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  1. #51
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    Re: Lumin P-1 arrives tomorrow

    What else was in the firmware? My X1 got updated to 14.6.

    Quote Originally Posted by wklie View Post
    A new firmware is released for Lumin P1 - it is now possible to change to digital or analog input (using the Lumin IR remote) even if the network cable is disconnected (with "Network Error" displayed if not in input mode).
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    Re: Lumin P-1 arrives tomorrow

    Lumin Firmware 14.6

    In addition to the P1-specific enhancement above, default FLAC radio stations are updated, along with the latest Spotify Connect SDK.
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    Re: Lumin P-1 arrives tomorrow

    I found the review from Stereophile not very flattering. It appears that there is a disconnect in performance judgment between a professional reviewer and actual users? Most other input I have read is very positive!

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    Re: Lumin P-1 arrives tomorrow

    Quote Originally Posted by Remi View Post
    I found the review from Stereophile not very flattering. It appears that there is a disconnect in performance judgment between a professional reviewer and actual users? Most other input I have read is very positive!
    Well, we love our P1. It sounds superb with MSB amps, Hegel, Luxman, Boulder, etc., everything we’ve tried. I love the look of it despite what others say. It doesn’t get lost in the rack, it stands out beautifully and bold. The sound is smooth and musical. Love it.


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  7. #57

    Lumin P-1 arrives tomorrow

    I have a question. How does HDMI work on P1? AppleTV or other devices can connect to P1 with HDMI and P1’s HDMI OUT goes to TV? Basically acting as a pre-pro for 2 front channels.

    Actually 2 questions. Does it come in black?

  8. #58

    Re: Lumin P-1 arrives tomorrow

    Quote Originally Posted by Remi View Post
    I found the review from Stereophile not very flattering. It appears that there is a disconnect in performance judgment between a professional reviewer and actual users? Most other input I have read is very positive!
    Yes, I found it difficult to pull quotes from for our review page, but then they did award it the highest Class A in their Recommended Components list in the same issue, pointing to the review as evidence.
    Having read a few reviews from John Atkinson, I think that's just his style to be honest.
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    Re: Lumin P-1 arrives tomorrow

    I missed that Class A rating! Thanks. I'm in the market for a new DAC and my head is spinning. May post a thread to get some help!

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    Re: Lumin P-1 arrives tomorrow

    Quote Originally Posted by Low325 View Post
    Exactly the opposite.
    Tried two different SFP transceivers; Finistar and gtek both with Corning glass. One day decided to try Ethernet and just noticed more presence, 3D, sparkle and detail and just overall more ease to the system. Each time I switch to fiber the system sounds choked now with just Ethernet. Shrug.

    It was mentioned that adding a ether regen might help but it’s just another power cord, power socket and possibly another LPS that I dont have at the moment. I love tweaks but I do like less in the chain.

    I’ll revisit again and ping more folks offline and not derail this thread.
    I find it really interesting as my experience is very different , BUT i use Cisco SFP Tranceivers can that be why ?
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    Re: Lumin P-1 arrives tomorrow

    Quote Originally Posted by kzhtoo View Post
    I have a question. How does HDMI work on P1? AppleTV or other devices can connect to P1 with HDMI and P1’s HDMI OUT goes to TV? Basically acting as a pre-pro for 2 front channels.

    Actually 2 questions. Does it come in black?
    Yes, my review sample was black Lumin P-1 arrives tomorrowLumin P-1 arrives tomorrow


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    Re: Lumin P-1 arrives tomorrow

    Quote Originally Posted by Remi View Post
    I found the review from Stereophile not very flattering. It appears that there is a disconnect in performance judgment between a professional reviewer and actual users? Most other input I have read is very positive!
    I found that the P1 to be a very good Renderer (when used without the internal DAC) and a extremely good Player (with internal DAC)…. But I was less impressed with the digital volume control Leedh. Don’t get me wrong: it is really good in absolute terms and excellent value for money but just not at the same level as a good analog preamp. So any comparison will depend on the preamp or digital volume control used.

    But I found the same with the volume control of my TAD D1000 MKII or of my previous DCS combo, so my comment is not Lumin specific.


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  13. #63

    Re: Lumin P-1 arrives tomorrow

    Quote Originally Posted by kzhtoo View Post
    I have a question. How does HDMI work on P1? AppleTV or other devices can connect to P1 with HDMI and P1’s HDMI OUT goes to TV? Basically acting as a pre-pro for 2 front channels.

    Actually 2 questions. Does it come in black?
    Sorry, missed this.

    If you want to see photos of the black model, there are some good ones in these 3 reviews:
    「LUMIN P1」&「LUMIN AMP」はホームオーディオの音質を格段に向上させる。コンパクトで美しいデザインで、ネットワークからH DMI機器まで高品位に楽しませてくれた - Stereo Sound ONLINE
    Lumin P1: Test Netzwerkplayer, DAC & Vorstufe | fairaudio
    LUMIN P1 | Audiotechnique

    Re: HDMI. Yes exactly. It acts as a source switcher, routing audio to your amplifier and video to your TV.
    Because it supports HDMI ARC, audio from your TV also gets routed to your amplifier.
    All of this is limited to Stereo 2.0
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    Re: Lumin P-1 arrives tomorrow

    Quote Originally Posted by kzhtoo View Post
    I have a question. How does HDMI work on P1? AppleTV or other devices can connect to P1 with HDMI and P1’s HDMI OUT goes to TV? Basically acting as a pre-pro for 2 front channels.
    If the Apple TV is set to output Stereo PCM, then you can have P1 analog output for the Apple TV signal. Since the same signal is also passed to the TV, you may want to mute the TV in this case.

    Alternatively, if the Apple TV outputs surround, then P1 can (only) function as a HDMI switch to passthrough the surround signal to the TV, without doing analog output via P1 internal DAC.
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    Re: Lumin P-1 arrives tomorrow

    Hello everyone, new member here that is thinking about purchasing a P1.
    My system is Khama DB 7’s driven by a Nagra integrated.
    My source is currently an Ifi Zen stream into a Musical Fidelity MX Dac, both streamer and Dac have an S-booster power supply.
    I previously owned Naim gear,Cary audio gear among others.
    I have owned quite a few Dynaudio speakers,Sopra 1’s, Paradigm back in the day.
    I was using a Naim Nd5xs2 into a Chord Mscaler/TT2 as my source last year,but traded that all in to fund the DB7’s.
    Now I am ready to upgrade the source again, so I am thinking a P1 ticks all the boxes. Another possibility I was thinking about is an Innous Zenith into a stand alone Dac.
    Currently I am home demoing a Saturn 201 Dac fed by my Ifi Zen stream.
    Hopefully I can make my mind up which direction to go with the help of forum members here.
    I have not heard the P1 yet, but a dealer near Toronto has one that I can demo/purchase. The problem is, that is a 4 hour drive one way.
    Any advice would be very much appreciated,
    or just info on the P1 in general.

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    Re: Lumin P-1 arrives tomorrow

    If you dont need multiple inputs consider the X1.
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    Re: Lumin P-1 arrives tomorrow

    I would actually use the inputs for my Xbox, blue ray player, and media player I have.
    At one time I had a full 7.2 home theatre, when I was in a house,but I dismantled all that when I moved to my current apartment building.
    The room is 13.5 feet wide x15.5 feet deep, and I can no longer crank up the volume.
    Looking for a great sounding simple system without stacks of boxes and wires.
    Besides, the P1 is the limit of my budget.
    The dealer who has it actually recommended I wait for the upcoming T3 because I already have a pre amp in the Nagra.

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    Re: Lumin P-1 arrives tomorrow

    Take the sweetspot Lumin P1


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    Re: Lumin P-1 arrives tomorrow

    Quote Originally Posted by No Quarter View Post
    I would actually use the inputs for my Xbox, blue ray player, and media player I have.
    At one time I had a full 7.2 home theatre, when I was in a house,but I dismantled all that when I moved to my current apartment building.
    The room is 13.5 feet wide x15.5 feet deep, and I can no longer crank up the volume.
    Looking for a great sounding simple system without stacks of boxes and wires.
    Besides, the P1 is the limit of my budget.
    The dealer who has it actually recommended I wait for the upcoming T3 because I already have a pre amp in the Nagra.
    Sent you a PM.

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