The new JOB INTegrated Amp is coming !
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Nikhil
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Lampi Tube glow vs Goldmund DSP magic!
It is a different sound to be honest but not by much.
The INT goes toe to toe with my Amber fronted separates.
Absolutely no drop off in quality. I haven't been able to fault the INT in any way.
My original intent was to use the INT in a second setup but it has taken center stage.
I still have the Lampi Amber but honestly it has been sitting idle for the past two months.
Go for it! It is one heck of an amp regardless of price.
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tomy2
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The Job website isn't loaded with details on the INT unless there's more in the 6moons review which I haven't read yet. Is there a remote? How many sets of outputs? I have monitors that are 88db at 8ohm and will be integrating some powered subs soon...
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Nikhil
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Joe has given some great pictures ...
You can also take a look at the Job INT from their Facebook page
To answer your questions:
Yes there is a remote with Volume Control and Mute Functions
Outputs: One set of speaker binding posts (See pics)
I don't think the INT will have a problem with an 88dB monitor.
However the INT does not have a pre out for a Sub.
Inputs: USB, Optical Toslink, Digital Coax (with the Toslink having auto priority) and one set of RCA Analog
Hope this helps!
Jack
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I think the Job Int. might be a good match with one of Clayton's Spatial Hologram models. Eventually I will try the 225 with mine paired with the Nuprime DAC-10.
Nikhil
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Joe, you've had the INT for a couple of days now.
I would really like to hear what you think specially in comparison with the 225.
The question in my mind now is how does the INT compare to a Job Pre2 + 225 combo.
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Hi Nikhil,
I do not have any experience with the Job preamp. From all my research, readings and contact with someone who actually had one, I am convinced the Job INT is the better package/combo. Unless you were determined to use a low gain tube preamp of good quality, I would rather see someone go for the Job 250 monos and have more power. If you had efficient enough speakers of a benign load, the Job 225 would be adequate but I still think the Job INT, as a package, is a touch warmer in tone than the 225 with perfect integration and better sound to my ear.
It has been a while since I had the 225 in my system but with the high gain of that amp, it was finicky to match a proper preamp.
Honestly, the best preamp for that amp was the Dartzeel NHB-18NS, dead quiet, low gain, and wonderfully sweet. No one in their right mind would use that combo because of the price mismatch, but I am not "normal". Another great preamp, rather I should say passive, was built for me by Richard Becker of AUM Acoustics. He was able to tailor the piece to my taste. Other preamps recommended are low gain, eg. 0-6db gain, like the Primaluna preamp would work extremely well, this is based on a friends recommendation.
I was able to get the 225 to sing extremely well.
Out of the box, the Job INTegrated is such a great package, no tweaking necessary. Sure it performs best fed by a digital signal because the RCA "analog" inputs are converted to digital and back to analog. Not a concern for me because of the way I intend to use it.
The Job INTegrated, I think, works so well because it is so tightly integrated, meaning the preamp/amp/dac work well together. No gain mismatch to worry about. No additional cables necessary, no additional pieces to worry about matching and wondering if they will work together properly.
The sound of the Job INTegrated has a slight sweetness that typical solid state does not. It has a big sound stage, tremendous separation, wonderful vocals that are clearly heard that are right there in front of you. Bass is supremely articulate and when called upon, delivers powerfully. Image depth is surprising for solid state. You’d swear that this "system" cost a lot more than what you paid for it.
For $1699 delivered, you can not only taste, but actually own an "audiophile" system that delivers in spades. As long as your speakers are not monsters to drive and are reasonably efficient, you are golden.
The Job INTegrated is killer good.
I do not have any experience with the Job preamp. From all my research, readings and contact with someone who actually had one, I am convinced the Job INT is the better package/combo. Unless you were determined to use a low gain tube preamp of good quality, I would rather see someone go for the Job 250 monos and have more power. If you had efficient enough speakers of a benign load, the Job 225 would be adequate but I still think the Job INT, as a package, is a touch warmer in tone than the 225 with perfect integration and better sound to my ear.
It has been a while since I had the 225 in my system but with the high gain of that amp, it was finicky to match a proper preamp.
Honestly, the best preamp for that amp was the Dartzeel NHB-18NS, dead quiet, low gain, and wonderfully sweet. No one in their right mind would use that combo because of the price mismatch, but I am not "normal". Another great preamp, rather I should say passive, was built for me by Richard Becker of AUM Acoustics. He was able to tailor the piece to my taste. Other preamps recommended are low gain, eg. 0-6db gain, like the Primaluna preamp would work extremely well, this is based on a friends recommendation.
I was able to get the 225 to sing extremely well.
Out of the box, the Job INTegrated is such a great package, no tweaking necessary. Sure it performs best fed by a digital signal because the RCA "analog" inputs are converted to digital and back to analog. Not a concern for me because of the way I intend to use it.
The Job INTegrated, I think, works so well because it is so tightly integrated, meaning the preamp/amp/dac work well together. No gain mismatch to worry about. No additional cables necessary, no additional pieces to worry about matching and wondering if they will work together properly.
The sound of the Job INTegrated has a slight sweetness that typical solid state does not. It has a big sound stage, tremendous separation, wonderful vocals that are clearly heard that are right there in front of you. Bass is supremely articulate and when called upon, delivers powerfully. Image depth is surprising for solid state. You’d swear that this "system" cost a lot more than what you paid for it.
For $1699 delivered, you can not only taste, but actually own an "audiophile" system that delivers in spades. As long as your speakers are not monsters to drive and are reasonably efficient, you are golden.
The Job INTegrated is killer good.
Nikhil
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Wow! Joe that is saying something.
Thanks for taking the time to put down your impressions on the INT.
This has to be the best deal in audio right now by far. Earlier today I hooked up a pair of PSB Image T5 speakers for a friend. The INT just made them sing like they never did before. We all know that given quality gear the INT shines but it also makes humble gear sound great. Like you said, one can get a taste of genuine audiophile quality. Pair it with a capable speaker and source and you really are set for a while.
Time to just kick back and get back to the music.
Thanks for taking the time to put down your impressions on the INT.
This has to be the best deal in audio right now by far. Earlier today I hooked up a pair of PSB Image T5 speakers for a friend. The INT just made them sing like they never did before. We all know that given quality gear the INT shines but it also makes humble gear sound great. Like you said, one can get a taste of genuine audiophile quality. Pair it with a capable speaker and source and you really are set for a while.
Time to just kick back and get back to the music.
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Hello Job INTegrated owners,
I’ve got an issue with USB connection. When I turn the INT on the first song played is very distorted. A high cut out sound, but the song can be recognised. When I stop and restart the song the problem is over. The problem than doesn’t occur again until I restart the INT.
I’ve been using a Auralic Aries Mini as digital source. To avert the distortion problem with the first song I use Coax instead of USB input. However recently I bought a Sonore microRendu. This streamer only has USB out. Also with the microRendu the distortion problem with the first song persists.
The Aries Mini and microRendu, don't have an off-switch. But I turn off the Job INTegrated after listening. So the Job is turned on while the digital source is already on (but not playing). This could be the cause. But it means I always have to restart the first song I play.
Do you have this too?
I’ve got an issue with USB connection. When I turn the INT on the first song played is very distorted. A high cut out sound, but the song can be recognised. When I stop and restart the song the problem is over. The problem than doesn’t occur again until I restart the INT.
I’ve been using a Auralic Aries Mini as digital source. To avert the distortion problem with the first song I use Coax instead of USB input. However recently I bought a Sonore microRendu. This streamer only has USB out. Also with the microRendu the distortion problem with the first song persists.
The Aries Mini and microRendu, don't have an off-switch. But I turn off the Job INTegrated after listening. So the Job is turned on while the digital source is already on (but not playing). This could be the cause. But it means I always have to restart the first song I play.
Do you have this too?
Nikhil
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Can't say I have had this problem but I have had a messed up USB controller on my Audio PC. I managed to solve that by using a spare laptop and re-installing the Goldmund USB driver. Played a few songs on that laptop to the Job INT ensured that the Job USB input was working. Reconnected the Audio PC and I was back in business.
Hope this helps!
Hope this helps!
jaaptina
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Hello Nikhil,
Thanks for your response. Do you use the USB input, keep the Audio PC always on and switch off the Job regularly? If you use the INTegrated that way and you don't have trouble with the first song playing after turning on the INTegrated the problem might indeed lie with the streamer software. I will try your trick with the Goldmund USB driver on a laptop. See if that changes something.
Nikhil
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Hello Jaaptina,
I did not have the same problem as you do. In my case the computer would not detect the Job over the USB input. The recommended fix was to do a driver reinstall. For some reason this did not work. But using another computer seemed to get the USB "unstuck" and I was then able to use my Audio PC.
On the Auralic software - have you checked the usual suspects such as DoP etc?
http://support.auralic.com/hc/en-us/articles/205879538-Setup-ARIES-MINI-Output-Channel
I did not have the same problem as you do. In my case the computer would not detect the Job over the USB input. The recommended fix was to do a driver reinstall. For some reason this did not work. But using another computer seemed to get the USB "unstuck" and I was then able to use my Audio PC.
On the Auralic software - have you checked the usual suspects such as DoP etc?
http://support.auralic.com/hc/en-us/articles/205879538-Setup-ARIES-MINI-Output-Channel
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Great, it just goes to show that source first (in your case USB player) makes more sense to me but as long as you've figured it out, that's all that matters.
My modified Sonos is always on and hooked up the the rca spdif input, never had a problem and the sound is awesome!
My modified Sonos is always on and hooked up the the rca spdif input, never had a problem and the sound is awesome!
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Nikhil
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As a matter of fact I do the exact opposite. AudioPC ON then the Job INT
Reverse order when powering down - but it doesn't seem to make a difference.
But if it has helped fix your problem that's all that matters.
Dond006
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Hi Guys,
Just ordered one two days ago. Can't wait to test the beast on my KEF R900 (source is Windows 8.1 Jriver).
I have a question : I have to buy a new power supply cable as the one in the box is for US plugs and I'm in France.
Do you really think the quality of the power cable can have an impact on sound and if so : do more expensive cables give a better sound (in fact I suspect it to be hasardous).
Sorry for my english
Just ordered one two days ago. Can't wait to test the beast on my KEF R900 (source is Windows 8.1 Jriver).
I have a question : I have to buy a new power supply cable as the one in the box is for US plugs and I'm in France.
Do you really think the quality of the power cable can have an impact on sound and if so : do more expensive cables give a better sound (in fact I suspect it to be hasardous).
Sorry for my english
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Welcome to the forum Dond006, thank you for joining.
Congratulations. I have and love the Job INTegrated, they make great gear.
A high quality cable will make a difference. The cable that Job sells is great too, trust your ears. I started with a Shunyata venom and like the combo.
Congratulations. I have and love the Job INTegrated, they make great gear.
A high quality cable will make a difference. The cable that Job sells is great too, trust your ears. I started with a Shunyata venom and like the combo.
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jaaptina
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Congratulations! Mine came with cheap OEM EU (Dutch?) power cable. Now using a Diy cable with Teflon tubings. Sounds good. My friend hears the difference [emoji4].Hi Guys,
Just ordered one two days ago. Can't wait to test the beast on my KEF R900 (source is Windows 8.1 Jriver).
I have a question : I have to buy a new power supply cable as the one in the box is for US plugs and I'm in France.
Do you really think the quality of the power cable can have an impact on sound and if so : do more expensive cables give a better sound (in fact I suspect it to be hasardous).
Sorry for my english
In my system the big difference was upgrading my Pioneer N-30 streamer to microRendu with LPS-1 power supply. Sounds marvelous [emoji2].