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    Having fun with the NAD M33 Ö

    I was tired of waiting, so I have my brotherís M33 integrated until my gear shows up.

    Holy cow! This thing does it all and more. Itís not perfect but I love having full control over it using BluOS. Itís using the new purifi class D modules and is still class D, but it sounds great.

    I have all my services programmed in but still need to add some of my favorite streaming links via the custom input settings.

    These streamers/integrateds have come so far. It doesnít weigh a ton and has so many functions.

    I donít know yet if it could be an only piece/system but I think itís close.

    One of the really cool features is having Radio Paradise with MQA streaming. I know MQA is very polarizing around here but having it available is pretty awesome to me. Iím not always actively listening and love music playing almost all the time.

    The M33 makes it a pleasure.


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    NAD C 658 streamer.

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    Re: Having fun with the NAD M33 Ö

    Joe - I'm glad you've managed to get your hands on a NAD M33 at last and that you are enjoying it. Lots to learn about it and sometimes useful features are not mentioned or explained well in the rather feeble (online only) User Guide. It took me a while to find out that the unit can be woken up from standby using the app.

    Have you run Dirac Live yet? I'm not convinced that this actually improves the fidelity of the sound although the response curve can be flattened for improved accuracy. My own findings with Dirac (and the other DSPs that I've tried where it's built-in to a 2-channel amp) is that the additional signal processing takes away a little of the excitement and lifelikeness of the music (or ME Factor as Jim Smith describes it) from the music, despite the fact that the supplied version doesn't "correct" the higher frequencies. I think the better your own speakers and the better you've set them up, the less need there is for DSP. I prefer the filter off.

    Peter
    Sources - NAD M50.2 (streamer, CD player, CD ripper, hard drive music store)
    Amplification - NAD M33, NAD M12, Consonance Cyber 845 monoblocs
    Speakers - Avantgarde Duo XD, Avantgarde Duo (2006) - both aesthetically modified, Martin Logan Expression 13A (now sold)

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    Re: Having fun with the NAD M33 Ö

    Hi Peter,

    I have not played with any of the dsp or Dirac settings. I did find some treble and bass settings which I left off. Iím impressed with all the features already and am impressed by the sound of it. Itís definitely some of the best Class D, but itís still class D. It has definitely come a long way.

    I got it going yesterday around noon and it definitely sounds better since then. Iím enjoying it a lot. Iím not sure how crazy with setup Iíll get but itís nice to know what it can do.

    I also have access to an NAD 658 which is the streaming part minus the amp section. That with a nice AB or A amp could be killer.
    Fleetwood Deville by Oswald Mills Audio, Vienna Acoustics Haydn Jubilee, Wharfedale Linton w/ stands, Klipsch RB-75, Klipsch RP-160M.

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    NAD C 658 streamer.

    First Watt SIT-3, Job 250 Monos, NuForce STA200, AkitikA GT-102 amp, ASL Wave monos, Dennis Had 45 monos. Absolute Audio Labs PCF 25 amp (improved First Watt F7 super clone)

    RME Audio ADI-2 DAC FS, ModWright Ultimate Sony XA-5400ES.

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    Re: Having fun with the NAD M33 Ö

    I am going to try one of the separate amplifiers. Everything I have read about the Purifi has me intrigued. I think it might be a good match for my system!
    Amplifiers: Hattor AMRG Trans, Tube Active Stage | NAD C298 | MBL 8006 B | McIntosh MP100
    Vinyl: Rega RP8, Ania Pro, NEO PSU | Hexmat Eclipse, Yellow Bird | Technics SL-1500C | AT VM740ML
    Digital: T+A DAC 8 DSD | Falcon NW PC | Microsoft Surface Pro 6 | Roon & HQPlayer
    Headphones: Woo Audio WA22 (2nd Gen) | A&K SE-200 | Abyss Diana Phi | Focal Clear MG
    Speakers: KEF LS50 Meta w/S2 | Rythmik L12 (x2)
    Other: Oppo BDP-105 | Magnum Dynalab FT-101A, ST-2

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    Re: Having fun with the NAD M33 Ö

    Please let us know what you think. Long break in and always on is important, IMO. They are really good.
    Fleetwood Deville by Oswald Mills Audio, Vienna Acoustics Haydn Jubilee, Wharfedale Linton w/ stands, Klipsch RB-75, Klipsch RP-160M.

    Job INTegrated. Luxman L-595a, Enleum AMP-23r (new/improved Bakoon 13r equivalent) on order. https://enleum.com/

    NAD C 658 streamer.

    First Watt SIT-3, Job 250 Monos, NuForce STA200, AkitikA GT-102 amp, ASL Wave monos, Dennis Had 45 monos. Absolute Audio Labs PCF 25 amp (improved First Watt F7 super clone)

    RME Audio ADI-2 DAC FS, ModWright Ultimate Sony XA-5400ES.

    Burmester 948, McIntosh MCLK12, Kimber Kable, Siltech, Cardas, Avanti Audio cables.

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    Re: Having fun with the NAD M33 Ö

    What speakers were you using that M33 on joe ..?
    * An Audiophile is only as old as his tweeters ..!!

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    Re: Having fun with the NAD M33 Ö

    Quote Originally Posted by Randy Myers View Post
    I am going to try one of the separate amplifiers. Everything I have read about the Purifi has me intrigued. I think it might be a good match for my system!
    Do you have a particular amp in mind? There are a number of brands that simply put a case around the basic Purifi module, together with source selection and output connectors. The big-name brand that has worked with Purifi to optimise their design and builds the module under licence themselves is NAD. Their C298 power amp is arguably the best route to follow as it is a well respected brand and re-selling price if you don't like it is likely to be greater than the other brands. Sound quality will certainly be top-notch too. I've not looked for used C298s but they may come up on sites such as HiFiShark, but take care as this site simply gathers together every piece of used equipment advertised anywhere in the world and this includes some scammers. It's still probably the best place to start your search and you can ask to be alerted if anything matching what you want turns up. T&A, the big German maker has very recently announced that their new 200 Series will include a Purifi-based power amp, but I suspect the price will be well up from NAD's. Good luck and I'd be very interested in your assessment. Peter
    Sources - NAD M50.2 (streamer, CD player, CD ripper, hard drive music store)
    Amplification - NAD M33, NAD M12, Consonance Cyber 845 monoblocs
    Speakers - Avantgarde Duo XD, Avantgarde Duo (2006) - both aesthetically modified, Martin Logan Expression 13A (now sold)

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    Re: Having fun with the NAD M33 Ö

    I bought one for the bedroom to use with a pair of vintage KEF 104/2 speakers. Sounds fantastic, the Swiss Army knife of integrated amps.
    Marty

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    Re: Having fun with the NAD M33 Ö

    Quote Originally Posted by a.wayne View Post
    What speakers were you using that M33 on joe ..?
    Avantgarde Duo, Vienna Acoustics Haydn and Fleetwood Deville. The Devilles sound especially great with the M33.
    Last edited by joeinid; September 22, 2021 at 04:17 PM.
    Fleetwood Deville by Oswald Mills Audio, Vienna Acoustics Haydn Jubilee, Wharfedale Linton w/ stands, Klipsch RB-75, Klipsch RP-160M.

    Job INTegrated. Luxman L-595a, Enleum AMP-23r (new/improved Bakoon 13r equivalent) on order. https://enleum.com/

    NAD C 658 streamer.

    First Watt SIT-3, Job 250 Monos, NuForce STA200, AkitikA GT-102 amp, ASL Wave monos, Dennis Had 45 monos. Absolute Audio Labs PCF 25 amp (improved First Watt F7 super clone)

    RME Audio ADI-2 DAC FS, ModWright Ultimate Sony XA-5400ES.

    Burmester 948, McIntosh MCLK12, Kimber Kable, Siltech, Cardas, Avanti Audio cables.

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    Re: Having fun with the NAD M33 Ö

    Quote Originally Posted by Hear Here View Post
    Do you have a particular amp in mind? There are a number of brands that simply put a case around the basic Purifi module, together with source selection and output connectors. The big-name brand that has worked with Purifi to optimise their design and builds the module under licence themselves is NAD. Their C298 power amp is arguably the best route to follow as it is a well respected brand and re-selling price if you don't like it is likely to be greater than the other brands. Sound quality will certainly be top-notch too. I've not looked for used C298s but they may come up on sites such as HiFiShark, but take care as this site simply gathers together every piece of used equipment advertised anywhere in the world and this includes some scammers. It's still probably the best place to start your search and you can ask to be alerted if anything matching what you want turns up. T&A, the big German maker has very recently announced that their new 200 Series will include a Purifi-based power amp, but I suspect the price will be well up from NAD's. Good luck and I'd be very interested in your assessment. Peter
    NAD C298... figured this was understood because it is the amplifier used in the M33 ... big problem is availability now...
    Amplifiers: Hattor AMRG Trans, Tube Active Stage | NAD C298 | MBL 8006 B | McIntosh MP100
    Vinyl: Rega RP8, Ania Pro, NEO PSU | Hexmat Eclipse, Yellow Bird | Technics SL-1500C | AT VM740ML
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    Re: Having fun with the NAD M33 Ö

    So true Randy. My local dealer said he has no clue when he will get more stock. Must be the chip shortage.

    Quote Originally Posted by Randy Myers View Post
    NAD C298... figured this was understood because it is the amplifier used in the M33 ... big problem is availability now...
    Marty

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    Re: Having fun with the NAD M33 Ö

    The dealer I am getting it from said they have been back ordered since July. They have a shipment with ETA of end of September. With my order every one that they have coming are now spoken for.
    Amplifiers: Hattor AMRG Trans, Tube Active Stage | NAD C298 | MBL 8006 B | McIntosh MP100
    Vinyl: Rega RP8, Ania Pro, NEO PSU | Hexmat Eclipse, Yellow Bird | Technics SL-1500C | AT VM740ML
    Digital: T+A DAC 8 DSD | Falcon NW PC | Microsoft Surface Pro 6 | Roon & HQPlayer
    Headphones: Woo Audio WA22 (2nd Gen) | A&K SE-200 | Abyss Diana Phi | Focal Clear MG
    Speakers: KEF LS50 Meta w/S2 | Rythmik L12 (x2)
    Other: Oppo BDP-105 | Magnum Dynalab FT-101A, ST-2

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    Re: Having fun with the NAD M33 Ö

    It seems to me that NAD is gaining quite a good rep. Reviews of their components have been very positive.
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