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    Lumin app - Tidal OAuth login method - OpenHome

    This week we are launching new versions of Lumin firmware 13.3 and Lumin app (iOS app 7.x, Anrdroid app 3.x) to support the new and mandatory Tidal OAuth login method.


    Impact on Lumin hardware users when using Lumin app (not Roon):

    - You will be prompted to login Tidal again, in the form of a web page


    Impact on non-Lumin hardware users using Lumin app (not Roon):

    - No impact at this moment as we are not removing the old API support from Lumin app (yet)
    - However, once Tidal decommissions the old login method in the near future, you will no longer be able to use Lumin app to browse / play Tidal Music on your non-Lumin hardware
    - To my knowledge, the current OpenHome API public web page is not updated to support Tidal OAuth login, so Lumin implementation of Tidal OAuth is proprietary rather open
    - If you are planning to buy non-Lumin hardware and use Lumin app to control it, I suggest you buy Lumin hardware instead. Lumin can withdraw app support for non-Lumin hardware at any time


    Impact on Roon users:
    - No impact


    Note:
    - I don't know when the old API will be decommissioned, likely not far from now.
    - For more technical information, google "Tidal oauth login" about open source projects
    - This post concerns Lumin app access to Tidal only, not related to Tidal Connect
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    Re: Lumin app - Tidal OAuth login method - OpenHome

    Good luck. All this streaming seems to be nothing but trouble. I might try it in a few years once all the kinks and bugs are worked out.
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    Re: Lumin app - Tidal OAuth login method - OpenHome

    Peter -

    Thanks for the update and information. When using the Lumin app on Lumin gear, is the new Tidal login function a one time action to reset permissions or every time the user tries to use Tidal?

    Thx!
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    Re: Lumin app - Tidal OAuth login method - OpenHome

    Peter

    Will these changes effect the Esoteric and Teac streamers or will things remain the same as Lumin products with them?
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    Re: Lumin app - Tidal OAuth login method - OpenHome

    Quote Originally Posted by Ritmo View Post
    When using the Lumin app on Lumin gear, is the new Tidal login function a one time action to reset permissions or every time the user tries to use Tidal?
    One time.
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    Re: Lumin app - Tidal OAuth login method - OpenHome

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    Will these changes effect the Esoteric and Teac streamers or will things remain the same as Lumin products with them?
    They will support the new Tidal OAuth login too.
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    Re: Lumin app - Tidal OAuth login method - OpenHome

    Hello Peter

    After the update 13.3 i have to log in to Tidal every day. Lumin app on T2. download 13.3 before the weekend.
    Tips ?

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    Re: Lumin app - Tidal OAuth login method - OpenHome

    Well i downloaded the upgrade , did login one time and it just works , i dont have to login every time i open the app or starting my T1 again.
    srt. i hope you will have your problem sorted.
    Maybe close the app , and then restart the app again will help.
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    Re: Lumin app - Tidal OAuth login method - OpenHome

    I saw now that i hadn't downloaded new firmware on Tidal, so maybe that was the reason. Thanks.

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    Re: Lumin app - Tidal OAuth login method - OpenHome

    Quote Originally Posted by srt View Post
    After the update 13.3 i have to log in to Tidal every day. Lumin app on T2. download 13.3 before the weekend.
    Tips ?
    Please tell me the firmware version you're running (in About function of the player) and the app version (in a different About function).

    Then, please make sure you're running Firmware 13.3 (in About function of Lumin), and running the latest apps 7.x for iOS and 3.x for Android. If it's still not working, please factory reset the Lumin hardware using the Lumin app, under the About function.
    Peter Lie
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    Re: Lumin app - Tidal OAuth login method - OpenHome

    Thanks Peter, i doe that. but i hadn't the new Tidal update, so i check tomorrow if it was that.

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    Re: Lumin app - Tidal OAuth login method - OpenHome

    i have 13.3 and 7.0 on iPad and 13.3 and 7.0.3 on iPhone

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    Re: Lumin app - Tidal OAuth login method - OpenHome

    Hi Peter,

    Actually the same problem like "srt".

    After the update 13.3 I have to log in to Tidal maybe at every 2-3 hours. The unit is a T2, using 13.3 and 7.0 on Iphone. Any fixes?

    Thank you!

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    Re: Lumin app - Tidal OAuth login method - OpenHome

    Quote Originally Posted by camelus View Post
    After the update 13.3 I have to log in to Tidal maybe at every 2-3 hours. The unit is a T2, using 13.3 and 7.0 on Iphone. Any fixes?
    Do you have Tidal logged in from other devices such as Tidal app on your smartphone and your family members' smartphones? No more than one device should have the same account logged in.

    What country are you in, and from what country did you create your Tidal account (if different)?
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    Re: Lumin app - Tidal OAuth login method - OpenHome

    Peter, I have the same account on an Iphone and an Ipad. Because these two devices were connected with the T2 in the same time could have caused the problem??
    Probably same Tidal account on my wife's Iphone as well but it was not playing any music when I had the issue.

    I am located in Romania.

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    Re: Lumin app - Tidal OAuth login method - OpenHome

    I was missing update on Tidal, so when i download new update on Tidal, every thing has work fine here.

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    What update on Tidal are you referring to? The 13.3?
    Last edited by camelus; November 28, 2020 at 03:43 PM. Reason: LE

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    Re: Lumin app - Tidal OAuth login method - OpenHome

    no, a Tidal update, i don't know, but it was ok after i went on Tidal on my iPad, and tok the last update at Tidal. Maybe just a coincidence but it now work fine.

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    Re: Lumin app - Tidal OAuth login method - OpenHome

    Quote Originally Posted by srt View Post
    no, a Tidal update, i don't know, but it was ok after i went on Tidal on my iPad, and tok the last update at Tidal. Maybe just a coincidence but it now work fine.
    You mean Tidal oiffical app update, right?
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    Re: Lumin app - Tidal OAuth login method - OpenHome

    Quote Originally Posted by srt View Post
    no, a Tidal update, i don't know, but it was ok after i went on Tidal on my iPad, and tok the last update at Tidal. Maybe just a coincidence but it now work fine.
    Thanks! No update here but since yesterday it seems it works perfect.

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    Re: Lumin app - Tidal OAuth login method - OpenHome

    Yes, correct Peter

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    Everything perfect here since 2 weeks ago!

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