of boxes and wires.
    Besides, the P1 is the limit of my budget.
    The dealer who has it actually recommended I wait for the upcoming T3 because I already have a pre amp in the Nagra.
    Sent you a PM.

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    Hi guys, I installed my new Lumin P1 yesterday, fresh out of the box it sounds very good.
    I was up and running within 20 minutes. Now I need to figure out what all the little icons in the App do, find optimal settings etc.
    Is there a more detailed manual available online somewhere?
    Right now I have the volume at 100% on the Lumin, and have been controlling the volume with my Nagra integrated. Does this sound like the best way? I think I have Leedh processing enabled, but I am not sure about anything yet, need to dig in deeper to this App.
    I have radio paradise playing to get run time on it, but I notice even Tidal sounds better than the radio so far. I also inserted a thumb drive in the back of the P1 with some music, and was able to play that.
    I have Roon Core set up on my Laptop too, but have not tried that yet.
    So far, I love this thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by No Quarter View Post
    Hi guys, I installed my new Lumin P1 yesterday, fresh out of the box it sounds very good.
    I was up and running within 20 minutes. Now I need to figure out what all the little icons in the App do, find optimal settings etc.
    Is there a more detailed manual available online somewhere?
    Right now I have the volume at 100% on the Lumin, and have been controlling the volume with my Nagra integrated. Does this sound like the best way? I think I have Leedh processing enabled, but I am not sure about anything yet, need to dig in deeper to this App.
    I have radio paradise playing to get run time on it, but I notice even Tidal sounds better than the radio so far. I also inserted a thumb drive in the back of the P1 with some music, and was able to play that.
    I have Roon Core set up on my Laptop too, but have not tried that yet.
    So far, I love this thing.
    Congrats on the P1. Great sounding unit. Very flexible too.

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    Re: Lumin P-1 arrives tomorrow

    Congratulations with your new P1 , i am sure you will be very happy with it
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    Thanks guys, I will take a look at that link to the manual Mike, much appreciated.

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    I read through the online manual that Mike provided the link to.
    Lots of info there, so I think I have all the settings correct. I noticed today that an update was available (15), so I hit ok and it downloaded I think.
    So I did a little experimenting today, I managed to get Tidal connect to work.
    Also I was able to set the P1 as my endpoint in Roon ( on my laptop),opened the Roon App and everything is working. I was expecting a drop in sound quality using Roon, but did not notice one.
    This is not even the exclusive mode that was just announced.
    I leave the P1 playing 24/7, trying to get a few hundred hours on it before any critical listening.
    So far it is living up to the Hype for sure.

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    Re: Lumin P-1 arrives tomorrow

    I now have close to 250 hours on my P1. I decided to upgrade my Tidal account to Hifi Plus to give MQA a try. At work right now but will have a listen tomorrow to see if I hear an upgrade 🤷*♂️
    Of all the Lumin threads on here, I did not find any discussion about MQA on the P1. Is it a waste of time/money?
    I think I have MQA enabled in settings, does it show up somewhere on the screen or in the App if it is actually doing the full unfold?
    Sorry for all the newbie questions, but I have never owned an MQA capable device. I also wonder if it would be better to use Tidal connect,Roon, or the Lumin App to get the best MQA sound?

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    Imo use the Lumin app for best sound. If the P1 options menu is like the X1 you should have a "MQA Mode" setting, I think set it to Analog Out (but I'm not 100% sure, it's been a while since I had Tidal).

    I think there is little doubt you will hear something different/probably better. Anyway, trust your own ears.
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    Thanks for the quick reply jmusica. That MQA mode setting sounds familiar, I will check that it is set to Analog out.
    I will trust my ears, despite all the MQA bashing I read about, it must be an option for a reason, I would think.
    I still want to try Amp direct, optical input and MQA…not even tried any HDMI inputs/outputs yet either.
    So many options with this P1.

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    You may either use Lumin app or Tidal app (Tidal Connect), depending on which user interface you like more.

    If you use Tidal app, make sure you set the Quality - Streaming - WiFi to Master.

    See if you can find an album that exists both in Master and non-Master versions. Let me know which sounds better to you.

    On the Lumin front panel, if you see MQA and if you're listening to Lumin analog output (instead of SPDIF or USB output), you're getting MQA Full Decoding.
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    Re: Lumin P-1 arrives tomorrow

    Quote Originally Posted by No Quarter View Post
    Sorry for all the newbie questions, but I have never owned an MQA capable device. I also wonder if it would be better to use Tidal connect,Roon, or the Lumin App to get the best MQA sound?
    In my opinion the LUMIN app is superior to Roon and whist MQA is ‘different’, it sounds to my ear like someone has left the loudness switch on so, after using it for a while, I stopped using it.
    Also, there used to be a choice of Hi Res or MQA but now many recordings only have MQA available so it’s a non too subtle conversion system over to MQA - hence I use Qobuz now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wklie View Post
    You may either use Lumin app or Tidal app (Tidal Connect), depending on which user interface you like more.

    If you use Tidal app, make sure you set the Quality - Streaming - WiFi to Master.

    See if you can find an album that exists both in Master and non-Master versions. Let me know which sounds better to you.

    On the Lumin front panel, if you see MQA and if you're listening to Lumin analog output (instead of SPDIF or USB output), you're getting MQA Full Decoding.
    Thanks for the reply Peter, I am home now and have been listening to MQA for a couple of hours now.
    First impression is quite good, it feels more like I am in the room with the artist.
    I see the little MQA on the front panel and also see the squiggly line in the App next to the song I am playing.
    Also at the top left of the page in the App, next to the picture of the Album cover, I noticed higher KHz and bit rate numbers.
    Currently listening to Etta James 192 KHz 24 Bit, so I think I have it.
    I am still trying to figure out how to play more than one song at a time, need to study that online manual closer.
    I will say, so far some songs still sound better than others, it is not a universal MQA is better across the board.
    Back to the listening, might give the Tidal connect a try now.
    Thanks again

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    Quote Originally Posted by MaxH13 View Post
    In my opinion the LUMIN app is superior to Roon and whist MQA is ‘different’, it sounds to my ear like someone has left the loudness switch on so, after using it for a while, I stopped using it.
    Also, there used to be a choice of Hi Res or MQA but now many recordings only have MQA available so it’s a non too subtle conversion system over to MQA - hence I use Qobuz now.
    Hi Max, I get what you are saying about the loudness button, but I live in an apartment building, so that actually helps with my normal lower volume listening.
    Too early to form any solid opinion yet, so back to the music.

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    Quote Originally Posted by No Quarter View Post
    Thanks for the reply Peter, I am home now and have been listening to MQA for a couple of hours now.
    First impression is quite good, it feels more like I am in the room with the artist.
    I see the little MQA on the front panel and also see the squiggly line in the App next to the song I am playing.
    Also at the top left of the page in the App, next to the picture of the Album cover, I noticed higher KHz and bit rate numbers.
    Currently listening to Etta James 192 KHz 24 Bit, so I think I have it.
    I am still trying to figure out how to play more than one song at a time, need to study that online manual closer.
    I will say, so far some songs still sound better than others, it is not a universal MQA is better across the board.
    Back to the listening, might give the Tidal connect a try now.
    Thanks again
    The best section to read is here:
    LUMIN App Browsing

    In particular the Add to Playlist and Info Pop-up sections.
    Note that changing the "Tap on Song List" setting changes the app behaviour significantly, so should definitely be investigated.
    My recommendation is Double-tap and Play Later.

    Also worth reading both pages of the Hints & Tips section of the manual.
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    Like Max I found I prefer Qobuz to Tidal/MQA. I use Qobuz exclusively now, and at low volumes like you do. May want to give it a try.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jmusica View Post
    Like Max I found I prefer Qobuz to Tidal/MQA. I use Qobuz exclusively now, and at low volumes like you do. May want to give it a try.
    Unfortunately I live in Canada, we do not have Qobuz here. This is why I am hoping for MQA to be worthwhile.
    Spotify Hifi should be available in Canada, if they ever release it.

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    Re: Lumin P-1 arrives tomorrow

    Quote Originally Posted by thingswelike View Post
    The best section to read is here:
    LUMIN App Browsing

    In particular the Add to Playlist and Info Pop-up sections.
    Note that changing the "Tap on Song List" setting changes the app behaviour significantly, so should definitely be investigated.
    My recommendation is Double-tap and Play Later.

    Also worth reading both pages of the Hints & Tips section of the manual.
    Thank you so much, will check this out when I have a little time.

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    Re: Lumin P-1 arrives tomorrow

    My SFP modules have arrived, just waiting on the optical cable now so I can try the optical input.
    I seem to remember reading somewhere that there is a sequence to follow when switching over to optical, is that in the online manual somewhere?
    I must say that the online manual can be confusing to me, I sure wish someone would post a YouTube tutorial video about how to use the App.
    Single tap, double tap…huh? Still confused about most of this App features.
    I have read the Tidal section, Add to playlist, info Pop-up section, but still kind of baffled as to what the heck I am doing.
    Usually just end up hitting buttons till I hear music, but even then I don’t know if one song will play, an album, a playlist…who knows.😖

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    Re: Lumin P-1 arrives tomorrow

    Yeah, the user experience and manual aren’t the best, but the sound and build quality make up for it.

    I can’t think of why there would be an order to switching over to optical. What I would do/have done: power down, disconnect the copper ethernet cable, insert the SFP, connect optical cable, power back up. Imo that should be it.
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    Re: Lumin P-1 arrives tomorrow

    Yes I will follow the order you suggest. I just remember reading somewhere that if you happened to leave the original Ethernet hooked up, and insert the optical, you would brick the unit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by No Quarter View Post
    if you happened to leave the original Ethernet hooked up, and insert the optical, you would brick the unit.
    It will not brick the unit but it will bring down your whole network temporarily (due to forming a network loop), until you remove one of the network connections.

    Please connect the fiber cable to the SFP module before inserting the module into the P1 / X1. (If it's X1 beware of the orientation as X1 is mounted upside down.) Some SFP modules require some force to be inserted fully until you feel a mechanical click.
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    Re: Lumin P-1 arrives tomorrow

    Thank you Peter, are you suggesting that I leave my switch (Cisco 2960) powered on when I unplug the Ethernet/plug in the optical Ethernet? I was planning on powering down the P1 and the switch. Good info about hearing the cable click into place, will do.

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    If you were planning to power down the switch, please feel free to do so.
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    Re: Lumin P-1 arrives tomorrow

    I got the Fibre working with no problem, and WOW, just WOW! Huge upgrade in my setup over the regular Ethernet input. From the first note I had a big grin on my face, and it is still there. I feel like I am listening to a different machine, so much body, soul, meat on the bones to the music now….awesome.
    One thing I noticed, now I can control the volume with my IPad volume button now. That seems new to me, but it might of been something I never noticed before.
    Anyway, very happy with the Fibre input, using a Cisco switch, nothing fancy.All this for $70 dollars 😎

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    Re: Lumin P-1 arrives tomorrow

    Which Cisco switch did you get? A used 2940?
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    Re: Lumin P-1 arrives tomorrow

    I have had this switch for a few years Peter, it is a 2960 8tc.
    What I said earlier about being able to adjust volume with my I pad only seems to work when I am using Tidal connect with the Tidal App. Using the Lumin App the volume of the IPad has no effect, does this sound normal?

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    Re: Lumin P-1 arrives tomorrow

    If you're referring to the iPad or Android physical volume buttons, Lumin apps do not support it.

    To control the volume using iPad, please launch Lumin app, and adjust the volume circle inside the Lumin app.

    P1 is shipped with a Lumin physical remote, you may use that as well.
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    Re: Lumin P-1 arrives tomorrow

    Yes I was referring to the physical volume buttons on the top edge of my IPad. I will check again when I get home, but I am pretty sure those buttons were controlling the volume, this was while inside the Tidal App, using connect.
    They did not affect volume while inside the Lumin App, playing music from there. I also have/use Roon, which I have the App installed on my IPad too.
    I will try adjusting with the IPad buttons while inside the Roon App too, when I get home.
    By the way, I use a Nagra integrated which has it’s own remote and volume control, not going Amp direct, but want to try it soon with an Anthem amp I have in a closet.

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    Re: Lumin P-1 arrives tomorrow

    Yes you may use some non-Lumin music apps that support the iOS / Android physical volume buttons to control volume of the Lumin hardware. However, Lumin native app does not.
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