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Thread: Having fun with the NAD M33 …
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May 31, 2021, 08:35 AM #1
Having fun with the NAD M33 …
I was tired of waiting, so I have my brother’s M33 integrated until my gear shows up.
Holy cow! This thing does it all and more. It’s not perfect but I love having full control over it using BluOS. It’s using the new purifi class D modules and is still class D, but it sounds great.
I have all my services programmed in but still need to add some of my favorite streaming links via the custom input settings.
These streamers/integrateds have come so far. It doesn’t weigh a ton and has so many functions.
I don’t know yet if it could be an only piece/system but I think it’s close.
One of the really cool features is having Radio Paradise with MQA streaming. I know MQA is very polarizing around here but having it available is pretty awesome to me. I’m not always actively listening and love music playing almost all the time.
The M33 makes it a pleasure.
M33 - NAD ElectronicsLast edited by joeinid; May 31, 2021 at 08:51 AM.
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May 31, 2021, 01:51 PM #2
Re: Having fun with the NAD M33 …
Joe - I'm glad you've managed to get your hands on a NAD M33 at last and that you are enjoying it. Lots to learn about it and sometimes useful features are not mentioned or explained well in the rather feeble (online only) User Guide. It took me a while to find out that the unit can be woken up from standby using the app.
Have you run Dirac Live yet? I'm not convinced that this actually improves the fidelity of the sound although the response curve can be flattened for improved accuracy. My own findings with Dirac (and the other DSPs that I've tried where it's built-in to a 2-channel amp) is that the additional signal processing takes away a little of the excitement and lifelikeness of the music (or ME Factor as Jim Smith describes it) from the music, despite the fact that the supplied version doesn't "correct" the higher frequencies. I think the better your own speakers and the better you've set them up, the less need there is for DSP. I prefer the filter off.
PeterSources - NAD M50.2 (streamer, CD player, CD ripper, hard drive music store)
Amplification - NAD M33 all-in-one, NAD M12 preamp (in reserve), Atma-Sphere Class D monos
Speakers - Avantgarde Duo XD, Avantgarde Duo (2006) - both aesthetically modified
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May 31, 2021, 02:35 PM #3
Re: Having fun with the NAD M33 …
Hi Peter,
I have not played with any of the dsp or Dirac settings. I did find some treble and bass settings which I left off. I’m impressed with all the features already and am impressed by the sound of it. It’s definitely some of the best Class D, but it’s still class D. It has definitely come a long way.
I got it going yesterday around noon and it definitely sounds better since then. I’m enjoying it a lot. I’m not sure how crazy with setup I’ll get but it’s nice to know what it can do.
I also have access to an NAD 658 which is the streaming part minus the amp section. That with a nice AB or A amp could be killer.Fleetwood Deville by Oswald Mills Audio, Vienna Acoustics Haydn Jubilee, Wharfedale Linton w/ stands, Klipsch RB-75, Klipsch RP-160M.
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September 22, 2021, 02:33 PM #4
Re: Having fun with the NAD M33 …
I am going to try one of the separate amplifiers. Everything I have read about the Purifi has me intrigued. I think it might be a good match for my system!
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September 22, 2021, 02:46 PM #5
Re: Having fun with the NAD M33 …
Please let us know what you think. Long break in and always on is important, IMO. They are really good.
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September 22, 2021, 02:57 PM #6
Re: Having fun with the NAD M33 …
What speakers were you using that M33 on joe ..?
* An Audiophile is only as old as his latest Class D incarnation *
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September 22, 2021, 02:59 PM #7
Re: Having fun with the NAD M33 …
Do you have a particular amp in mind? There are a number of brands that simply put a case around the basic Purifi module, together with source selection and output connectors. The big-name brand that has worked with Purifi to optimise their design and builds the module under licence themselves is NAD. Their C298 power amp is arguably the best route to follow as it is a well respected brand and re-selling price if you don't like it is likely to be greater than the other brands. Sound quality will certainly be top-notch too. I've not looked for used C298s but they may come up on sites such as HiFiShark, but take care as this site simply gathers together every piece of used equipment advertised anywhere in the world and this includes some scammers. It's still probably the best place to start your search and you can ask to be alerted if anything matching what you want turns up. T&A, the big German maker has very recently announced that their new 200 Series will include a Purifi-based power amp, but I suspect the price will be well up from NAD's. Good luck and I'd be very interested in your assessment. Peter
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September 22, 2021, 03:12 PM #8
Re: Having fun with the NAD M33 …
I bought one for the bedroom to use with a pair of vintage KEF 104/2 speakers. Sounds fantastic, the Swiss Army knife of integrated amps.
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September 22, 2021, 04:15 PM #9
Re: Having fun with the NAD M33 …
Last edited by joeinid; September 22, 2021 at 04:17 PM.
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Topping D90, RME Audio ADI-2 DAC FS, ModWright Ultimate Sony XA-5400ES.
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September 22, 2021, 05:07 PM #10
Re: Having fun with the NAD M33 …
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September 22, 2021, 05:27 PM #11
Re: Having fun with the NAD M33 …
Marty
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MSB Premier
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PS Audio Powerplant 15
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September 22, 2021, 07:56 PM #12
Re: Having fun with the NAD M33 …
The dealer I am getting it from said they have been back ordered since July. They have a shipment with ETA of end of September. With my order every one that they have coming are now spoken for.
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“One of the great challenges in life is knowing enough to think you're right but not enough to know you're wrong”
"You can't use reason to convince anyone out of an argument that they didn't use reason to get into"
― Neil deGrasse Tyson
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September 23, 2021, 07:59 PM #13
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Re: Having fun with the NAD M33 …
It seems to me that NAD is gaining quite a good rep. Reviews of their components have been very positive.
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September 27, 2021, 02:07 PM #14
Re: Having fun with the NAD M33 …
It is kind of funny that we are still talking about a company gaining a good reputation... a company that will celebrate their 50th anniversary next year. But I agree, it seems like their reputation has been going up lately ...
I remember back in the day they were always known for good solid value gear. I think the same could be said today but I think they may have moved to a higher level of gear!.McIntosh C49, MC152, MR85, R778 | T+A DAC 8 DSD | KEF LS50 Meta w/S2, KC62 (x2) | Rega RP8, Ania Pro, NEO PSU | Technics SL-1500C | Audio Technica VM750ML | Hexmat Eclipse, Yellow Bird, Molekula, Molekula Mini | Pro-Ject VC-E | Falcon NW PC Server (Roon Core & HQPlayer) | Microsoft Surface Pro 6 (Roon Controller) | Wyred 4 Sound ISO Recovery, DC Recovery | Abyss Diana Phi | Schiit Jotunheim 2 | Astell&Kern SE200 | Oppo BDP105
“One of the great challenges in life is knowing enough to think you're right but not enough to know you're wrong”
"You can't use reason to convince anyone out of an argument that they didn't use reason to get into"
― Neil deGrasse Tyson
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September 27, 2021, 02:49 PM #15
Re: Having fun with the NAD M33 …
Marty
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PS Audio Powerplant 15
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September 28, 2021, 09:10 AM #16
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September 28, 2021, 10:27 AM #17
Re: Having fun with the NAD M33 …
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September 28, 2021, 11:17 AM #18
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Re: Having fun with the NAD M33 …
NAD has certainly been consistent over the years. in providing AFFORDABLE COMPONENTS AT GOOD VALUE.
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September 28, 2021, 11:27 AM #19
Re: Having fun with the NAD M33 …
I agree, but in recent years NAD has wanted to move into true hi-fi by introducing their Master Series with huge success. Most of their M series have been sprinkled with industry awards, with probably the M33 struggling most under the weight of these gongs. I was lucky in ordering early and securing a good dealer discount on my M33, but there were a few annoying teething troubles with early examples, all now sorted out by firmware updates. Thanks NAD for responding so promptly to these problems.
The C Series that includes the Purifi-based C298 are still very good, although there are obvious areas of cost savings in things like casework, sockets, etc. PeterSources - NAD M50.2 (streamer, CD player, CD ripper, hard drive music store)
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September 28, 2021, 12:03 PM #20
Re: Having fun with the NAD M33 …
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September 28, 2021, 12:10 PM #21
Re: Having fun with the NAD M33 …
The C 298 has been garnering several awards also. Recently receiving an A+ rating on Stereophile's recommended list.
The C 298 also just received 2021-2022 EISA award:
"NAD Electronics, a leading manufacturer of premium home audio and video products, announced today that the C 298 Power Amplifier, featuring the lauded Eigentakt amplification technology has won the 2021-22 EISA Award for Power Amplifiers. EISA, the Expert Imaging and Sound Association, is an independent body of over 50 specialty electronics publications from around the world. The award winners are chosen as the best in their category from the thousands of products tested and reviewed by EISA member publications over the year."
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“One of the great challenges in life is knowing enough to think you're right but not enough to know you're wrong”
"You can't use reason to convince anyone out of an argument that they didn't use reason to get into"
― Neil deGrasse Tyson
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September 30, 2021, 08:39 AM #22
Re: Having fun with the NAD M33 …
The NAD has been delayed another two weeks... I assume it will probably be more. It does not matter how many awards it receives if they cannot supply them. I have an e-mail in to the dealer. I might switch to something else, probably not another amplifier because the MBL is an excellent amplifier, I was simply Purifi curious. We will see.
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“One of the great challenges in life is knowing enough to think you're right but not enough to know you're wrong”
"You can't use reason to convince anyone out of an argument that they didn't use reason to get into"
― Neil deGrasse Tyson
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October 2, 2021, 08:50 PM #23
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Re: Having fun with the NAD M33 …
Might I suggest the VTV Eigentakt for around half the price? I bought one to try and am loving it. Right here in the USA.
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October 2, 2021, 09:41 PM #24
Re: Having fun with the NAD M33 …
I have decided to wait for the NAD. Hopefully it won't get delayed again.
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“One of the great challenges in life is knowing enough to think you're right but not enough to know you're wrong”
"You can't use reason to convince anyone out of an argument that they didn't use reason to get into"
― Neil deGrasse Tyson
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October 3, 2021, 08:16 AM #25
Re: Having fun with the NAD M33 …
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October 4, 2021, 05:06 PM #26
Re: Having fun with the NAD M33 …
It is crazy... supply chains are way behind... we have had new appliances on order since May... the latest they are saying maybe November... crazy... how do these companies even stay in business?
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“One of the great challenges in life is knowing enough to think you're right but not enough to know you're wrong”
"You can't use reason to convince anyone out of an argument that they didn't use reason to get into"
― Neil deGrasse Tyson
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October 4, 2021, 05:52 PM #27
Re: Having fun with the NAD M33 …
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October 4, 2021, 06:44 PM #28
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October 7, 2021, 08:27 AM #29
Re: Having fun with the NAD M33 …
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October 7, 2021, 10:07 AM #30
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Re: Having fun with the NAD M33 …
With the current supply chain issues companies like NAD are sending their products to the dealers who turn the most volume first. Both Audio Advisor and Crutchfield both have the amp you are waiting on in stock for shipping today. The bigger you are with some of these companies the faster you get product. These companies will survive as they will supply to those who turn inventory over instead of keep them sitting in the back room.
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October 7, 2021, 11:07 AM #31
Re: Having fun with the NAD M33 …
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October 7, 2021, 11:28 AM #32
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Re: Having fun with the NAD M33 …
I had two NAD D3020 integrated amps. One of them stopped working shortly after 3 year warranty had expired. Service company said that that unit was hard to work on. The estimated cost for repair made it not worth repairing.
The other amp is still working but I rarely use it. It does what it is supposed to do I guess.
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October 7, 2021, 11:56 AM #33
Re: Having fun with the NAD M33 …
I assume that every company has had some issues over the years. The D3020 came out in 1978 and was quite revolutionary for its time, to say the least, and certainly looks like it would be very difficult to work on inside. NAD currently has five year warranties on the power amps.
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If one is still working I would say that is quite a good statement for the company. I have never actually owned a NAD piece, but I have followed their products and reputation over the many years (50 actually officially in a couple months).
The C 298 is receiving extreme high ratings (Stereophile A+ and winner of the 2021-2022 ESIA award for power amps) and I think the tech is probably going to be the path in the future for mid/high end audio. I am looking forward to receiving the amp and seeing how it integrates in my system. It should be a good match.McIntosh C49, MC152, MR85, R778 | T+A DAC 8 DSD | KEF LS50 Meta w/S2, KC62 (x2) | Rega RP8, Ania Pro, NEO PSU | Technics SL-1500C | Audio Technica VM750ML | Hexmat Eclipse, Yellow Bird, Molekula, Molekula Mini | Pro-Ject VC-E | Falcon NW PC Server (Roon Core & HQPlayer) | Microsoft Surface Pro 6 (Roon Controller) | Wyred 4 Sound ISO Recovery, DC Recovery | Abyss Diana Phi | Schiit Jotunheim 2 | Astell&Kern SE200 | Oppo BDP105
“One of the great challenges in life is knowing enough to think you're right but not enough to know you're wrong”
"You can't use reason to convince anyone out of an argument that they didn't use reason to get into"
― Neil deGrasse Tyson
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October 14, 2021, 05:53 PM #34
Re: Having fun with the NAD M33 …
So the distributor just received the shipment of the C 298's and will be at my dealer soon. He stated that the amplifiers just now came back in stock and if other dealers are listing them as "in stock" they must be pre-listing knowing that their shipment is finally just around the corner. I have no reason to not believe him. He has been straight with me in several dealings, but who knows. Maybe Crutchfield and Music Direct have a different distribution channel .
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October 14, 2021, 05:59 PM #35
Re: Having fun with the NAD M33 …
Marty
Aurender N20 / SonicTransporter i7 / Roon
MSB Premier
Constellation Inspiration Preamp 1.0 / Mono 1.0
Dynaudio Confidence 50 / SVS SB13 Ultra
PS Audio Powerplant 15
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October 14, 2021, 06:10 PM #36
Re: Having fun with the NAD M33 …
I look forward to trying it out. The Purifier tech is supposed to be a real nice step forward. I think both NAD, and the awards they has received, and T+A's support pushed it over the edge for me to try it out!
McIntosh C49, MC152, MR85, R778 | T+A DAC 8 DSD | KEF LS50 Meta w/S2, KC62 (x2) | Rega RP8, Ania Pro, NEO PSU | Technics SL-1500C | Audio Technica VM750ML | Hexmat Eclipse, Yellow Bird, Molekula, Molekula Mini | Pro-Ject VC-E | Falcon NW PC Server (Roon Core & HQPlayer) | Microsoft Surface Pro 6 (Roon Controller) | Wyred 4 Sound ISO Recovery, DC Recovery | Abyss Diana Phi | Schiit Jotunheim 2 | Astell&Kern SE200 | Oppo BDP105
“One of the great challenges in life is knowing enough to think you're right but not enough to know you're wrong”
"You can't use reason to convince anyone out of an argument that they didn't use reason to get into"
― Neil deGrasse Tyson
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October 20, 2021, 01:33 PM #37
Re: Having fun with the NAD M33 …
The new amplifier is finally shipped! It should be fun.
McIntosh C49, MC152, MR85, R778 | T+A DAC 8 DSD | KEF LS50 Meta w/S2, KC62 (x2) | Rega RP8, Ania Pro, NEO PSU | Technics SL-1500C | Audio Technica VM750ML | Hexmat Eclipse, Yellow Bird, Molekula, Molekula Mini | Pro-Ject VC-E | Falcon NW PC Server (Roon Core & HQPlayer) | Microsoft Surface Pro 6 (Roon Controller) | Wyred 4 Sound ISO Recovery, DC Recovery | Abyss Diana Phi | Schiit Jotunheim 2 | Astell&Kern SE200 | Oppo BDP105
“One of the great challenges in life is knowing enough to think you're right but not enough to know you're wrong”
"You can't use reason to convince anyone out of an argument that they didn't use reason to get into"
― Neil deGrasse Tyson
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October 21, 2021, 05:50 AM #38
Re: Having fun with the NAD M33 …
Sources - NAD M50.2 (streamer, CD player, CD ripper, hard drive music store)
Amplification - NAD M33 all-in-one, NAD M12 preamp (in reserve), Atma-Sphere Class D monos
Speakers - Avantgarde Duo XD, Avantgarde Duo (2006) - both aesthetically modified
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October 21, 2021, 08:54 AM #39
Re: Having fun with the NAD M33 …
Thanks... I am looking forward to giving it a go.
McIntosh C49, MC152, MR85, R778 | T+A DAC 8 DSD | KEF LS50 Meta w/S2, KC62 (x2) | Rega RP8, Ania Pro, NEO PSU | Technics SL-1500C | Audio Technica VM750ML | Hexmat Eclipse, Yellow Bird, Molekula, Molekula Mini | Pro-Ject VC-E | Falcon NW PC Server (Roon Core & HQPlayer) | Microsoft Surface Pro 6 (Roon Controller) | Wyred 4 Sound ISO Recovery, DC Recovery | Abyss Diana Phi | Schiit Jotunheim 2 | Astell&Kern SE200 | Oppo BDP105
“One of the great challenges in life is knowing enough to think you're right but not enough to know you're wrong”
"You can't use reason to convince anyone out of an argument that they didn't use reason to get into"
― Neil deGrasse Tyson
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