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    Re: A Kharma Christmas

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    Ken - the DB9-S fills our 20 x 25, and I feel the DB11-S picks the ball up from there and plays into the 20 x 25 or larger room. It’s not to say they won’t work in a 17 x 25 (because they do, we tried it), but they really can “breath” and stretch their legs in a 20 x 25 or bigger. As you move along S7, DB7, DB9, you can really see the subtle progression. But the DB11 is a quantum leap in size, performance, etc. They are also fully biampable/biwireable or someone can just use a single amp/monos or one set of wires. There is a switch on the back and beautifully finished jumpers. With the price increase going to $60K+ after, there’s also a substantial jump in price too over the rest of the DB series.


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    Shouldn't be looking at more than 2 dimensions for a given room? Saying a speaker is not, strictly speaking called for until you hit, say, larger than 20 x 25
    is leaving out the volume of the room totally. A 20 x 25 x 8 has 4,000 cu ft of volume whereas a 17x25x8 has "only" 3400 cu ft of volume, HOWEVER,
    you raise the ceiling of that 17 x 25 to a 10' ceiling and the volume jumps to 4,250 cu ft. By the same token, saying a speaker (the 11s) really breath
    better when the room is 20 x 25 or larger leaves out other sizes where they might be called for, e.g. 20 x 20 with 10 or 11 foot ceilings which is the same
    volume or more than the "guideline" room of 20 x 25 (with an 8 foot ceiling).
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    Re: A Kharma Christmas

    Quote Originally Posted by SCAudiophile View Post
    Shouldn't be looking at more than 2 dimensions for a given room? Saying a speaker is not, strictly speaking called for until you hit, say, larger than 20 x 25
    is leaving out the volume of the room totally. A 20 x 25 x 8 has 4,000 sq ft of volume whereas a 17x25x8 has "only" 3400 sq ft of volume, HOWEVER,
    you raise the ceiling of that 17 x 25 to a 10' ceiling and the volume jumps to 4,000 sq ft. By the same token, saying a speaker (the 11s) really breath
    better when the room is 20 x 25 or larger leaves out other sizes where they might be called for, e.g. 20 x 20 with 10 or 11 foot ceilings which is the same
    volume or more than the "guideline" room of 20 x 25 (with an 8 foot ceiling).
    Most definitely. I would say lower ceilings cause more of an issue. Whether it’s 10 or 12 isn’t quite as impactful than say 7 or 8.


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    Re: A Kharma Christmas

    Quote Originally Posted by SCAudiophile View Post
    Shouldn't be looking at more than 2 dimensions for a given room? Saying a speaker is not, strictly speaking called for until you hit, say, larger than 20 x 25
    is leaving out the volume of the room totally. A 20 x 25 x 8 has 4,000 sq ft of volume whereas a 17x25x8 has "only" 3400 sq ft of volume, HOWEVER,
    you raise the ceiling of that 17 x 25 to a 10' ceiling and the volume jumps to 4,000 sq ft. By the same token, saying a speaker (the 11s) really breath
    better when the room is 20 x 25 or larger leaves out other sizes where they might be called for, e.g. 20 x 20 with 10 or 11 foot ceilings which is the same
    volume or more than the "guideline" room of 20 x 25 (with an 8 foot ceiling).
    I am sure it is a typing mistake. Volume is measured in cubic…

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    Re: A Kharma Christmas

    Quote Originally Posted by Adyc View Post
    I am sure it is a typing mistake. Volume is measured in cubic…
    Yes, correct,....it was a typo. Thanks for catching it.
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    Re: A Kharma Christmas

    The Aubergine is remarkably subtle. From a typical listening position they look black. Only up close do they show their true colors. Very cool.

    Oh, and they sound incredible. 😉
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    Re: A Kharma Christmas

    Do you still have the DB11 or did they sell?


    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post






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    Re: A Kharma Christmas

    Quote Originally Posted by nc42acc View Post
    Do you still have the DB11 or did they sell?
    Still have them. Customers are getting new pairs.


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    Re: A Kharma Christmas

    You guys are what my wife would deem a 'bad influence,' putting audio porn like this out on the internet.

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    Re: A Kharma Christmas

    Mike sent me a video of his NAIM system with Kharma Exquisite MIDI speakers, now that they’ve broken in somewhat. The system sounds phenomenal! Just amazing transparency and refinement. He said he will post it when he has the opportunity.

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    Re: A Kharma Christmas

    Quote Originally Posted by GSOphile View Post
    You guys are what my wife would deem a 'bad influence,' putting audio porn like this out on the internet.
    It’s really out of control.
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    Re: A Kharma Christmas

    Quote Originally Posted by Alpinist View Post
    Mike sent me a video of his NAIM system with Kharma Exquisite MIDI speakers, now that they’ve broken in somewhat. The system sounds phenomenal! Just amazing transparency and refinement. He said he will post it when he has the opportunity.

    Ken
    Mike, will you be posting the video mentioned above? Would be great if you could. Many thanks

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    Re: A Kharma Christmas

    I am about to buy a Midi 3.0. Can you tell some about its character especially for soundstage depth and holographic imaging?

    Best

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