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    Re: Coronavirus Live Updates

    Quote Originally Posted by kzhtoo View Post
    It won’t stop until a vaccine is available. And you really can’t lift up stay at home order without easily accessible broad testing and contact tracing system either. But that doesn’t mean the government won’t. Most certainly there will be a few peaks throughout this year.
    Since we have not found a vaccine for the flu, I think it is a long shot for Corona as well leading to available awareness on the spot testing, and even then people may or may not address the matter and this all coming from an optimist.


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    Re: Coronavirus Live Updates

    Well to those industries that must continue to function like the one I'm in (railroading) we are doing the following.....

    all train and engine crews are wearing masks / gloves
    control stands, grab irons, door handles, etc. wiped down after every shift
    continue to remind everyone to avoid touching your face at least until you've washed your hands properly

    so far all are crews have remained healthy.
    Cheers ! …. Dave

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    Re: Coronavirus Live Updates

    Interesting data, now that the doctors are coping up with the daemon for a while...

    https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/coro...-rate/2366184/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Devg View Post
    Interesting data, now that the doctors are coping up with the daemon for a while...

    https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/coro...-rate/2366184/
    And what are the Stats for Not using the Vents?

    Patients Die, right?

    My wife is a 35 year Respiratory Therapist and until there is some real proof about this, it does not make a lot of sense unless there is an issue with the Vent or the amount of Oxygen used.
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    Re: Coronavirus Live Updates

    Quote Originally Posted by UltraFast69 View Post
    Since we have not found a vaccine for the flu, I think it is a long shot for Corona as well leading to available awareness on the spot testing, and even then people may or may not address the matter and this all coming from an optimist.


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    The Yearly Flu is not the same exact strand of Flu year after year. Each year they guess what they think it should be for the next year, sometimes right, sometimes not. It usually includes several strands as well as harmful delivery agents. If you remember, they included the Swine Flu strand for about 4 years after there were no more reported cases along with several other strands.

    If the Yearly Flu was exactly the same every year, they would have a Vaccine, unless there has been an underlying money making scheme between all former administrations of government and Pharma companies since Vaccines were created in every country.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowfax View Post
    The Yearly Flu is not the same exact strand of Flu year after year. Each year they guess what they think it should be for the next year, sometimes right, sometimes not. It usually includes several strands as well as harmful delivery agents. If you remember, they included the Swine Flu strand for about 4 years after there were no more reported cases along with several other strands.

    If the Yearly Flu was exactly the same every year, they would have a Vaccine, unless there has been an underlying money making scheme between all former administrations of government and Pharma companies since Vaccines were created in every country.
    The CDC website has the effectiveness of the influenza vaccine broken down by age group and year-to-year.

    https://www.cdc.gov/flu/vaccines-wor...estimates.html

    Although the numbers used for the analyses are relatively small, the results are dismal. In the over 64 age group, vaccine effectiveness almost never exceeds 15%; even in the 50-64 age group, it is almost never over 20%. If that were how effective a COVID vaccine might be, it would not be very helpful. And as it stands now, there is very little known about what might constitute protective immunity from the corona virus, so no one knows what a potential vaccine should do
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    And what are the Stats for Not using the Vents?

    Patients Die, right?

    My wife is a 35 year Respiratory Therapist and until there is some real proof about this, it does not make a lot of sense unless there is an issue with the Vent or the amount of Oxygen used.
    Proof may take awhile. Raw data from Italy suggests that high-flow O2 has better results than artificial ventilation in most critically ill patients, but it is retrospective and poorly controlled for other factors. It's not clear if anyone (or any group) is willing to undertake a controlled, prospective trial to try to get proof one way or the other.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueFox View Post
    Possibly, but I suspect they are better than nothing.

    What I wonder is what will happen when people can go to work, and just start acting human again. The virus isn’t going to disappear. Why won’t it start infecting people again?
    Well if NO cure or vaccine is made by next April, May, this could occur each and every season, something like the "flu season" and we will have a Covid19 season. I sure hope and pray not.
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    Re: Coronavirus Live Updates

    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowfax View Post
    And what are the Stats for Not using the Vents?

    Patients Die, right?

    My wife is a 35 year Respiratory Therapist and until there is some real proof about this, it does not make a lot of sense unless there is an issue with the Vent or the amount of Oxygen used.
    maybe you are right. I am far from a doctor but what I understand is there are a lot of unknowns about this virus at the moment. Nobody understands it to the fullest, irrespective of how experience they are. Doctors/Scientists are desperately trying to glean into it everyday as new data comes in. I am sure there would be more discoveries to be had in the coming months.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kiwi_1282001 View Post
    Furthermore, be warned. There is also abundant opportunity for your significant other to point out an imbalance in domestic labor.
    Kiwi sir,

    Truer words have never been spoken. Thanks for the heads up, but I am apparently not of the learning type.
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