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August 24, 2020, 12:04 PM #1
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Lumin App Request
In addition to a Lumin T2, I have an auralic altair streamer. The auralic app has a feature that I hope Lumin eventually incorporates. This is the ability to view pdf album booklets in the auralic app. Would Lumin consider providing this feature?
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August 24, 2020, 12:57 PM #2
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Noted.
Peter Lie
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August 25, 2020, 10:39 AM #3Flemming
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August 25, 2020, 03:06 PM #4
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I have asked the big names with their own player (Auralic, Aurender, Innuos, Lumin, Naim, dCS) last year about that very feature + the ability to view multiples .jpgs and only Auralic could see and open .pdf files back then.
I did a trial with Roon last year as well and It could do it too. While a truly fantastic program, I didn't like Roon and the way it opened the pdf in a new window every time and too many clicks to get to the music. Most probably a case of old habits die hard (or me being an old fart!). I am too used to JRemote/JRiver I suppose. But JRemote change the pdf/Asset feature this year and It doesn't fill up the screen completely no more. Not sure I like it. Again, old habits die hard...
I always wondered If it was just me that was weird (which I am!) for wanting/needing pdf booklets so bad. I often scan my own CD/LP booklets and create my own pdfs out of it (of favorites of mine). For me, it is paramount to the experience of music and I always wondered why It wasn't a de facto feature for all players out there but for some technical reason I can't phantom, It obviously isn't. I wonder if its laziness or If it is really complicated to add...
Again, maybe I am just an old fart, but I grew up listening to LPs and looking over and over and over to the cover art was part of the experience...
Bottom line, as far as I know, to see pdf booklets now, your choices are JRemote, Roon or Auralic.Audiophile on paper, poor bastard in reality...
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August 25, 2020, 09:24 PM #5
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We'll look into this later, but I cannot promise it.
Peter Lie
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August 26, 2020, 09:07 AM #6
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It's not a big deal to me. While I'm using using my iPad when I listen to music (or sometimes I'll just use my smart phone), I go to allmusic.com to look up additional info. I'll only do that once in a while. To me sound quality is the most important aspect to me.
Main System - Lumin U2, Modwright LS36.5 DM Preamp, VTV Purifi 1ET-7040SA with tube buffer, EMM Labs DAC 2X (ver. 2), Torus RM-20, Thiel CS 3.7s, 2 Rel S/812 subs
Back-up 1 - Premium Audio mini Gan Amp, Oppo 103D, 2 Richard Gray cond, Selah SA-2s, Sumiko S5 sub, Teac UD-503 DAC, Carver (modded) C-9
Back-up 2 - Onkyo TX-NR797, Panasonic DP-UB820, Vansevers cond, B&W P6s, PowerSoundAudio S1500 sub
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August 28, 2020, 01:14 PM #7
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I would like to ask something....
When I want to hear an album of some Artist, go to the Search up in the right of the screen, type the name of the Artist and search.
So it appears the name of the Artist, then I tap on the name.
So it appears in the screen two possibilities... Album and Top Tracks.
Then if i tap "Album" it appears all the Albums available and simply I maintain tapping on one of them and select "Play all songs"
But how is it possible to do that and "play all songs" from the Top Tracks..?
Cause if I maintain it tapped Top Tracks nothing occurs and if i tap and go inside the list of Top Tracks there is no way to "select all" to be played, either any Play button to play all is available.
Any help..?
Many thanks,McIntosh C302 + C2600 - Lumin A1 - Lenco L75 - Marantz SR6007 - Paradigm S6 - Gaia II - Chord Epic Twin Speaker Cable + Jumpers - Bada LB5500
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September 3, 2020, 10:58 AM #8
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I'll be very thankful for possibility of sort favorite Tidal albums (my music) not only by name, but also by date of add into favorite (newest first).
Marcin
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September 3, 2020, 05:12 PM #9
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That is included already..
At least in IOS not in Android.
That is the main reason for me to buy an Ipad cause with my old Samsung Tablet (android) this function was not available.Last edited by Fer1000; September 3, 2020 at 05:13 PM. Reason: typing mistake
McIntosh C302 + C2600 - Lumin A1 - Lenco L75 - Marantz SR6007 - Paradigm S6 - Gaia II - Chord Epic Twin Speaker Cable + Jumpers - Bada LB5500
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September 6, 2020, 02:34 PM #10
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Marcin
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September 7, 2020, 12:12 AM #11
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We've been trying an Android emulator on Windows - MEmu that seems to be able to run the Lumin apk.
Peter Lie
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September 10, 2020, 02:17 AM #12
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September 10, 2020, 07:17 AM #13
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September 10, 2020, 10:02 AM #14
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At a user level, no UI change except for the login - it will automatically launch a web browser for login. Under the hood it requires much more non-visible changes.
Peter Lie
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September 10, 2020, 01:40 PM #15
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Today, the user login is in the tools/setup area. Is the change going to require for the user to log in manually everytime one wants to use Tidal? If so, this is really going to be cumbersome if one is jumping from the network files to Tidal (back and forth) like I do at times. And, if true, this may be reason enough for me to drop Tidal and move to Qobuz (assuming this user login experience is done from the tools/setup area).
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September 10, 2020, 10:15 PM #16
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No, if everything works correctly - including Tidal service and our implementation. I see some complaints like what you feared with users of something else, but I don't know whether it's a Tidal problem or what, but it is not wide spread.
Peter Lie
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October 4, 2020, 11:19 PM #17
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October 5, 2020, 01:24 AM #18
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October 5, 2020, 08:40 AM #19
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October 5, 2020, 01:09 PM #20
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October 5, 2020, 02:59 PM #21
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I have checked carefully after the new App update (Androix 3.0) and regretfully while I do see the button 'My Mix', this folder is still empty.
If I tap on it there are no songs showed.
On the other hand I confirm that now it is possible to play all songs from the Top Tracks.
Thanks,McIntosh C302 + C2600 - Lumin A1 - Lenco L75 - Marantz SR6007 - Paradigm S6 - Gaia II - Chord Epic Twin Speaker Cable + Jumpers - Bada LB5500
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October 5, 2020, 11:38 PM #22
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Does the My Mix button in Lumin app have an album art?
Please login Tidal official app and check that your My Mix is not empty.Peter Lie
LUMIN Firmware Lead
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October 9, 2020, 01:12 PM #23
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October 9, 2020, 04:58 PM #24
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Dear Peter I have updated Lumin App 3.0.1 in Android and even though "My Mixes" show the album arts, when I tap to enter nothing is showed inside My Mixes... and on that moment the app get frozen.
I tried 3 times and same problem.
On the other hand I have also updated Lumin App in IOS and till now is working fine.
Thanks,McIntosh C302 + C2600 - Lumin A1 - Lenco L75 - Marantz SR6007 - Paradigm S6 - Gaia II - Chord Epic Twin Speaker Cable + Jumpers - Bada LB5500
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October 13, 2020, 04:01 PM #25
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Dear Peter after the last update Lumin 3.0.2 in Android it is working really good.
Many thanks for your usual support.!!!
Sincerely,
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October 24, 2020, 06:37 AM #26
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Re: Lumin App Request
Hi Peter,
Can be added the sample rate on the cover ( Roon likewise ) while sorting for album or author from library, qobuz, etc....?
Thanks.Giuliano
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October 24, 2020, 09:56 AM #27
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We have not found a way to do this without breaking the open standards compliance.
Peter Lie
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October 24, 2020, 10:10 AM #28
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December 9, 2020, 05:24 PM #29
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This is a minor thing that would be helpful to me.Could there be an in app brightness control?I only listen in a dark room and have the brightness turned down only for the lumin app,all other uses for my iPad I have a higher brightness.Be nice not to have to go into settings and change it all the time,yes I am aware there is a dark appearance setting.
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May 7, 2021, 03:26 AM #30
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In addition to implementing support for Spotify HiFi, we are doing a major rewrite of our Lumin Android app to improve stability, hopefully, and to add a few UI features such as adding two more themes and selectable top/bottom panel placement.
Peter Lie
LUMIN Firmware Lead
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May 7, 2021, 04:00 AM #31
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Peter, is there any chance for Deezer Hi-Fi availability on LUMIN players?
Marcin
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May 7, 2021, 05:07 AM #32
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Not going well at this point, although I would not rule out this possibility.
Spotify HiFi would be a huge threat to other streaming services, especially those that do not offer HiRes.
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June 18, 2021, 12:40 PM #33
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Re: Lumin App Request
I would like to request the Lumin App Team to add a Left and Right Channel Volume % control added to the app. I have some hearing loss in my Left ear which forces me to use a Passive Dual Attenuator as a Balance Control to make the Left Channel louder. Thanks!
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June 18, 2021, 10:20 PM #34
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Bud
Lumin X1 file player, Westminster Labs interconnect cable
Sony XA-5400ES SACD
Pass XP-22 pre, X600.5 amps
Magico S5 MKII Mcast Rose speakers, SPOD spikes
Shunyata Triton v3/Typhon QR for source, Denali 2000 (2) for amps
Shunyata Sigma XLR analog ICs, Sigma speaker cables
Shunyata Sigma HC (2), Sigma Analog, Sigma Digital, Z Anaconda (3) power cables
Mapleshade Samson four shelf maple rack, Micropoint brass footers
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July 31, 2021, 06:02 PM #35
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(iPhone app) Two suggestions to make the Folder Browsing (An alternative way to browse your music library instead of the standard tag-based browsing) a more pleasant experience.
(1) Be able to play subfolder content
Current situation:
This is not supported.
Desired situation:
Press and hold of a folder will also put in the playlist the content of subfolders.
Example:
In the real world I have a folder that is named "Weekend" where I move out or in certain albums, so, the "Weekend folder" content changes regularly.
How can I play all albums under "Weekend" without having to redo all tags or to have to move all albums one by one into a new playlist?
(2) Folder browsing view setting for USB/Mediaserver Folder Browsing
Current situation:
Each new launch of Lumin app resets the Folder Browsing to Artwork View
Desired situation:
Lumin app to remember Folder Browsing View of last session and restore that View upon launch.
Example:
Last View is Heading view, and after reopening the app and going to Folder Browsing the view shall be still set to Heading.
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August 1, 2021, 03:12 PM #36
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I'll place also here a not working link in the Lumin online manual.
This is in:
LUMIN App Browsing
in the second sentence the link to ' Standard UPnP browsing ' is dead and results in a document not found error.
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August 1, 2021, 04:40 PM #37
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//edited version//
(iPhone app) options to add all files e.g. by Genre.
(a) Folder Browsing cannot create playlists from top level View options (note similar behavior as mentioned one or two posts where the app can also create playlists from upper folders when not using the tags)
Current situation:
Adding all items for e.g. a Genre when in Folder Browsing does not work (Genre result e.g. Rock tile creates an empty playlist if you press and hold this and you need to go down 1 or 2 levels more )
Desired situation:
Make it possible in Folder Browsing e.g. by Genre to create a playlist from the top level Genre tile i.e. by press and hold.
(b) Sorted view cannot move the filtered files in the sorted view in one go to a playlist.
Current situation:
Genre sorted view (guitar icon) cannot select all music that is shown if you want to move all filtered in one go to a playlist. You need to do this one by one.
Desired situation:
Go into Genre sorted view (guitar icon) and from there make a selection option to choose ALL items filtered in that view to create a playlist from it
I hope this message and the 1 or 2 more above helps to streamline the app in order to be able to create larger playlists
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August 3, 2021, 01:13 PM #38
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Summary post #35 and #37 above:
In e.g. Linn Kazoo app you can go to the [n] items highest level, click there and add everything to the playlist. Once you do that this app is collecting the how & what and adds it to the device playlist. Also the playlist the Lumin device.
In the Lumin app there is no such option and you always have to drill down to album level. It would be nice if such behavior could be baked into the Lumin app
2ndly, if you in the Lumin App go to the dedicated Album view, you get a nice listed sorting in your view, but you cannot press and hold this. Please make it work in the next app update.
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August 4, 2021, 02:46 AM #39
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August 8, 2021, 05:57 PM #40
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Just upgraded to a D2 from Node 2i - paired with Exposure amp and Linn speakers. Significant step up. I have more than 4000 albums on a NAS. Using Bluos, I could create a playlist from the Library and just shuffle - really liked be surprised by songs I hadn't heard for a while. Seems like Lumin playlist app is limited to 2000 songs. Is there any way around this? If not I guess this is a request .....
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August 8, 2021, 07:50 PM #41
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+1
Note:
I had the same comment earlier when I upgraded a Lumin player. On this forum though it is mentioned that the 2000 songs limit is 1) due to the OpenHome compatibility and 2) it would take a long time to reload the library in the Lumin App.
For me I'd also suggest to put in the Lumin app an option in the settings that you can (setting A) either limit the 2000 songs with OpenHome compatibility and to have a reasonable time to build up the library asap or (setting B) don't follow the OpenHome compability + take just the time for the app to create the full library regardless of the time it takes.
In the meantime I got used to the Lumin app, and now listen album by album, but indeed like above, I miss the option to play a folder with 1 genre at random regardless of the 10000 songs there may be.
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August 8, 2021, 07:51 PM #42
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Bud
Lumin X1 file player, Westminster Labs interconnect cable
Sony XA-5400ES SACD
Pass XP-22 pre, X600.5 amps
Magico S5 MKII Mcast Rose speakers, SPOD spikes
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Shunyata Sigma XLR analog ICs, Sigma speaker cables
Shunyata Sigma HC (2), Sigma Analog, Sigma Digital, Z Anaconda (3) power cables
Mapleshade Samson four shelf maple rack, Micropoint brass footers
Three 20 amp circuits.
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August 8, 2021, 08:33 PM #43
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Peted has referred to this before:
LUMIN App Playlist.
"Maximum songs
In order to keep performance consistent across all OpenHome and UPnP AV devices, the maximum number of songs allowed in any single Playlist is 2000.
To manage more than 2000 songs, please split them into multiple playlists using the Save and Load Playlists features above"Main System - Lumin U2, Modwright LS36.5 DM Preamp, VTV Purifi 1ET-7040SA with tube buffer, EMM Labs DAC 2X (ver. 2), Torus RM-20, Thiel CS 3.7s, 2 Rel S/812 subs
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Back-up 2 - Onkyo TX-NR797, Panasonic DP-UB820, Vansevers cond, B&W P6s, PowerSoundAudio S1500 sub
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August 8, 2021, 09:07 PM #44
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Bud
Lumin X1 file player, Westminster Labs interconnect cable
Sony XA-5400ES SACD
Pass XP-22 pre, X600.5 amps
Magico S5 MKII Mcast Rose speakers, SPOD spikes
Shunyata Triton v3/Typhon QR for source, Denali 2000 (2) for amps
Shunyata Sigma XLR analog ICs, Sigma speaker cables
Shunyata Sigma HC (2), Sigma Analog, Sigma Digital, Z Anaconda (3) power cables
Mapleshade Samson four shelf maple rack, Micropoint brass footers
Three 20 amp circuits.
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August 8, 2021, 09:25 PM #45
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Thanks plonkywonky. Seems to me this removes one of the major advantages of digital music - I've been 'shuffling' since early iPod days. Somehow Bluos manage to load the full library in the playqueue very fast, but I'd accept slow frankly. Kazoo seems to have the same problem - 1000 songs. Find myself wondering if JRiver on a laptop might be a solution.
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August 8, 2021, 09:32 PM #46
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August 9, 2021, 10:21 AM #47
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Dear Peter considering that everyday more and more people are using Lumin as an unique Preamp in their systems my humble suggestions is to evaluate the possibility to include some "Tone Controls" or maybe an "Equalizer" in the app enabling us to correct problems in our listening rooms or maybe to adjust sound to our best preferences.
I know that some of this actions can be done through Roon but for the rest of people who do not use Roon it will be a nice upgrade i think.
Thanks in advanceMcIntosh C302 + C2600 - Lumin A1 - Lenco L75 - Marantz SR6007 - Paradigm S6 - Gaia II - Chord Epic Twin Speaker Cable + Jumpers - Bada LB5500
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August 9, 2021, 10:33 AM #48
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The longer the chain between source and amp the more issues there can be. I like Lumin for the no nonsense design, so I'd stay away from tone controls and do that via a DAC if needed. But, I have a digital player so maybe it can be done only for the devices that have a DAC included.
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August 9, 2021, 10:56 AM #49
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I think that Tone Controls or Equalizer is really necessary in order to correct problems in our listening rooms or maybe to adjust sound to our best preferences and there is no necessity to include an external dac or something like that.
It can be an extra function on Lumin App hence it can be switched ON/OFF so people who do not want this function can leave it in OFF or something like that.
Considering that Lumin App has a lot of function to include this new one seems to be no further problem... let´s wait Peter comments.McIntosh C302 + C2600 - Lumin A1 - Lenco L75 - Marantz SR6007 - Paradigm S6 - Gaia II - Chord Epic Twin Speaker Cable + Jumpers - Bada LB5500
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August 10, 2021, 05:54 PM #50
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In my case I chose Lumin as Lumin uses no-nonsense design without compromises. Tone and other processing in my humble opinion could completely destroy the feeling and nature of sound. I have heard examples of network players that have such features and have a (distorted) digital output which sounds "processed" even with the feature turned off. It is just processing power that gets wasted on other processing than playing the sound in perfect order. To compare if a 2000 item playlist is already a limiting factor, the unit might not even handle this. I found Minimal is key in the Lumin design.
More important to me, I'd try to resolve issues at the source, this means sound treatment of a room via a transport is not the desired way to fix issues with the room. This should be done in/on the room itself. So for tone controls I recommend still a DAC that has the onboard features to do so, there are several high quality DACs for this specific reason in the 2k$ range that can be used for this.
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