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    Quote Originally Posted by Elberoth View Post
    This is BY FAR the best article on coronavirus. You can skip the rest.

    https://medium.com/@tomaspueyo/coron...e-f4d3d9cd99ca
    Yes, that is an excellent article.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elberoth View Post
    This is BY FAR the best article on coronavirus. You can skip the rest.

    https://medium.com/@tomaspueyo/coron...e-f4d3d9cd99ca
    Pretty good article, except for one glaring omission (error?); nobody anywhere has any accurate idea of the number of cases or the death rate. Children are the primary vector for essentially all respiratory infections, and children only get a mild cold from this virus, if they get sick at all. Even young adults are likely to have mild or sometimes no symptoms, and both of these groups are 1) uncounted cases and 2) contagious. Older adults, especially with chronic illnesses, are hard hit; the latest figures from Italy suggest that about 90% of their many fatalities are in people over 70.

    One suggestion is absolutely correct; the virus is almost certainly everywhere in the US. Every large city, every state. What will happen next is anyone's guess.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rbbert View Post
    Pretty good article, except for one glaring omission (error?); nobody anywhere has any accurate idea of the number of cases or the death rate. Children are the primary vector for essentially all respiratory infections, and children only get a mild cold from this virus, if they get sick at all. Even young adults are likely to have mild or sometimes no symptoms, and both of these groups are 1) uncounted cases and 2) contagious. Older adults, especially with chronic illnesses, are hard hit; the latest figures from Italy suggest that about 90% of their many fatalities are in people over 70.

    One suggestion is absolutely correct; the virus is almost certainly everywhere in the US. Every large city, every state. What will happen next is anyone's guess.

    No one is going to be able to provide an accurate number of cases or death rate, but it has been modelled.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elberoth View Post
    This is BY FAR the best article on coronavirus. You can skip the rest.

    https://medium.com/@tomaspueyo/coron...e-f4d3d9cd99ca
    Agree! Wow, the analysis is so sound and clear, it’ll leave you speechless.

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    As I was reading this thread getting caught up my phone provided two notifications, one, Tom Hanks and his wife has the CV and a player for the Utah Jazz tested positive so the NBA has suspended the season.

    This evening news reported 1200 confirmed cases in the U.S.
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    You will have 10.000 cases in a week.
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    Another bloodbath in the market tomorrow.

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    What happens in Italy is terrifying.
    827 died in less than 3 weeks.
    364 died in the last 2 days.
    This is starting to look like a real nightmare.
    You can guess easily that the Chinese lied to the world with their 3000 deaths.


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    Re: Coronavirus Live Updates

    As a caution - how one passenger infected 9 others:

    red - carrier
    orange - infected
    pink - he got infected, although he got in half an hour after the carrier got out (!)


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    Maybe slightly off topic, but why is nobody talking about the reasons this all happened and stopping China from continuing their disgusting eating and filthy market place lifestyle? This is now at least the 4th time they have spread Animal based diseases but luckily never to this degree. This should never happen again.

    Another resolution I have made is that I will now go completely out of my way to never support an economy of people that cause these issues for the rest of the world. I will spend more money, or just do without items if they are only made in China.
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    Re: Coronavirus Live Updates

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    You will have 10.000 cases in a week.
    Yup....we will likely hit 2,000 by today or early tomorrow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elberoth View Post
    As a caution - how one passenger infected 9 others:

    red - carrier
    orange - infected
    pink - he got infected, although he got in half an hour after the carrier got out (!)


    Yes, this indicates there was either an aerosol particle containing a virion flowing around being recirculated in the air in the bus or picked it up from touching a surface.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowfax View Post
    Maybe slightly off topic, but why is nobody talking about the reasons this all happened and stopping China from continuing their disgusting eating and filthy market place lifestyle? This is now at least the 4th time they have spread Animal based diseases but luckily never to this degree. This should never happen again.

    Another resolution I have made is that I will now go completely out of my way to never support an economy of people that cause these issues for the rest of the world. I will spend more money, or just do without items if they are only made in China.
    one, it's not going to solve the problem today by finger pointing but their day of reckoning will come when this blows over. The CCP yields a lot of soft power around the globe esp in media, they even had the WHO eating out of their hand a day ago proclaiming what a GREAT job China has done. pathetic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by puroagave View Post
    one, it's not going to solve the problem today by finger pointing but their day of reckoning will come when this blows over. The CCP yields a lot of soft power around the globe esp in media, they even had the WHO eating out of their hand a day ago proclaiming what a GREAT job China has done. pathetic.
    I fully understand what you are saying, and it is more than just Finger Pointing, it is reality they needs to be dealt with, not just ignored as it has been up to now in the mainstream media. China also has lied about it all from the beginning and most likely still are today.

    It is unfortunate that the US economy is so dependent on China because many people will lose their jobs because they work at stores that sell 90% Cheap Chinese Junk.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowfax View Post
    Maybe slightly off topic, but why is nobody talking about the reasons this all happened and stopping China from continuing their disgusting eating and filthy market place lifestyle? This is now at least the 4th time they have spread Animal based diseases but luckily never to this degree. This should never happen again.

    Another resolution I have made is that I will now go completely out of my way to never support an economy of people that cause these issues for the rest of the world. I will spend more money, or just do without items if they are only made in China.
    I guess you haven't traveled to many lesser developed countries around the world. Wet Markets which are thought to be the breading ground for current and past outbreaks aren't unique to China. They can be found around most of Asia. I have seen how the poor eat in Brazil, Mexico. Thailand, Philippines, Vietnam, China South Africa and India. What is disgusting in our eyes is often the norm for these and many others around the world. In many nations even those who are employed cannot afford to have kitchens installed where they "live" so they get their daily meals from street vendors and I am not talking of Taco Trucks or Hot Dog stands. The sharing off plates and eating utensils is common.

    You indicate that we haven't seen anything to this degree. I am in no way understating the potential for the current outbreak to hit numbers not seen since 1918-20 but the HIN1 (Swine Flu) virus of 2008-9 saw over 60 million cases in the US with over 12,000 deaths, Worldwide there were somewhere between 152,00 and 500,000 deaths.

    You have every right to avoid purchasing products from China and I don't want to sidetrack this thread to debate whether we should purchase products from countries that create these world wide health issue. I just think it is amusing that we buy and hold stocks in companies that source these products to low cost area while rewarding their executives with nice bonuses for moving our manufacturing capacity overseas.
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    Quote Originally Posted by still-one View Post
    I guess you haven't traveled to many lesser developed countries around the world. Wet Markets which are thought to be the breading ground for current and past outbreaks aren't unique to China. They can be found around most of Asia. I have seen how the poor eat in Brazil, Mexico. Thailand, Philippines, Vietnam, China South Africa and India. What is disgusting in our eyes is often the norm for these and many others around the world. In many nations even those who are employed cannot afford to have kitchens installed where they "live" so they get their daily meals from street vendors and I am not talking of Taco Trucks or Hot Dog stands. The sharing off plates and eating utensils is common.

    You indicate that we haven't seen anything to this degree. I am in no way understating the potential for the current outbreak to hit numbers not seen since 1918-20 but the HIN1 (Swine Flu) virus of 2008-9 saw over 60 million cases in the US with over 12,000 deaths, Worldwide there were somewhere between 152,00 and 500,000 deaths.

    You have every right to avoid purchasing products from China and I don't want to sidetrack this thread to debate whether we should purchase products from countries that create these world wide health issue. I just think it is amusing that we buy and hold stocks in companies that source these products to low cost area while rewarding their executives with nice bonuses for moving our manufacturing capacity overseas.
    Just to add to what Jim said: MERS originated in Egypt from camels. The Spanish Flu did not originate in China, either.

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    If you read that medium.com article above posted by Elberoth, blaming China won’t be a priority at this moment.

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    Thursday’s stock losses wiped out $2.2 trillion in market value.

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    Quote Originally Posted by still-one View Post

    [...] You have every right to avoid purchasing products from China and I don't want to sidetrack this thread to debate whether we should purchase products from countries that create these world wide health issue. I just think it is amusing that we buy and hold stocks in companies that source these products to low cost area while rewarding their executives with nice bonuses for moving our manufacturing capacity overseas.

    Well said Jim.

    Its mildly amusing to read how some can use their Apple iPhones and Dynaudio speakers and yet vow never to support the economy that made them.



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    When a new disease first took hold in Wuhan, the Chinese authorities did not have the luxury of advanced notice. Their initial strategy, in the crucial early weeks of what would become the global pandemic covid-19, was obfuscation and censorship, which did nothing to halt the spread of the virus that causes the disease. Only now, months after the first cases were reported, have new transmissions slowed to close to zero—and only after an unprecedented, draconian lockdown for hundreds of millions of citizens.

    America, by contrast, had the luxury of several weeks’ notice. Yet the crucial early weeks when it could have prepared for the spread of the disease were squandered, in a country with some of the world’s best epidemiologists and physicians. As of March 11th, almost 1,300 Americans had been diagnosed with covid-19. Several times more probably have the disease undetected and are transmitting it within communities. And still the country looks behind in its preparations for what now threatens to be a bruising pandemic.
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    Re: Coronavirus Live Updates

    Dr. Marty Makary director from the Johns Hopkins School of Public Health states that Chloroquine is showing promising results in the treatment of Covid 19 in South Korea. In the video below you'll see this illustrated. The doctor in the video is not Dr. Makary.

    Dust off your micro biology textbook and follow along. If you sold your text book bear with the technical description from 1:30-6:00 to hear the promising outlook for Chloroquine. No it is not double blind tested here in the US but we don't have time for that. We have to observe what is being used empirically and works in other countries.

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    Thanks for posting this! I will be calling in a prescription of Chloroquine tomorrow to keep handy in case I come down with this virus.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Odyssey View Post
    Dr. Marty Makary director from the Johns Hopkins School of Public Health states that Chloroquine is showing promising results in the treatment of Covid 19 in South Korea. In the video below you'll see this illustrated. The doctor in the video is not Dr. Makary.

    Dust off your micro biology textbook and follow along. If you sold your text book bear with the technical description from 1:30-6:00 to hear the promising outlook for Chloroquine. No it is not double blind tested here in the US but we don't have time for that. We have to observe what is being used empirically and works in other countries.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Odyssey View Post
    Dr. Marty Makary director from the Johns Hopkins School of Public Health states that Chloroquine is showing promising results in the treatment of Covid 19 in South Korea. In the video below you'll see this illustrated. The doctor in the video is not Dr. Makary.

    Dust off your micro biology textbook and follow along. If you sold your text book bear with the technical description from 1:30-6:00 to hear the promising outlook for Chloroquine. No it is not double blind tested here in the US but we don't have time for that. We have to observe what is being used empirically and works in other countries.

    Very cool. With my molecular biology background, I understood all of this...this looks to be quite effective.

    Going to forward to my doctor.

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    National emergency declared in Poland
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    All gatherings over 50 banned
    Schools, malls, gyms, restaurants, bars etc - all closed.
    Restrictions on # of people who can get into a grocery store or pharmacy.

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    At an early stage the measures are most effective to soften the spike of new cases, which might otherwise overwhelm the health system.


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    Masters is “postponed”... thats a bummer. Called Delta to cancel my flight, and the hold time was over 6 hours.


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    Quote Originally Posted by apdoc2004 View Post
    Thanks for posting this! I will be calling in a prescription of Chloroquine tomorrow to keep handy in case I come down with this virus.
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    Hydroxychloroquine is almost certainly more effective (and definitely less toxic) than chloroquine; however, you probably will find that both are (already) in short supply
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    Quote Originally Posted by rbbert View Post
    Hydroxychloroquine is almost certainly more effective (and definitely less toxic) than chloroquine; however, you probably will find that both are (already) in short supply
    Covid-19 problem is: no resistance in the immune systems, no antidote. Therefore, currently no cure (1 - 1 1/2 years away).

    You either make it through your internal antibodies, or then not. Kids might not have symptoms at all, young adults could have a mild fever and cough, older adults probably regular flu kind of symptoms like, muscle pain, fever and dry cough, elderly and people with pre-conditions are in danger.


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    We have a modest sized residential weekend coming up for a small charity , of course no one wants to go because of the virus . but unless the UK govt issues guidance banning these events we stand to lose a fair amount of money which folks can`t really afford to lose .
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    That was my concern -- so I did not waste any time. I called in my prescription to the local Costco pharmacy and will have it ready Monday morning.

    Quote Originally Posted by rbbert View Post
    Hydroxychloroquine is almost certainly more effective (and definitely less toxic) than chloroquine; however, you probably will find that both are (already) in short supply

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    Quote Originally Posted by apdoc2004 View Post
    That was my concern -- so I did not waste any time. I called in my prescription to the local Costco pharmacy and will have it ready Monday morning.
    Don’t you need the prescription from a doctor?

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    I happen to be a physician myself

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    Don’t you need the prescription from a doctor?

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    Hadn’t seen this map before. It’s everywhere, talking about community spread.

    To prevent this from happening timely testing would have been necessary to be able to isolate early cases. Now people have been out there distributing it freely. Oh boy.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuoppis View Post
    Hadn’t seen this map before. It’s everywhere, talking about community spread.

    To prevent this from happening timely testing would have been necessary to be able to isolate early cases. Now people have been out there distributing it freely. Oh boy.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuoppis View Post
    Hadn’t seen this map before. It’s everywhere, talking about community spread.

    To prevent this from happening timely testing would have been necessary to be able to isolate early cases. Now people have been out there distributing it freely. Oh boy.


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    Exactly. US was offered cheat code by China, S. Korea, Italy (not to mention Hong Kong, Taiwan, Singapore). And it was mindbogglingly ignored completely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by apdoc2004 View Post
    I happen to be a physician myself
    You prescribe your prescriptions?


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    Quote Originally Posted by UltraFast69 View Post
    You prescribe your prescriptions?


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    Hmmm, self-medication with prescription drugs. What’s the other word for it?


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    Lack of availability of widespread testing has impaired the Western countries ability to respond to and contain this epidemic. It may be the most significant difference between the experience in South Korea and that of the rest of the world. What is more amazing is that it still isn’t happening and probably won’t happen soon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuoppis View Post
    ...To prevent this from happening timely testing would have been necessary to be able to isolate early cases. Now people have been out there distributing it freely. Oh boy.
    this is like pearl harbor, but franklin roosevelt knew the about the attack 3 months in advance and did absolutely nothing in preparation or in defense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kzhtoo View Post
    Exactly. US was offered cheat code by China, S. Korea, Italy (not to mention Hong Kong, Taiwan, Singapore). And it was mindbogglingly ignored completely.
    Not to mention it was offered a working commercially available test by WHO, well before the CDC's test was ready, and it was declined.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Puma Cat View Post
    Not to mention it was offered a working commercially available test by WHO, well before the CDC's test was ready, and it was declined.
    People always make light of or find excuse for incompetency as if there’s always someone waiting in the background to fill the gap. IMO that is the single most important quality needed in our leaders. US’s race to the bottom in dealing with Covid-19 outbreak is a prime example. I’m praying there’s still tiny window of time left to flatten the curve enough so that our healthcare system is not overwhelmed.

    BTW, in 2018, entire Pandemic response chain of command was fired to save money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kzhtoo View Post
    People always make light of or find excuse for incompetency as if there’s always someone waiting in the background to fill the gap. IMO that is the single most important quality needed in our leaders. US’s race to the bottom in dealing with Covid-19 outbreak is a prime example. I’m praying there’s still tiny window of time left to flatten the curve enough so that our healthcare system is not overwhelmed.

    BTW, in 2018, entire Pandemic response chain of command was fired to save money.
    Exactamundo.

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    Just watched Gavin Newsom's press conference on the 12th of March. CA had, as of that date, 8227 tests for a state of ~40,000,000 people.

    Also, some of the local state labs had a no. of kits to do the RT-PCR detection step of the test, but CDC did not provide the RNA Extraction reagents required to extract the viral RNA to be able to actually do the RT-PCR detection step.

    CDC drops the ball once again...

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    Found this on Facebook. Sobering.

    https://www.facebook.com/1061935976/videos/10219945681886705/UzpfSTEyOTIwODY2OTM6MTAyMTYyODI1MDUzNTcyNTM/

    Take care pls!

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    Bay Area will be virtually locked down, effective midnight today. You can only go out for grocery/food and medical appointments/pharmacy runs.

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    It was about high time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by calloway View Post
    Did you see any of this hysteria, or press coverage, last 'flu season' when '61000 people died in the USA of influenza, and millions worldwide..?..Covid 19 is an upper respiratory, infection, that to date, has a morbidity and mortality rate approaching the flu. There is no reason, currently,. for any of the panic that is press driven in this country. People are going to die but the average healthy person, if they contract the disease may not even have significant symptoms.It is too early to in the disease to say whether contracting the virus will give you immunity going forward.This virus, like most viruses, is able to mutate. What will probably happen is that the CDC and labs across the country will come up with an immunization, possibly yearly, that will confer at least partial protection...like the current flu shot. The reality is that < 50% of people that are offered the flu shot don't get it..Dont forget to buy extra 'toilet paper;...
    There is reason to panic. I am an emergency medicine doctor in the front lines. I am 61 have well controlled diabetes and hypertension along with adult onset asthma. My risk of dying from the virus is 10-15%. If I was 70 or older it would be about 20% with my risk factors. And most people that are 50 or older have one or more risk factors like hypertension, coronary heart disease, diabetes, COPD or Emphysema, kidney disease or any one of several autoimmune diseases. The virus is more virulent than the flu. And contrary to your statement about mutation. The virus mutates very little so far.

    Currently, there are 2 Emergency Medicine doctors that are in the intensive care unit with the virus. One is in his 40's with no comorbid risk factors, the other one in in his 60's. The virus does impart at least partial immunity. However, there are a few patients in Japan that have become re-infected with the virus. The virus has a much higher mortality than the flu. 20% that get it will require hospitalization and a significant percentage of that will require the ICU and ventilator support.

    Today, about 340 people died overnight in Italy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mechnutt View Post
    There is reason to panic. I am an emergency medicine doctor in the front lines. I am 61 have well controlled diabetes and hypertension along with adult onset asthma. My risk of dying from the virus is 10-15%. If I was 70 or older it would be about 20% with my risk factors. And most people that are 50 or older have one or more risk factors like hypertension, coronary heart disease, diabetes, COPD or Emphysema, kidney disease or any one of several autoimmune diseases. The virus is more virulent than the flu. And contrary to your statement about mutation. The virus mutates very little so far.

    Currently, there are 2 Emergency Medicine doctors that are in the intensive care unit with the virus. One is in his 40's with no comorbid risk factors, the other one in in his 60's. The virus does impart at least partial immunity. However, there are a few patients in Japan that have become re-infected with the virus. The virus has a much higher mortality than the flu. 20% that get it will require hospitalization and a significant percentage of that will require the ICU and ventilator support.

    Today, about 340 people died overnight in Italy.
    Hi Mechnutt, your comments are bang-on. I'm not a physician, but I have degree in microbiology, and I was a molecular biologist/geneticist that developed molecular diagnostics tests during my career in Biotech.

    With respect to the lethality index, SARS-CoV-2 is ~34X as deadly as Influenza B H3N2.

    You should look into using hydroxyquinolone in conjunction with Zn++ as a prophylactic measure. The hydroxyquinolone functions as an ionophore into the cell wall and allows passage of zinc into the cell. The zinc is a strong inhibitor of the RNA dependent RNA polymerase (aka RNA replicase) that the virus uses to replicate itself. 400-500 mg of hydroxyquinolone 2X a day combined with zinc cold lozenges should work...

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    Thanks PC. I am aware of the hydroxychloroquine and will take it if I come down with it along with zinc. Zinc tears up my stomach though.

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