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August 7, 2014, 08:17 AM #1
Hegel vs Pass - can anyone describe the differences?
I've heard a fair amount of Pass gear and have a good feel for their 'house sound'.
How does Hegel compare?Speakers: Magico M-Project w/MPods
Amps: CAT Legend -> CAT JL7s
Analog: Kronos Pro Limited Edition / Black Beauty tonearm / Zyx Universe Premium, Ortofon A95
Digital: Roon->Vivaldi DAC/Upsampler
Cables/Power: Kubala Sosna Elation ICs & SCs / Shunyata Denali 6000T & PC's / Furutech outlets
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August 7, 2014, 08:32 AM #2
Re: Hegel vs Pass - can anyone describe the differences?
Joe has had both, hopefully he will weigh in.
I've demoed the integrated and owned XA160.5's. My Hegel H30's arrive today....I'll let you know.My Systems: http://www.audioshark.org/showthread...481#post158481
"We can hear everything we measure, but we can't measure everything we hear. Let your ears be your guide."
Dealer for: Aqua Hi-Fi, Aurender, AudioQuest Cables & Power Products, Berkeley Audio, Block Audio (distributor), Boulder Amplifiers, Bowers & Wilkins (B&W), Bryston, Clarisys Audio Loudspeakers (distributor), Classe’ Audio, Degritter Record Cleaning Machines, Esoteric, Finite Elemente, FirstWatt, Focal Loudspeakers and Headphones, GigaFoil, Harbeth Loudspeakers, Hegel, HiFi Man, Innuos, ISO Acoustics, Keces Power Supplies, Kharma Loudspeakers and Electronics, Kuzma Turntables, Lumin, Luxman, Magico Loudspeakers, MBL Speakers & Electronics, MSB Technologies, MySonicLabs Phono Cartridges, Nordost Cables, Ortofon, Pass Labs, Quadraspire, Rega Turntables and Electronics, Shunyata Research, STAX, Stein Music Products, Stillpoints, Soulution, VAC, Vicoustics, Viva Audio, VPI Industries, WireWorld Cables.
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August 7, 2014, 10:45 AM #3
Re: Hegel vs Pass - can anyone describe the differences?
I think the Hegel is a wee bit quicker sounding.
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August 7, 2014, 11:00 AM #4
Re: Hegel vs Pass - can anyone describe the differences?
I assume there are more differences than that.
Some things I'd like to know about are tonal balance, glare/distortion, transparency, etc.Speakers: Magico M-Project w/MPods
Amps: CAT Legend -> CAT JL7s
Analog: Kronos Pro Limited Edition / Black Beauty tonearm / Zyx Universe Premium, Ortofon A95
Digital: Roon->Vivaldi DAC/Upsampler
Cables/Power: Kubala Sosna Elation ICs & SCs / Shunyata Denali 6000T & PC's / Furutech outlets
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August 7, 2014, 11:42 AM #5
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Re: Hegel vs Pass - can anyone describe the differences?
I'd like to hear the same comparo, myself.
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August 7, 2014, 11:50 AM #6
Re: Hegel vs Pass - can anyone describe the differences?
The H30 definitely feels quicker. I had Pass XA100.5's. The bass is tighter and more solid on the H30. There is way more control. It has been a while since I had the Pass but I truly prefer the H30. The H30 has a big, open, clear sound with a touch of sweetness. No harshness or grain with a full meat on the bone tone. Better than Burmester without the nervousness. It's really not a fair comparison. I absolutely love my H30. The H30 runs a little warm. Heat sink temps are c. 100F to 120F. You know the Pass is HOT, HOT, HOT.
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Fleetwood Deville by Oswald Mills Audio, Vienna Acoustics Haydn Jubilee, Wharfedale Linton w/ stands, Klipsch RB-75, Klipsch RP-160M.
Job INTegrated. Luxman L-595aSE
NAD C 658 streamer.
First Watt SIT-3, Job 250 Monos, NuForce STA200, AkitikA GT-102 amp, ASL Wave monos, Dennis Had 45 monos. Absolute Audio Labs PCF 25 amp (improved First Watt F7 super clone)
Topping D90, RME Audio ADI-2 DAC FS, ModWright Ultimate Sony XA-5400ES.
Burmester 948, McIntosh MCLK12, Kimber Kable, Siltech, Cardas, Avanti Audio cables.
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August 7, 2014, 03:45 PM #7
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August 7, 2014, 03:59 PM #8
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August 7, 2014, 04:23 PM #9
Re: Hegel vs Pass - can anyone describe the differences?
My Systems: http://www.audioshark.org/showthread...481#post158481
"We can hear everything we measure, but we can't measure everything we hear. Let your ears be your guide."
Dealer for: Aqua Hi-Fi, Aurender, AudioQuest Cables & Power Products, Berkeley Audio, Block Audio (distributor), Boulder Amplifiers, Bowers & Wilkins (B&W), Bryston, Clarisys Audio Loudspeakers (distributor), Classe’ Audio, Degritter Record Cleaning Machines, Esoteric, Finite Elemente, FirstWatt, Focal Loudspeakers and Headphones, GigaFoil, Harbeth Loudspeakers, Hegel, HiFi Man, Innuos, ISO Acoustics, Keces Power Supplies, Kharma Loudspeakers and Electronics, Kuzma Turntables, Lumin, Luxman, Magico Loudspeakers, MBL Speakers & Electronics, MSB Technologies, MySonicLabs Phono Cartridges, Nordost Cables, Ortofon, Pass Labs, Quadraspire, Rega Turntables and Electronics, Shunyata Research, STAX, Stein Music Products, Stillpoints, Soulution, VAC, Vicoustics, Viva Audio, VPI Industries, WireWorld Cables.
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August 7, 2014, 08:13 PM #10
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August 7, 2014, 08:16 PM #11My Systems: http://www.audioshark.org/showthread...481#post158481
"We can hear everything we measure, but we can't measure everything we hear. Let your ears be your guide."
Dealer for: Aqua Hi-Fi, Aurender, AudioQuest Cables & Power Products, Berkeley Audio, Block Audio (distributor), Boulder Amplifiers, Bowers & Wilkins (B&W), Bryston, Clarisys Audio Loudspeakers (distributor), Classe’ Audio, Degritter Record Cleaning Machines, Esoteric, Finite Elemente, FirstWatt, Focal Loudspeakers and Headphones, GigaFoil, Harbeth Loudspeakers, Hegel, HiFi Man, Innuos, ISO Acoustics, Keces Power Supplies, Kharma Loudspeakers and Electronics, Kuzma Turntables, Lumin, Luxman, Magico Loudspeakers, MBL Speakers & Electronics, MSB Technologies, MySonicLabs Phono Cartridges, Nordost Cables, Ortofon, Pass Labs, Quadraspire, Rega Turntables and Electronics, Shunyata Research, STAX, Stein Music Products, Stillpoints, Soulution, VAC, Vicoustics, Viva Audio, VPI Industries, WireWorld Cables.
https://suncoastaudio.com/
Phone: 941-932-0282
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Suncoast-Au...1105178279194/
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August 7, 2014, 10:13 PM #12
Re: Hegel vs Pass - can anyone describe the differences?
George
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Aurender ACS10 Music Server > Holo Audio May KTE R2R Ladder DAC > Pass Labs XP-30 Preamp > Pass Labs XA160.5 Class A Mono Blocks > Martin Logan Renaissance ELS 15A Speakers
Powered By 2X BPT 3.5 Signature Plus Ultra Isolators | Shunyata Research Hydra Triton + Typhon | Shunyata Hydra 2 Power Conditioner
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August 11, 2014, 09:19 AM #13
Re: Hegel vs Pass - can anyone describe the differences?
Any update Mike?? Have a chance to listen this weekend?
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August 11, 2014, 09:33 AM #14
Re: Hegel vs Pass - can anyone describe the differences?
Speakers are to arrive today. Until then.... They sure look pretty!
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ImageUploadedByTapatalk1407764025.024548.jpgMy Systems: http://www.audioshark.org/showthread...481#post158481
"We can hear everything we measure, but we can't measure everything we hear. Let your ears be your guide."
Dealer for: Aqua Hi-Fi, Aurender, AudioQuest Cables & Power Products, Berkeley Audio, Block Audio (distributor), Boulder Amplifiers, Bowers & Wilkins (B&W), Bryston, Clarisys Audio Loudspeakers (distributor), Classe’ Audio, Degritter Record Cleaning Machines, Esoteric, Finite Elemente, FirstWatt, Focal Loudspeakers and Headphones, GigaFoil, Harbeth Loudspeakers, Hegel, HiFi Man, Innuos, ISO Acoustics, Keces Power Supplies, Kharma Loudspeakers and Electronics, Kuzma Turntables, Lumin, Luxman, Magico Loudspeakers, MBL Speakers & Electronics, MSB Technologies, MySonicLabs Phono Cartridges, Nordost Cables, Ortofon, Pass Labs, Quadraspire, Rega Turntables and Electronics, Shunyata Research, STAX, Stein Music Products, Stillpoints, Soulution, VAC, Vicoustics, Viva Audio, VPI Industries, WireWorld Cables.
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Phone: 941-932-0282
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Suncoast-Au...1105178279194/
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August 11, 2014, 09:46 AM #15
Re: Hegel vs Pass - can anyone describe the differences?
Did you leave the tubes in the picture so you wouldn't feel like you were cheating on them with all the BEEFY SS amplification?!?!
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August 11, 2014, 09:50 AM #16
Re: Hegel vs Pass - can anyone describe the differences?
What speakers?
Rance
Synology DS411+II | GigaFOILv4 + Keces P3 Power Supply | Shunyata Alpha Ethernet | Lumin S1 | VAC Master Line Stage | VAC Signature 200 iQ amps | Kharma Elegance dB11-S | SVS PC-4000 subs x 2 | Shunyata 6000/T v2 | Kharma Elegance signal cables| Luminous Audio Technology power cables | Isoacoustics OREA vibration isolators | Solid Tech racks | Vicoustic room treatments | Acoustic Sciences Corporation IsoWall + IsoCeiling construction
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August 11, 2014, 09:50 AM #17
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August 11, 2014, 09:50 AM #18
Re: Hegel vs Pass - can anyone describe the differences?
I'm exactly the opposite...waiting on ampsSpeakers - Magico S5mk2 Integrated - Vitus SIA-025 Analog - Vpi Prime Signature/Ortofon Cadenza Bronze Digital - Lumin A1
Power - Shunyata Denali 6000S/Alpha HC/Alpha Digital Cables - Kimber KS-6063/Nordost Frey IC
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August 11, 2014, 09:52 AM #19
Re: Hegel vs Pass - can anyone describe the differences?
holy crap Tapatalk...how do i link picture like yours mike...with a thumbnail that's clickable
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August 11, 2014, 09:54 AM #20
Re: Hegel vs Pass - can anyone describe the differences?
Sweet!
Fleetwood Deville by Oswald Mills Audio, Vienna Acoustics Haydn Jubilee, Wharfedale Linton w/ stands, Klipsch RB-75, Klipsch RP-160M.
Job INTegrated. Luxman L-595aSE
NAD C 658 streamer.
First Watt SIT-3, Job 250 Monos, NuForce STA200, AkitikA GT-102 amp, ASL Wave monos, Dennis Had 45 monos. Absolute Audio Labs PCF 25 amp (improved First Watt F7 super clone)
Topping D90, RME Audio ADI-2 DAC FS, ModWright Ultimate Sony XA-5400ES.
Burmester 948, McIntosh MCLK12, Kimber Kable, Siltech, Cardas, Avanti Audio cables.
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August 11, 2014, 09:54 AM #21
Re: Hegel vs Pass - can anyone describe the differences?
Rance
Synology DS411+II | GigaFOILv4 + Keces P3 Power Supply | Shunyata Alpha Ethernet | Lumin S1 | VAC Master Line Stage | VAC Signature 200 iQ amps | Kharma Elegance dB11-S | SVS PC-4000 subs x 2 | Shunyata 6000/T v2 | Kharma Elegance signal cables| Luminous Audio Technology power cables | Isoacoustics OREA vibration isolators | Solid Tech racks | Vicoustic room treatments | Acoustic Sciences Corporation IsoWall + IsoCeiling construction
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August 11, 2014, 09:55 AM #22
Re: Hegel vs Pass - can anyone describe the differences?
Ready to 'dump them'? No. Are they lifers? No. Do I change equipment casually? No. Each piece of equipment is auditioned and purchased to get me closer to my goals. No gear is without its flaws and if I can find something that either has less flaws or has more synergy with my system and/or goals then I will contemplate a change.
I am curious about the Hegel because it's often matched with Magico - and I have Magico speakers.Speakers: Magico M-Project w/MPods
Amps: CAT Legend -> CAT JL7s
Analog: Kronos Pro Limited Edition / Black Beauty tonearm / Zyx Universe Premium, Ortofon A95
Digital: Roon->Vivaldi DAC/Upsampler
Cables/Power: Kubala Sosna Elation ICs & SCs / Shunyata Denali 6000T & PC's / Furutech outlets
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August 11, 2014, 09:57 AM #23
Re: Hegel vs Pass - can anyone describe the differences?
Well...I'm waiting on ONE amp...not AMPS plural like big dog Mike to go with my Red S1's as pictured.
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August 11, 2014, 09:58 AM #24
Re: Hegel vs Pass - can anyone describe the differences?
i got mine in black though.
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August 11, 2014, 10:01 AM #25
Re: Hegel vs Pass - can anyone describe the differences?
I read this a while ago on TAS regarding the Pass sound
" Each generation of amplifiers he has produced has been a bit cleaner, has better low-level transients and dynamics, and is sweeter and more detailed. He has also been consistent in the way he “voices” his amplifiers: open and detailed, not warm and forgiving; extended highs and flat levels of upper midrange energy; equally flat mid and upper bass, with no gimmicks to give the sound more punch and “rhythm.”
So this is neutral ?
If that what it means maybe its the reason I chose an ATI over Pass. the ATI is so neutral for a lot less money and has great quality and durability.2chl : Vincent Sp331MkII, W4S STP-SE Stage 2, Kef 201/2, KEF 140, Vapor Breeze, Lumin, Bryston CD, BHA-1, Quicksilver Headamp, HD650, HD800s, HD820's, Dan Clark 1.1, Focal Stellia, OPPO 203, 105. ( Boxed up: Pass Xa-30.5, VPI Classic, Dynavector DV-20XL, Manley Chinook, Cadenza Bronze)
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August 11, 2014, 10:03 AM #26
Re: Hegel vs Pass - can anyone describe the differences?
Speakers: Magico M-Project w/MPods
Amps: CAT Legend -> CAT JL7s
Analog: Kronos Pro Limited Edition / Black Beauty tonearm / Zyx Universe Premium, Ortofon A95
Digital: Roon->Vivaldi DAC/Upsampler
Cables/Power: Kubala Sosna Elation ICs & SCs / Shunyata Denali 6000T & PC's / Furutech outlets
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August 11, 2014, 10:04 AM #27
Re: Hegel vs Pass - can anyone describe the differences?
Speakers: Magico M-Project w/MPods
Amps: CAT Legend -> CAT JL7s
Analog: Kronos Pro Limited Edition / Black Beauty tonearm / Zyx Universe Premium, Ortofon A95
Digital: Roon->Vivaldi DAC/Upsampler
Cables/Power: Kubala Sosna Elation ICs & SCs / Shunyata Denali 6000T & PC's / Furutech outlets
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August 11, 2014, 10:05 AM #28
Re: Hegel vs Pass - can anyone describe the differences?
Speakers - Magico S5mk2 Integrated - Vitus SIA-025 Analog - Vpi Prime Signature/Ortofon Cadenza Bronze Digital - Lumin A1
Power - Shunyata Denali 6000S/Alpha HC/Alpha Digital Cables - Kimber KS-6063/Nordost Frey IC
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August 11, 2014, 10:06 AM #29
Re: Hegel vs Pass - can anyone describe the differences?
Speakers: Magico M-Project w/MPods
Amps: CAT Legend -> CAT JL7s
Analog: Kronos Pro Limited Edition / Black Beauty tonearm / Zyx Universe Premium, Ortofon A95
Digital: Roon->Vivaldi DAC/Upsampler
Cables/Power: Kubala Sosna Elation ICs & SCs / Shunyata Denali 6000T & PC's / Furutech outlets
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August 11, 2014, 10:08 AM #30
Re: Hegel vs Pass - can anyone describe the differences?
Speakers: Magico M-Project w/MPods
Amps: CAT Legend -> CAT JL7s
Analog: Kronos Pro Limited Edition / Black Beauty tonearm / Zyx Universe Premium, Ortofon A95
Digital: Roon->Vivaldi DAC/Upsampler
Cables/Power: Kubala Sosna Elation ICs & SCs / Shunyata Denali 6000T & PC's / Furutech outlets
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August 11, 2014, 10:08 AM #31
Re: Hegel vs Pass - can anyone describe the differences?
Rance
Synology DS411+II | GigaFOILv4 + Keces P3 Power Supply | Shunyata Alpha Ethernet | Lumin S1 | VAC Master Line Stage | VAC Signature 200 iQ amps | Kharma Elegance dB11-S | SVS PC-4000 subs x 2 | Shunyata 6000/T v2 | Kharma Elegance signal cables| Luminous Audio Technology power cables | Isoacoustics OREA vibration isolators | Solid Tech racks | Vicoustic room treatments | Acoustic Sciences Corporation IsoWall + IsoCeiling construction
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August 11, 2014, 10:15 AM #32
Re: Hegel vs Pass - can anyone describe the differences?
My Systems: http://www.audioshark.org/showthread...481#post158481
"We can hear everything we measure, but we can't measure everything we hear. Let your ears be your guide."
Dealer for: Aqua Hi-Fi, Aurender, AudioQuest Cables & Power Products, Berkeley Audio, Block Audio (distributor), Boulder Amplifiers, Bowers & Wilkins (B&W), Bryston, Clarisys Audio Loudspeakers (distributor), Classe’ Audio, Degritter Record Cleaning Machines, Esoteric, Finite Elemente, FirstWatt, Focal Loudspeakers and Headphones, GigaFoil, Harbeth Loudspeakers, Hegel, HiFi Man, Innuos, ISO Acoustics, Keces Power Supplies, Kharma Loudspeakers and Electronics, Kuzma Turntables, Lumin, Luxman, Magico Loudspeakers, MBL Speakers & Electronics, MSB Technologies, MySonicLabs Phono Cartridges, Nordost Cables, Ortofon, Pass Labs, Quadraspire, Rega Turntables and Electronics, Shunyata Research, STAX, Stein Music Products, Stillpoints, Soulution, VAC, Vicoustics, Viva Audio, VPI Industries, WireWorld Cables.
https://suncoastaudio.com/
Phone: 941-932-0282
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Suncoast-Au...1105178279194/
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August 11, 2014, 10:15 AM #33My Systems: http://www.audioshark.org/showthread...481#post158481
"We can hear everything we measure, but we can't measure everything we hear. Let your ears be your guide."
Dealer for: Aqua Hi-Fi, Aurender, AudioQuest Cables & Power Products, Berkeley Audio, Block Audio (distributor), Boulder Amplifiers, Bowers & Wilkins (B&W), Bryston, Clarisys Audio Loudspeakers (distributor), Classe’ Audio, Degritter Record Cleaning Machines, Esoteric, Finite Elemente, FirstWatt, Focal Loudspeakers and Headphones, GigaFoil, Harbeth Loudspeakers, Hegel, HiFi Man, Innuos, ISO Acoustics, Keces Power Supplies, Kharma Loudspeakers and Electronics, Kuzma Turntables, Lumin, Luxman, Magico Loudspeakers, MBL Speakers & Electronics, MSB Technologies, MySonicLabs Phono Cartridges, Nordost Cables, Ortofon, Pass Labs, Quadraspire, Rega Turntables and Electronics, Shunyata Research, STAX, Stein Music Products, Stillpoints, Soulution, VAC, Vicoustics, Viva Audio, VPI Industries, WireWorld Cables.
https://suncoastaudio.com/
Phone: 941-932-0282
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Suncoast-Au...1105178279194/
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August 11, 2014, 10:22 AM #34Rance
Synology DS411+II | GigaFOILv4 + Keces P3 Power Supply | Shunyata Alpha Ethernet | Lumin S1 | VAC Master Line Stage | VAC Signature 200 iQ amps | Kharma Elegance dB11-S | SVS PC-4000 subs x 2 | Shunyata 6000/T v2 | Kharma Elegance signal cables| Luminous Audio Technology power cables | Isoacoustics OREA vibration isolators | Solid Tech racks | Vicoustic room treatments | Acoustic Sciences Corporation IsoWall + IsoCeiling construction
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August 11, 2014, 10:22 AM #35
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August 11, 2014, 10:44 AM #36
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August 11, 2014, 10:55 AM #37
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August 11, 2014, 01:05 PM #38
Re: Hegel vs Pass - can anyone describe the differences?
anyone help me with how to post thumbnail pictures so i don't fill the whole screen again with a picture post?!?! TIA
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August 11, 2014, 04:36 PM #39
Re: Hegel vs Pass - can anyone describe the differences?
Speakers: Magico M-Project w/MPods
Amps: CAT Legend -> CAT JL7s
Analog: Kronos Pro Limited Edition / Black Beauty tonearm / Zyx Universe Premium, Ortofon A95
Digital: Roon->Vivaldi DAC/Upsampler
Cables/Power: Kubala Sosna Elation ICs & SCs / Shunyata Denali 6000T & PC's / Furutech outlets
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August 11, 2014, 04:42 PM #40
Re: Hegel vs Pass - can anyone describe the differences?
Fleetwood Deville by Oswald Mills Audio, Vienna Acoustics Haydn Jubilee, Wharfedale Linton w/ stands, Klipsch RB-75, Klipsch RP-160M.
Job INTegrated. Luxman L-595aSE
NAD C 658 streamer.
First Watt SIT-3, Job 250 Monos, NuForce STA200, AkitikA GT-102 amp, ASL Wave monos, Dennis Had 45 monos. Absolute Audio Labs PCF 25 amp (improved First Watt F7 super clone)
Topping D90, RME Audio ADI-2 DAC FS, ModWright Ultimate Sony XA-5400ES.
Burmester 948, McIntosh MCLK12, Kimber Kable, Siltech, Cardas, Avanti Audio cables.
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August 11, 2014, 05:46 PM #41
Hegel vs Pass - can anyone describe the differences?
Fair enough. Here's the old listening room...with my little performers. Current gear; KEF LS50, VPI traveller, Ortofon 2m black, Oppo 105, and leftover HT front end Parasound p7 and A23, Grover Huffman IC and cords.
Last edited by bthomas9; August 11, 2014 at 05:46 PM. Reason: update
Speakers - Magico S5mk2 Integrated - Vitus SIA-025 Analog - Vpi Prime Signature/Ortofon Cadenza Bronze Digital - Lumin A1
Power - Shunyata Denali 6000S/Alpha HC/Alpha Digital Cables - Kimber KS-6063/Nordost Frey IC
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August 11, 2014, 06:00 PM #42
Re: Hegel vs Pass - can anyone describe the differences?
Cute!!!
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August 11, 2014, 06:04 PM #43
Hegel vs Pass - can anyone describe the differences?
Upgrades since then - lumin T1, Magico S1's, Shunyata power cables, and the ordered Hegel H30. Panels by GIK
Last edited by bthomas9; August 11, 2014 at 06:05 PM. Reason: update
Speakers - Magico S5mk2 Integrated - Vitus SIA-025 Analog - Vpi Prime Signature/Ortofon Cadenza Bronze Digital - Lumin A1
Power - Shunyata Denali 6000S/Alpha HC/Alpha Digital Cables - Kimber KS-6063/Nordost Frey IC
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August 11, 2014, 07:02 PM #44
Re: Hegel vs Pass - can anyone describe the differences?
Absolutely adorable! I bet you get a very solid center image with your daughter singing along to the music. The Hegel H30 should be a huge step up in performance, enjoy it!
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August 11, 2014, 07:17 PM #45
Re: Hegel vs Pass - can anyone describe the differences?
Unfortunately I'm too late for audio preferences for the older one...she into the Disney artists and top 40 (the clean stuff). But my younger will sit and listen to my affectionately referedto "M" collections - Myles, Mingus, Mo (Keb), Morrison, and Meppelin. I may have cheated on one of those. But she still likes them
Speakers - Magico S5mk2 Integrated - Vitus SIA-025 Analog - Vpi Prime Signature/Ortofon Cadenza Bronze Digital - Lumin A1
Power - Shunyata Denali 6000S/Alpha HC/Alpha Digital Cables - Kimber KS-6063/Nordost Frey IC
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August 11, 2014, 07:26 PM #46
Re: Hegel vs Pass - can anyone describe the differences?
Younger one has great taste
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August 11, 2014, 08:23 PM #47
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August 12, 2014, 12:45 AM #48
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August 12, 2014, 02:27 AM #49
Re: Hegel vs Pass - can anyone describe the differences?
The pass is allot more neutral . I have the Xp-30 and 100.5 . , the Hegel at first seemed quicker to me and seemed to have a more open sound . But once I went to the xp-30 the 100.5 came to life . I was running the anniversary audio research and as crazy as it sounds it didn't do justice to the 100.5 . Apples to apples I would say the Heg while I can't say is better but would be my choice as it seemed to fit well with all my rigs and never tended to color anything or add anything tone wise .. But if you are running an XP-30 I would def suggest the pass amps , there's just something to love about that pairing . It is a way underpriced setup for the quality of sound .. Together they sound nothing like solid state to me but def not tube .. Of you end up leaning towards the pass let me know maybe I'll pawn mine off , I'm itching to get the new .8 series
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August 12, 2014, 06:31 AM #50
Re: Hegel vs Pass - can anyone describe the differences?
Welcome AVjim
My Systems: http://www.audioshark.org/showthread...481#post158481
"We can hear everything we measure, but we can't measure everything we hear. Let your ears be your guide."
Dealer for: Aqua Hi-Fi, Aurender, AudioQuest Cables & Power Products, Berkeley Audio, Block Audio (distributor), Boulder Amplifiers, Bowers & Wilkins (B&W), Bryston, Clarisys Audio Loudspeakers (distributor), Classe’ Audio, Degritter Record Cleaning Machines, Esoteric, Finite Elemente, FirstWatt, Focal Loudspeakers and Headphones, GigaFoil, Harbeth Loudspeakers, Hegel, HiFi Man, Innuos, ISO Acoustics, Keces Power Supplies, Kharma Loudspeakers and Electronics, Kuzma Turntables, Lumin, Luxman, Magico Loudspeakers, MBL Speakers & Electronics, MSB Technologies, MySonicLabs Phono Cartridges, Nordost Cables, Ortofon, Pass Labs, Quadraspire, Rega Turntables and Electronics, Shunyata Research, STAX, Stein Music Products, Stillpoints, Soulution, VAC, Vicoustics, Viva Audio, VPI Industries, WireWorld Cables.
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