Thread: Lumin P-1 arrives tomorrow

What else was in the firmware? My X1 got updated to 14.6.

Originally Posted by wklie

A new firmware is released for Lumin P1 - it is now possible to change to digital or analog input (using the Lumin IR remote) even if the network cable is disconnected (with "Network Error" displayed if not in input mode).

Lumin Firmware 14.6

In addition to the P1-specific enhancement above, default FLAC radio stations are updated, along with the latest Spotify Connect SDK.

LUMIN P1 Network Player Review | StereoNET Australia - Hi Fi & Home Cinema News

Lumin P1 streaming D/A preamplifier | Stereophile.com

Originally Posted by Remi

I found the review from Stereophile not very flattering. It appears that there is a disconnect in performance judgment between a professional reviewer and actual users? Most other input I have read is very positive!

Well, we love our P1. It sounds superb with MSB amps, Hegel, Luxman, Boulder, etc., everything we’ve tried. I love the look of it despite what others say. It doesn’t get lost in the rack, it stands out beautifully and bold. The sound is smooth and musical. Love it.


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Originally Posted by Remi

I found the review from Stereophile not very flattering. It appears that there is a disconnect in performance judgment between a professional reviewer and actual users? Most other input I have read is very positive!

Yes, I found it difficult to pull quotes from for our review page, but then they did award it the highest Class A in their Recommended Components list in the same issue, pointing to the review as evidence.
Having read a few reviews from John Atkinson, I think that's just his style to be honest.

Originally Posted by Low325

Exactly the opposite.
Tried two different SFP transceivers; Finistar and gtek both with Corning glass. One day decided to try Ethernet and just noticed more presence, 3D, sparkle and detail and just overall more ease to the system. Each time I switch to fiber the system sounds choked now with just Ethernet. Shrug.

It was mentioned that adding a ether regen might help but it’s just another power cord, power socket and possibly another LPS that I dont have at the moment. I love tweaks but I do like less in the chain.

I’ll revisit again and ping more folks offline and not derail this thread.

I find it really interesting as my experience is very different , BUT i use Cisco SFP Tranceivers can that be why ?

Originally Posted by kzhtoo

I have a question. How does HDMI work on P1? AppleTV or other devices can connect to P1 with HDMI and P1’s HDMI OUT goes to TV? Basically acting as a pre-pro for 2 front channels.

Actually 2 questions. Does it come in black?

Yes, my review sample was black


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Originally Posted by Remi

I found the review from Stereophile not very flattering. It appears that there is a disconnect in performance judgment between a professional reviewer and actual users? Most other input I have read is very positive!

I found that the P1 to be a very good Renderer (when used without the internal DAC) and a extremely good Player (with internal DAC)…. But I was less impressed with the digital volume control Leedh. Don’t get me wrong: it is really good in absolute terms and excellent value for money but just not at the same level as a good analog preamp. So any comparison will depend on the preamp or digital volume control used.

But I found the same with the volume control of my TAD D1000 MKII or of my previous DCS combo, so my comment is not Lumin specific.


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Originally Posted by kzhtoo

I have a question. How does HDMI work on P1? AppleTV or other devices can connect to P1 with HDMI and P1’s HDMI OUT goes to TV? Basically acting as a pre-pro for 2 front channels.

Actually 2 questions. Does it come in black?

Sorry, missed this.

If you want to see photos of the black model, there are some good ones in these 3 reviews:
「LUMIN P1」＆「LUMIN AMP」はホームオーディオの音質を格段に向上させる。コンパクトで美しいデザインで、ネットワークからH DMI機器まで高品位に楽しませてくれた - Stereo Sound ONLINE
Lumin P1: Test Netzwerkplayer, DAC & Vorstufe | fairaudio
LUMIN P1 | Audiotechnique

Re: HDMI. Yes exactly. It acts as a source switcher, routing audio to your amplifier and video to your TV.
Because it supports HDMI ARC, audio from your TV also gets routed to your amplifier.
All of this is limited to Stereo 2.0

Originally Posted by kzhtoo

I have a question. How does HDMI work on P1? AppleTV or other devices can connect to P1 with HDMI and P1’s HDMI OUT goes to TV? Basically acting as a pre-pro for 2 front channels.

If the Apple TV is set to output Stereo PCM, then you can have P1 analog output for the Apple TV signal. Since the same signal is also passed to the TV, you may want to mute the TV in this case.

Alternatively, if the Apple TV outputs surround, then P1 can (only) function as a HDMI switch to passthrough the surround signal to the TV, without doing analog output via P1 internal DAC.

If you dont need multiple inputs consider the X1.