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    Help Me Pick a Surround Pre-Amp/Processor

    So for 2021 I'll be looking to upgrade my Marantz AV8801. My TV and Oppo UDP-205 are 4K and would like to finish it off with a new AV Pre/Pro.

    I very happy with my Marantz AV8801 so I'm leaning on sticking with the Marantz brand but I could be swayed.

    The small list of contenders are the Marantz AV8806 (when it gets released) the Marantz AV7706 (it should sound and have better picture quality than my AV8801?) and finally the Yamaha AVENTAGE CX-A5200.

    Please feel free to recommend others. The AV8806 would be at top of my budget but would love to keep it below.
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    Speakers: Von Schweikert VR-5 Anniversary MK II Front L/R, LCR-35 Center, VR-1 Rear L/R Sub: JL Audio F113
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    Cartridges: Ortofon Cadenza Black, Lyra Helikon Mono Digital Source: Oppo UDP-205 DAC: Bryston BDA-3 Music Server: ​Aurender N100H
    SSP: Marantz AV8801 Cables: Wireworld Electra 7 (P) Wireworld Eclipse 7 (I) Wireworld Eclipse 6 and 7 Biwired (S) Wireworld Platinum Starlight 7 (USB) AC Power Regeneration: PS Audio DirectStream P15 Power Plant and Shunyata Denali 6000s V2.

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    Re: Help Me Pick a Surround Pre-Amp/Processor

    I've had my Monoprice Monolith HTP-1 for a couple of months now. Overall, i'd say it's at least as good sonically as any other pre-pro in the sub-$5k range. Its headline feature is Dirac Live, including the option to purchase multi-sub Bass Control. My personal opinion is that Dirac produces a better result than Audessy or Anthem Room Correction. It's built by ATI (designed too?), which lends some street credibility that what's inside is worthy. If you go in for measurements, the guys over at the forum that measure everything seem to think it performed pretty well for an AV device.

    Only issues I've had so far are software based, and mostly of the nitpicky variety, and Monoprice has done a nice job of rolling out firmware fixes almost monthly.

    Other possibility might be the upcoming Anthem AVM70,
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    Streamer/Server: Aurender N100SC; Disc Player: Panasonic DB-UP9000; Surround Pre/Pro: Monoprice Monolith HTP-1; Power Amps: Apollon NC1200SL (custom 3-channel w/Sparkos SS2590 op amps), Apollon AS3600 6-channel; Speakers: Focal Kanta No. 3, Kanta Center, 300 ICW8 (x6); Subwoofer: Rythmik F18SE (x2); Cables: Wireworld, BlueJeans; Power: Torus RM20, Furman Elite 20PFi; Room Correction: Dirac Live w/ Bass Control; Video: Sony 77" A9G OLED

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    Re: Help Me Pick a Surround Pre-Amp/Processor

    Quote Originally Posted by 2FlyingYorkies View Post
    I've had my Monoprice Monolith HTP-1 for a couple of months now. Overall, i'd say it's at least as good sonically as any other pre-pro in the sub-$5k range. Its headline feature is Dirac Live, including the option to purchase multi-sub Bass Control. My personal opinion is that Dirac produces a better result than Audessy or Anthem Room Correction. It's built by ATI (designed too?), which lends some street credibility that what's inside is worthy. If you go in for measurements, the guys over at the forum that measure everything seem to think it performed pretty well for an AV device.

    Only issues I've had so far are software based, and mostly of the nitpicky variety, and Monoprice has done a nice job of rolling out firmware fixes almost monthly.

    Other possibility might be the upcoming Anthem AVM70,
    Thanks Jeff.... Iím a big fan of Monoprice. Iíve been purchasing from them for many years. Iíve always been hesitant to purchase anything electronic from them just because I never listened to any of their products. However the Monoprice Monolith HTP-1 has me interested. I see nothing but good reviews from purchasers.

    Iíll most definitely add the Monoprice Monolith HTP-1 to my list. My question is are there any dealers that carry the Monoprice Monolith HTP-1 or is it exclusively from Monoprice?
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    Speakers: Von Schweikert VR-5 Anniversary MK II Front L/R, LCR-35 Center, VR-1 Rear L/R Sub: JL Audio F113
    Amps: PS Audio BHK Signature 300 Mono, McIntosh MC207 Preamp: PS Audio BHK Signature and Gold Note PH-10 Phono Stage/PSU-10 Power Supply Turntable: VPI HR-X 12.7 TONEARM (2) and SDS
    Cartridges: Ortofon Cadenza Black, Lyra Helikon Mono Digital Source: Oppo UDP-205 DAC: Bryston BDA-3 Music Server: ​Aurender N100H
    SSP: Marantz AV8801 Cables: Wireworld Electra 7 (P) Wireworld Eclipse 7 (I) Wireworld Eclipse 6 and 7 Biwired (S) Wireworld Platinum Starlight 7 (USB) AC Power Regeneration: PS Audio DirectStream P15 Power Plant and Shunyata Denali 6000s V2.

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    Re: Help Me Pick a Surround Pre-Amp/Processor

    Itís exclusively direct from the Monoprice website. No auditions or dealers. That was my biggest apprehension about making the purchase, actually.
    Jeff

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    Streamer/Server: Aurender N100H; Disc Player: Oppo UDP-205; DAC: PS Audio Directstream Jr; Preamp: Wyred 4 Sound STP-SE Stage 2; Power Amp: ATI AT542NC; Speakers: Focal Sopra No. 3; Cables: Wireworld, Kimber, Cullin; Power: Ansuz Mainz8 X-TC, PS Audio Dectet, Furutech outlets

    Basement Media Room
    Streamer/Server: Aurender N100SC; Disc Player: Panasonic DB-UP9000; Surround Pre/Pro: Monoprice Monolith HTP-1; Power Amps: Apollon NC1200SL (custom 3-channel w/Sparkos SS2590 op amps), Apollon AS3600 6-channel; Speakers: Focal Kanta No. 3, Kanta Center, 300 ICW8 (x6); Subwoofer: Rythmik F18SE (x2); Cables: Wireworld, BlueJeans; Power: Torus RM20, Furman Elite 20PFi; Room Correction: Dirac Live w/ Bass Control; Video: Sony 77" A9G OLED

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    Re: Help Me Pick a Surround Pre-Amp/Processor

    Thanks Jeff!
    Paul



    Speakers: Von Schweikert VR-5 Anniversary MK II Front L/R, LCR-35 Center, VR-1 Rear L/R Sub: JL Audio F113
    Amps: PS Audio BHK Signature 300 Mono, McIntosh MC207 Preamp: PS Audio BHK Signature and Gold Note PH-10 Phono Stage/PSU-10 Power Supply Turntable: VPI HR-X 12.7 TONEARM (2) and SDS
    Cartridges: Ortofon Cadenza Black, Lyra Helikon Mono Digital Source: Oppo UDP-205 DAC: Bryston BDA-3 Music Server: ​Aurender N100H
    SSP: Marantz AV8801 Cables: Wireworld Electra 7 (P) Wireworld Eclipse 7 (I) Wireworld Eclipse 6 and 7 Biwired (S) Wireworld Platinum Starlight 7 (USB) AC Power Regeneration: PS Audio DirectStream P15 Power Plant and Shunyata Denali 6000s V2.

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    Re: Help Me Pick a Surround Pre-Amp/Processor

    What is the budget? I have AVM60 for a couple of years now and no complaint whatsoever.

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    Re: Help Me Pick a Surround Pre-Amp/Processor

    Iím very happy with mine:

    M17 V2 - NAD Electronics

    I have the NAD in the family room and the Trinnov in the Home Theater. The NAD is a great performer, better than the Marantz I previously had.
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    Re: Help Me Pick a Surround Pre-Amp/Processor

    Quote Originally Posted by kzhtoo View Post
    What is the budget? I have AVM60 for a couple of years now and no complaint whatsoever.
    I would like to keep in around $4,000 or lower.
    Paul



    Speakers: Von Schweikert VR-5 Anniversary MK II Front L/R, LCR-35 Center, VR-1 Rear L/R Sub: JL Audio F113
    Amps: PS Audio BHK Signature 300 Mono, McIntosh MC207 Preamp: PS Audio BHK Signature and Gold Note PH-10 Phono Stage/PSU-10 Power Supply Turntable: VPI HR-X 12.7 TONEARM (2) and SDS
    Cartridges: Ortofon Cadenza Black, Lyra Helikon Mono Digital Source: Oppo UDP-205 DAC: Bryston BDA-3 Music Server: ​Aurender N100H
    SSP: Marantz AV8801 Cables: Wireworld Electra 7 (P) Wireworld Eclipse 7 (I) Wireworld Eclipse 6 and 7 Biwired (S) Wireworld Platinum Starlight 7 (USB) AC Power Regeneration: PS Audio DirectStream P15 Power Plant and Shunyata Denali 6000s V2.

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    Re: Help Me Pick a Surround Pre-Amp/Processor

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    Iím very happy with mine:

    M17 V2 - NAD Electronics

    I have the NAD in the family room and the Trinnov in the Home Theater. The NAD is a great performer, better than the Marantz I previously had.
    Hi Mike...the NAD looks nice but is a bit over my budget.
    Paul



    Speakers: Von Schweikert VR-5 Anniversary MK II Front L/R, LCR-35 Center, VR-1 Rear L/R Sub: JL Audio F113
    Amps: PS Audio BHK Signature 300 Mono, McIntosh MC207 Preamp: PS Audio BHK Signature and Gold Note PH-10 Phono Stage/PSU-10 Power Supply Turntable: VPI HR-X 12.7 TONEARM (2) and SDS
    Cartridges: Ortofon Cadenza Black, Lyra Helikon Mono Digital Source: Oppo UDP-205 DAC: Bryston BDA-3 Music Server: ​Aurender N100H
    SSP: Marantz AV8801 Cables: Wireworld Electra 7 (P) Wireworld Eclipse 7 (I) Wireworld Eclipse 6 and 7 Biwired (S) Wireworld Platinum Starlight 7 (USB) AC Power Regeneration: PS Audio DirectStream P15 Power Plant and Shunyata Denali 6000s V2.

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    Re: Help Me Pick a Surround Pre-Amp/Processor

    Find a used Bryston SP3 with the 4K upgrade. I still have one and it works great for HT.


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    Re: Help Me Pick a Surround Pre-Amp/Processor

    Any info on 8806?
    I have have 8805. It's pretty good. I recommend.
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