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    Re: Lumin App Issue

    I have been running Qobuz for over four years on two different streamers running Lumin software and have never had an issue with Hi Res or any other type of file playback. Many more issues with Tidal. If you are determined to use the Android app, IOS version is better, then try deleting the app from your phone then shut the phone down completely and re-boot it. Then reinstall the Lumin app fresh and try it. Nothing wrong with the Lumin app or Qobuz themselves.
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    Re: Lumin App Issue

    I agree and I just ordered the iPad Air 256 from Apple. I think this will correct the issues I'm having.

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    Re: Lumin App Issue

    If you try the Android phone app again let us know if wiping it out and reinstalling works. Also just be sure that your phone is on your houses network and not defaulting back to the cellular network WiFi. Also some of the ISP's like Comcast are having over use issues now in peak day time hours that may make playing standard resolution files easier to play than HiRes ones.
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    Re: Lumin App Issue

    Quote Originally Posted by Audioismylife View Post
    It's too bad I can't listen to Qobuz in Hi-Rez. I purchased this unit for this purpose. Is there another streaming service that works better such as Tidal? Would an iPad work better? Thank you for getting back to me
    No, I don't mean you can't listen to Qobuz Hi-Res.

    Since it's not clear whether it's a Qobuz download speed problem, internet bandwidth or an Android app bug or something else, what I said was just tests that may hopefully narrow down the scope of possible causes.

    Are you using USB connection to DAC? Which DAC model is it?

    Please also disconnect the USB, power cycle both the Lumin U1 MINI and the DAC. After Lumin is booted up, reconnect the USB.
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    Re: Lumin App Issue

    Thank you for all your responses and help. My new iPad Air arrived today and my Lumin U1 Mini now works flawlessly. The iPad display is much better too and everything works much smoother. I am using the Lumin in a headphone system consisting of...Audeze LCD-X and Focal Clear headphones, Schiit Mjolnir 2 amp, and Schiit Yggdrasil Multbit DAC. I may also use the Lumin in my Pass Labs/Audio Research/Focal hifi system but I'm enjoying it with headphones for now. Thank you again

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    Congrats, glad everything is now working smoothly. In most cases the Android versions of streamer apps seem to be hit or miss depending on the brand of phone/tablet used and how close to the Google standard that manufacturer sticks in their implementation of the Android software. The streamer app developers have to pick one version and work to it.
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    Re: Lumin App Issue

    Quote Originally Posted by Finnegan View Post
    Possibility of showing Qobuz pdf booklets.
    This is added to Lumin Android app 3.0.3. Tap and hold a Qobuz track (not album) to see if there is an associated PDF booklet. UI wise this is not ideal, but owing to the Qobuz API we cannot add this function when you're just browsing the albums without going into a specific album to see the tracks.
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    Re: Lumin App Issue

    Quote Originally Posted by wklie View Post
    Lumin Android app 2.0.3.1
    LUMIN - Apps on Google Play
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    Have you read the reviews?
    I really would like a Lumin UI Mini but not enough to have to buy an Apple product

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    Re: Lumin App Issue

    I don't buy Apple products for personal use either, even though I have to tell customers to buy an iPad. We have recently hired an experienced Android software engineer, and fixed over 50 crashes of Android app very recently, and I recommend you to try it. Not that it won't crash, but at least it is usable now.

    You don't have to use Lumin app on Android. One of the distinguishing advantage with Lumin is open standard compliance and UI choice. Even if you don't like Lumin app, you can use Linn Kazoo, Bubble DS Next, other UPnP app, or Roon to control Lumin hardware.

    Among our competitors, one of them takes a fully proprietary approach. You have no choice in app. When your next smartphone OS upgrade breaks their app (however unlikely that may be), you have no other alternatives.

    Another competitor used to have an Android app, but abandoned it. Some of their customers use Lumin app.
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    Re: Lumin App Issue

    Anyone here can comment on using Linn Kazoo?

    I thinking of purchasing an Apple Ipad 2. Good enough to run the Lumin app?

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    I was using the iPad 2 (The retina version) until last August. It worked fine with my modest music collections (1200 albums) from my QNAP NAS and fine with TIDAL and Qobuz.
    It's definitely end-of-life though, so you may find a couple of generations newer to be supported by Apple longer.
    I haven't looked at prices, but with a new 7th gen one only costing £290, I would assume there are lots available at around £100

    Regarding Kazoo - I use it on my PC occasionally for controlling LUMIN works fine, but misses some of the aspects of the LUMIN App I love - it's more of a vanilla UPnP experience.
    Either way, you'll need the LUMIN App for setting up your preferences, but it doesn't matter whether it's on Android or iOS, phone or tablet so most people now have a supported device.
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    Re: Lumin App Issue

    Quote Originally Posted by Emil View Post
    I thinking of purchasing an Apple Ipad 2. Good enough to run the Lumin app?
    Should consider 1GB RAM (iPad 3 2012, iPad Mini 2 2013) as a minimum unless you have a small library.
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    Re: Lumin App Issue

    I have bought an Ipad a couple of months ago to control my Lumin A1 and I was very happy.

    Nevertheless let me remark that after the last updates on Android App right now I´m using my cell phone (Samsun S8) to control my Lumin with no further problems.

    The last upgrades works very good. The App do not crush so frequently and works really very fluent.
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    Re: Lumin App Issue

    Hi Guys

    I know, that's not native Lumin app, but yesterday on Linn Kazoo Tidal was visible and available as music source, but today disappeared from desktop and android Kazoo app. And the best is that my yesterday added Tidal playlist is still visible and playable from Kazoo. Anybody knows what's wrong with that? Tidal / Lumin changed something with Kazoo compatibility? Of course Lumin app works perfectly, but I need also something on desktop (Win10) too.
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    Re: Lumin App Issue

    Problem solved - Tidal changed log in procedure, so not only Kazoo, but even Lumin App, and others application in some circumstances could have some troubles with Tidal availability
    Marcin

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    Re: Lumin App Issue

    I'm not sure this is related to your case, but if you want to continue to use Kazoo for Tidal, your Lumin firmware needs to stay at Firmware 13.2 instead of the latest. The latest firmware switches to use the new Tidal OAuth login (supported by latest Lumin app only) instead of the old login (which is supported by Kazoo and some OpenHome apps).

    For more details:
    Lumin app - Tidal OAuth login method - OpenHome
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    Re: Lumin App Issue

    I just tested Kazoo iOS app Tidal login and playback to Lumin hardware running old Tidal login method, and it still works for me.
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    Re: Lumin App Issue

    Quote Originally Posted by wklie View Post
    I just tested Kazoo iOS app Tidal login and playback to Lumin hardware running old Tidal login method, and it still works for me.
    Yep. Now everything is OK, but ... is there any chance for native desktop Lumin app for Win10 or even better - multi platform via web browser?
    Marcin

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    Re: Lumin App Issue

    Please try MEmu to run Lumin apk on Windows.
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    Re: Lumin App Issue

    Quote Originally Posted by wklie View Post
    Please try MEmu to run Lumin apk on Windows.
    THnX! I'll check it today.
    Marcin

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