Thread: Lumin Firmware 14

I didn't have time to listen to music, but I find that the application works faster and smoothly on my ipad. Thanks Peter.

Peter, since installing 14.0a a couple of days ago, certain internet radio stations will not play via the Lumin App. Most will play, but some don't. They all play through Roon's Live Radio function and directly through Tune In. I tried deleting the problem stations from my Tune In favorites, updating my internet radio station settings in the Lumin App, then adding them back in to my Tune In favorites and again updating my Lumin internet radio station list, to no avail.

Many of the problematic stations are SomaFM streams (e.g., Deep Space One, Synphaera, and n5MD), but others are also affected, such as WKCR. Please check to see if this is in fact an issue with the latest firmware. Thanks.

Originally Posted by wklie

Please state your Lumin model.

I have the Lumin X1

The stations in question appear as icons in the list of internet radio stations in the Lumin App. When I touch the icon for one of the problematic stations on my iPad with my finger, that icon then appears in the upper left corner of the screen like normal. Sometimes the image of the program and the streaming data even appear, but the spinning wheel appears for awhile, then the spinning wheel disappears, and no sound comes from the system. Most stations play normally, as I mentioned.

P.S.: The problematic stations play fine via the Lumin Streaming function, streamed from my iPad. They just don't play through the built-in Internet Radio function of the Lumin App.

Originally Posted by wklie

If you don't use Tidal Connect I can send you instructions for downgrading to the previous firmware for those radio stations, before a fix becomes available. Would you like to use the previous firmware?

Yes, since I don't use Tidal Connect, please send me instructions for downgrading to the previous firmware. I would like to use the previous firmware until a fix becomes available. Thanks, Peter.

On my X1 I believe the sound quality has improved. There seems to be a more real sound. That is; larger, deeper soundstage. And yes there is more detail. It is subtle but noticeable. (Even before I read this thread).

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I agree that Firmware version 14.0a improves the overall sound quality heard through the Lumin App. See my post in my Lumin X1 thread at Lumin X1: Enabling an Even Simpler Yet Better Sounding System | What's Best Audio and Video Forum. The Best High End Audio Forum on the planet!

I am just rolling in from fw 14a, SQ is excellent already and I couldn't compare it to earlier fw versions.

Talking about firmware, is there a list of improvements pending? And is input for future increments desired/appreciated?

My top 3 suggestions for future features:

1. Lumin player, possible to scroll a longer filename so that you can see how and what on the screen. Switchable to On and Off in the unit settings.

2. Lumin player, possible to remove the 2000 item limit in the playlist and expand it to more?

3. Lumin App, upon hold+press a folder in the audio library, do not add the files from only the folder that is hold+pressed but also add the subfolders thereunder, this helps fast creation of a playlist if your files are organized well

Originally Posted by wklie

The major feature to show up next should be Spotify HiFi. Feel free to share your suggestions.

Left and Right Gain Control or aka Balance Control...Thanks!

Also would be nice if the Power on/off button is readily available in the main screen instead of hidden away behind the setup - options.

Originally Posted by wklie

The functionality is there only because of OpenHome compliance.

In practice, I suppose most people use the Idle Sleep feature.

Confirmed. Power button on and sleep via idle.

for Spotify HiFi,
please build support into Lumin App ala Tidal and Qobuz
including queue management.

and by the way, with the latest firmware 14.1?, all my TuneIn stations play just fine.
thank you for quick fix and continuing support!

which is not allowed? built-in integration or queue management or both?
Spotify does offer extensive public web api.

Originally Posted by wklie

You can only use Spotify app.

i.e., we don't want to write new code.

as i stated earlier, Spotify web api is public and open to any registered developer.
as an oem, i'm assuming Lumin has even greater access, but you are saying No?
on second thought, i'd rather use Spotify app anyway.
thank you for the clarification...

Originally Posted by wklie

Please internet upgrade the Lumin to Firmware 14.1

Thanks for the list, I believe most of them should work now.

For a few stations, the firmware is now able to select a higher bit rate for much better SQ.

Audiophile Baroque is offline, AFAIK.

Thanks much, Peter! You enable Lumin to continue to offer the best customer support in the streaming business. The quality and speed of your response to the internet radio station issue I raised is fantastic!

Originally Posted by wklie

I don't think the web API does what you think it will allow us to do what you asked for.

If you can find one API that retrieves the track music data, not metadata, not simply launching the Spotify app (which does not run on Lumin hardware - we run Spotify Connect SDK) let me know. On an embedded system where there is no browser, no Spotify app, you cannot play anything without Spotify music data.

there is no confusion between web api and connect api, two different animals.
as a Lumin user, what i asked for is similar support for Spotify as you provide for Tidal,
an ability to browse through my library. obviously, this applies strictly to the app, not firmware.

All that internet radio 🙂

In fw14.1 the Lumin app (iPhone) seems to think Minimserver is offline while it is not. So I now play via disk station share. Double tapping Lumin app, swiping it away to close it and reopening the app does not resolve. Anyone else have this?

Any thoughts also on how to add also SUBfolders when pressing and holding a folder for playback?
e.g. Audioshare\Folder1\100 subfolders with each 20 audiofiles. If you currently press+hold Folder1 you would still end up with an empty playlist.

Minimserver online again

Originally Posted by wklie

We use a tag model, so usually you tap and hold the album art to add an album to the playlist.

I see. I do browsing by folder and now add one by one -also to be Abe to hierarchically go above the tag system-. I know of the past that e.g. sonos could do this since forever. I just love navigating. Could it be made possible for a future fw ?

edit1: I’m thinking that the Lumin app currently already does an index of the integral folder structure. i can imagine if subfolders would be seen as part of their parent folder then it would work out.
edit2: meanwhile I keep enjoying the current capabilities.

After a few semi-casual sessions with music that I am very familiar with, I hear an improvement in the overall sound. To me, there seems to be less background noise, which makes instruments and vocals sound cleaner and more separated.

Tracks played at the usual volume levels don’t sound as loud as before (not sure if this is due to the perceived darker background or if something else accounts for this).

Bass seems a bit tighter, and I notice a very distinct improvement in the sound of cymbals.

More critical listening ahead, including playing some “problem tracks” and also comparing the sound of the T2 with firmware 14.1 to CD’s played on the Wadia, but so far I REALLY like what I hear.

Summing it up, this is yet another substantial FREE performance upgrade from Lumin. Bravo!