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    Quote Originally Posted by joeinid View Post
    I’m hopeful that this will actually end well. I think some of the media might be doing a disservice to everyone.
    I agree. While they should report what's happening they need to do it in a more balanced way.

    I seem to remember when the news was more about well I guess real news that was more balanced. I'm unsure how many real journalists still exist today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joeinid View Post
    I’m hopeful that this will actually end well. I think some of the media might be doing a disservice to everyone.
    +1 ...and fwiw, i have been told this is just a hoax ;-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by joeinid View Post
    I’m hopeful that this will actually end well. I think some of the media might be doing a disservice to everyone.
    Respectfully, not sure what you mean that it will actually end well. This is a global pandemic with well over 100,000 people infected and >3000 people have died in the last ~2.5 months. By the time this pandemic is completely over, which could be a year to a year and half from now, its likely millions of people will have become infected and tens of thousands of people may die, given the lethality index is > 3%. For the folks that have, or will suffer from the morbidity and mortality of this pandemic, it hasn't "ended well".

    Moreover I've been following the news coverage extensively, and what I see the media is doing is reporting facts. And by definition, facts are not open to dispute. They have also been providing a key platform for public health professional providing key guidance and behaviors for people to maximize containment and mitigation, so, respectfully, I'm struggling understand your comment that the media is doing a disservice to everyone.

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    I agree. While they should report what's happening they need to do it in a more balanced way.

    I seem to remember when the news was more about well I guess real news that was more balanced. I'm unsure how many real journalists still exist today.
    i think i depends upon your source... if you are getting your news from twitter, facebook or cable news, then sure.

    otoh, the new york times, the washington post, PBS, and NPR just to name a few familiar mainstream sources, seem to be doing real journalism with real journalists.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Puma Cat View Post
    Respectfully, not sure what you mean that it will actually end well. This is a global pandemic with well over 100,000 people infected and >3000 people have died in the last ~2.5 months. By the time this pandemic is completely over, which could be a year to a year and half from now, its likely millions of people will have become infected and tens of thousands of people may die, given the lethality index is > 3%. For the folks that have, or will suffer from the morbidity and mortality of this pandemic, it hasn't "ended well".

    Moreover I've been following the news coverage extensively, and what I see the media is doing is reporting facts. And by definition, facts are not open to dispute. They have also been providing a key platform for public health professional providing key guidance and behaviors for people to maximize containment and mitigation, so, respectfully, I'm struggling understand your comment that the media is doing a disservice to everyone.

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    ..... and you came by this piece of info from what source?

    Seems to me I read somewhere that far more people died from the H1N1 flu virus than have from CV-19 and that the major symptoms reported for a healthy person were no more than a slight fever.
    I don't believe that a healthy person with a strong immune system that takes sensible sanitary precautions like washing your hands,has anything to worry about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aKnyght View Post
    i think i depends upon your source... if you are getting your news from twitter, facebook or cable news, then sure.

    otoh, the new york times, the washington post, PBS, and NPR just to name a few familiar mainstream sources, seem to be doing real journalism with real journalists.
    I could care less about social media. I’m not on FB, Twit, etc. IMO, they are a waste of time. My friends contact by telephone and email when they desire to speak.

    However, I’m speaking of most journalism in general. Most of what we hear now is “commentary” from whatever perspective the news station endorses; i.e. if you haven’t noticed journalism has become highly partisan. And the NYT and WP are just as guilty in this area as are most others. You hear and read what they desire you to hear and read but only from their perspective. IMO there is very little of the “whole truth” in journalism today. Many are just a bunch of liars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gene View Post
    ..... and you came by this piece of info from what source?
    WHO.

    COVID-19 has only been extant a few months; far less time that H1N1, which, BTW, came back in the Autumn and Winter of 2009.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gene View Post
    I don't believe that a healthy person with a strong immune system that takes sensible sanitary precautions like washing your hands,has anything to worry about.
    In general, I would agree. However, the 34-year old opthamologist who first reported COVID-19 to the Chinese authorities, and who knew what the sensible sanitary precautions were, died from it, so there are no absolutes as far as COVID-19 is concerned. My point to Joe was, its preliminary at this time to assume that "all will turn out well...". We just don't know and won't know for some time...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Calvin View Post
    I could care less about social media. I’m not on FB, Twit, etc. IMO, they are a waste of time. My friends contact by telephone and email when they desire to speak.

    However, I’m speaking of most journalism in general. Most of what we hear now is “commentary” from whatever perspective the news station endorses; i.e. if you haven’t noticed journalism has become highly partisan. And the NYT and WP are just as guilty in this area as are most others. You hear and read what they desire you to hear and read but only from their perspective. IMO there is very little of the “whole truth” in journalism today. Many are just a bunch of liars.
    I listen to Anthony Fauci's reports on news television for the data and guidance on this.

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    Anthony Fauci is not a liar.
    Respectfully, i never said he was. I stated, “Many are just a bunch of liars.” I didn’t state that all were! And Anthony Fauci isn’t even a journalist ...

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    Re: Coronavirus Live Updates

    I went shopping today and bought 2 weeks of food supply, hundreds of antibacterial tissues, soap, nitrile gloves. Already bought the masks back in January. Better safe than sorry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elberoth View Post
    Yes.

    Here's the thing...total lockdown actually works. Its disruptive to business, but it does work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elberoth View Post
    I went shopping today and bought 2 weeks of food supply, hundreds of antibacterial tissues, soap, nitrile gloves. Already bought the masks back in January. Better safe than sorry.
    Get some Sambucol if you can.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elberoth View Post
    I went shopping today and bought 2 weeks of food supply, hundreds of antibacterial tissues, soap, nitrile gloves. Already bought the masks back in January. Better safe than sorry.
    I agree, “better safe than sorry.” While we hope for the best, we prepare for the worst.

    We added to our CV supply today as well. Even found some Lysol disinfectant at Costco - limit of 2 per person. Plenty of toilet paper, gloves, tissues, and bottled water ... as well.

    PS: I’ve stopped purchasing CDs for a while as well. We don’t know who is touching all the stuff we receive in the mail. Downloads are much safer right now ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Puma Cat View Post
    Anthony Fauci is not a liar.
    Agree. That’s a guy worth paying attention to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Calvin View Post
    ....
    PS: I’ve stopped purchasing CDs for a while as well. We don’t know who is touching all the stuff we receive in the mail. Downloads are much safer right now ...
    I anticipated this years ago and stopped buying CDs then. I find streaming safer than downloads. FWIW.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeCh View Post
    Why is everyone buying bottled water? Is there a chance of the water supply being contaminated or something?

    Not buying CDs because somebody might have handled it with his illness pre shipment?...hmmm.

    Over reactionary?

    If you're concerned about CD cases having bugs on them why not just wipe them down like you would anything else you put in your hands during this time?
    Respectfully, water is a necessary staple of life. While I’m not concerned about the water supply being contaminated, since I live in Florida we always keep extra on hand. So, we are just adding more to our supply now. Why? My wife, a teacher at a school, will be using bottled water at work instead of filling up her cup using the school’s tap from a fountain. I also think my neighbors and other visitors may feel more comfortable drinking bottled water than tap from our frig - I know I would.

    Concerning CDs, it’s just not the CDs. There is the packaging - two weeks ago there was a used newspaper in the box from Japan. And there is the tape. And it’s the box itself passing thru many hands. Many of my SACDs are imported, so they pass thru even more hands. Since it was stated in one report that the virus can live on a surface for up to 13 days, I’d rather be safe than sorry.

    So, if you desire to think I’m over reacting, so be it. IMO, it doesn’t hurt to take some precautions.

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    I live in China and we’ve been managing with movement restrictions and lock downs for the past couple of months.

    It’s a sobering experience and one which I would not wish upon our U.S. based forum friends.

    It is widely believed (by locals) that the Chinese death toll is significantly under reported.

    To get a feel on what the mortality rate might really be, one might observe that Italy has reported 463 deaths and 9172 confirmed infections according to the BBC. That said, whilst high, one can’t assume Italy’s rate is given elsewhere because Italy has one of the world's oldest populations. The virus is particularly dangerous for the elderly and those with underlying health conditions.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Calvin View Post
    Respectfully, water is a necessary staple of life. While I’m not concerned about the water supply being contaminated, since I live in Florida we always keep extra on hand. So, we are just adding more to our supply now. Why? My wife, a teacher at a school, will be using bottled water at work instead of filling up her cup using the school’s tap from a fountain. I also think my neighbors and other visitors may feel more comfortable drinking bottled water than tap from our frig - I know I would.

    Concerning CDs, it’s just not the CDs. There is the packaging - two weeks ago there was a used newspaper in the box from Japan. And there is the tape. And it’s the box itself passing thru many hands. Many of my SACDs are imported, so they pass thru even more hands. Since it was stated in one report that the virus can live on a surface for up to 13 days, I’d rather be safe than sorry.

    So, if you desire to think I’m over reacting, so be it. IMO, it doesn’t hurt to take some precautions.
    Thank you for the concise reply. In those situations I agree that it makes sense to be very precautionary.

    Please stay safe everyone, as I will try to be myself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Puma Cat View Post
    Anthony Fauci is not a liar.
    agreed.
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    So whats the treatment if contaminated, how are the sick ones being taken Care of ..?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nicoff View Post
    I anticipated this years ago and stopped buying CDs then. I find streaming safer than downloads. FWIW.
    thanks guys, I just purchased a bunch of CD's at half price …..
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    Pearl Jam just postponed part of their upcoming tour due to the coronavirus


    There are now 717 coronavirus cases in the United States


    CNN’s latest updates: https://www.cnn.com/world/live-news/...hnk/index.html

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    I agree. While they should report what's happening they need to do it in a more balanced way.

    I seem to remember when the news was more about well I guess real news that was more balanced. I'm unsure how many real journalists still exist today.
    After what has come about, I’m questioning if it has ever?


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    Coronavirus Live Updates

    I’m increasingly concerned being here in Seattle.

    My wife is a pediatric nurse, they just secured entry to any visitor who is not the primary parent/custodian.

    A lot of of my friends are now working from home, traffic and restaurants seem to be slowing down because of it. Our industry trade show in Boston was canceled within 2 weeks of kick off.

    Throw in my factory workers at a fish plant, and production stops along with many other examples; flight attendants, first responders, etc.

    I’m not worried about me, but do now question others - this is becoming more and more crazy!


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    Quote Originally Posted by kiwi_1282001 View Post
    I live in China and we’ve been managing with movement restrictions and lock downs for the past couple of months.

    It’s a sobering experience and one which I would not wish upon our U.S. based forum friends.

    It is widely believed (by locals) that the Chinese death toll is significantly under reported.

    To get a feel on what the mortality rate might really be, one might observe that Italy has reported 463 deaths and 9172 confirmed infections according to the BBC. That said, whilst high, one can’t assume Italy’s rate is given elsewhere because Italy has one of the world's oldest populations. The virus is particularly dangerous for the elderly and those with underlying health conditions.


    Sources: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-51805727; https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/...235426110.html
    It is possible. Mortality rate in Italy is much greater @ over 5%. Those #s are definately real.
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    Pearl Jam just postponed part of their upcoming tour due to the coronavirus


    There are now 717 coronavirus cases in the United States
    Wow, that escalated quickly ! Same happened in Italy.

    I told my kids to stay at home till the end of the week. My doughter goes to the same class with the minister of health's son, and he have sent her a text message today that the schools will be closed starting from Monday anyway.

    Meanwhile, my wife got sick. Hope it is not a coronavirus. That would be ironic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UltraFast69 View Post
    I’m increasingly concerned being here in Seattle.

    My wife is a pediatric nurse, they just secured entry to any visitor who is not the primary parent/custodian.

    A lot of of my friends are now working from home, traffic and restaurants seem to be slowing down because of it. Our industry trade show in Boston was canceled within 2 weeks of kick off.

    Throw in my factory workers at a fish plant, and production stops along with many other examples; flight attendants, first responders, etc.

    I’m not worried about me, but do now question others - this is becoming more and more crazy!


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    agree, things are tense.

    this is real world sh*t.

    at the dealership i manage (10 miles south of the USA epicenter of COVID-19 at that rest home in Kirkland) my office manager texted me last night that a student at the school her daughter goes to has a confirmed case of COVID-19, which means her school is cancelled. it also could mean her daughter came in direct contact, and that she came in contact, and........

    i will know more this morning when we talk again. i may not see her for awhile.

    another employee's father works at a dealership in Kirkland that had 2 confirmed COVID-19 cases and that dealership was closed for 4 days for a deep cleaning. and now she is out ill and wants to return to work. we are developing a number of protocols to deal with how to allow people who go home ill to be able to return. it's a sticky wicket; which will need quarantine and which don't. they can't/won't test everyone, and who has come in contact with who?

    doing repeated cleaning in the dealership daily, and tonight we will do a whole building sanitizing 'fog' treatment.

    the freeways are sparse, like a Sunday morning. normally it's grid lock all the time.

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    No one mentioned yet Axpona postponed until Aug. 7. Or, did I miss a post?
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    Re: Coronavirus Live Updates

    I'd like to formally extend my apologies to Calvin (Joe) regarding my reply to his post about the news media yesterday with respect to the COVID-19 outbreak. I posted a reply about Dr. Anthony Fauci that was factual, but several members may have only read my reply, and thus, may have formed an assumption that Joe had made inaccurate statements about Dr. Fauci, which he did not.

    Upon reflection, I could have written that post in a way that represented where I was obtaining my information from Dr. Fauci's statements made on television media in a way that wouldn't have resulted in any mis-interpretation, so that was my bad on my part.

    He created this post to help inform people with respect to information about this outbreak and I fully support his efforts in that.

    So, with that, I sincerely extend my apologies to Joe and to any folks that may have mis-interpreted his, or my, post.

    And in that spirit of community, here is what I've found to be a very informative link about current status. It has more details per country, and one can select to view a narrower set of the overall data:

    https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries

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    Re: Coronavirus Live Updates

    Growth of COVID-19 cases as of today, March 10. COVID-19 is now entering an exponential phase of spread in the U.S. This matches exactly its epidemiological spread in other countries that are in this phase:


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    Many major Bay Area companies are imposing work from home policy for either 2 weeks or until end of the month. Google/Alphabet, Facebook, Twitter, Apple, Broadcom, Nutanix, Microsoft, HP, Intel, Amazon, Workday to name a few. I think many others will follow suit within this week.

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    Re: Coronavirus Live Updates

    In Austria:

    Outdoor: alls events >500 persons forbidden.

    Indoor: all events > 100 persons forbidden.

    All universities closed; all concerts, opera's, expo's cancelled. football without visitors.

    Border to italy closed.
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    Re: Coronavirus Live Updates

    Italian professor responsible for ICUs dedicated to COVID patients interviewed:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Puma Cat View Post
    Growth of COVID-19 cases as of today, March 10. COVID-19 is now entering an exponential phase of spread in the U.S. This matches exactly its epidemiological spread in other countries that are in this phase:

    This looks exactly like Italy just a few days back. They have over 10.000 diagnosed cases right now, with over 600 deaths so far. The median of patients is 65, which means that half of those people is younger than 65 years of age.

    I have read somwhere that some ppl over 80s are not admited to the ICUs, as their chances of survival are too small (which the prof. from the vid I posted basicly confirmed). With limited resources, doctors would rather treat younger people, with higher chances of survival (and longer life expectancy). This is basicly a war zone policy.

    Found it:
    https://www.politico.eu/article/coro...alls-survival/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elberoth View Post
    This looks exactly like Italy just a few days back. They have over 10.000 diagnosed cases right now, with over 600 deaths so far. The median of patients is 65, which means that half of those people is younger than 65 years of age.

    I have read somwhere that some ppl over 80s are not admited to the ICUs, as their chances of survival are too small (which the prof. from the vid I posted basicly confirmed). With limited resources, doctors would rather treat younger people, with higher chances of survival (and longer life expectancy). This is basicly a war zone policy.

    Found it:
    https://www.politico.eu/article/coro...alls-survival/
    Yes, I would predict that would be the case; the epidemiological "kinetics" have not changed, its just the U.S. is about 10 days behind Italy with respect to the initial cases. The R0 is likely the same in both countries; my guess is because of the R0, the virus has spread more quickly than the time it would need to mutate to a different R0, or level of virulence. The count of infected persons in the USA will likely tick over 1,000 before tomorrow. It was ~500 yesterday. I heard an epidemiologist predict today that in 6 weeks, we could have over 60,000 cases of infected persons in the U.S.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kzhtoo View Post
    Many major Bay Area companies are imposing work from home policy for either 2 weeks or until end of the month. Google/Alphabet, Facebook, Twitter, Apple, Broadcom, Nutanix, Microsoft, HP, Intel, Amazon, Workday to name a few. I think many others will follow suit within this week.
    I wonder what everyone is really thinking by a select few working remotely and the others on the frontline conducting efforts - no different than the military, getting the job done.


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    Quote Originally Posted by kzhtoo View Post
    Many major Bay Area companies are imposing work from home policy for either 2 weeks or until end of the month. Google/Alphabet, Facebook, Twitter, Apple, Broadcom, Nutanix, Microsoft, HP, Intel, Amazon, Workday to name a few. I think many others will follow suit within this week.
    My wife got back home on the weekend after being in London and the North of Italy for 1 month. My wife has zero symptoms

    I am now working from home for 14 days quarantine from work, which is a multinational. they have a pretty strong BCM program.
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    Watched this yesterday and thought it was very informative.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3URhJx0NSw
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    Quote Originally Posted by RickS View Post
    Watched this yesterday and thought it was very informative.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3URhJx0NSw

    In the first 5 minutes of the above video Michael Osterholm Ph.D, a health scientist, biosecurity and infectious disease expert, outlines his conservative projected impact of Covid-19 in the US:


    Over the next 3 to 7 months

    Ro = 2.5, doubling time 7-10 days
    96 million cases
    4.8 million hospital admissions
    Over 480,000 deaths


    His advice, avoid large public spaces.
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    I saw this from a tweet on March 5 by Jacob Canfield who is a financial statistical modeler, but also has a background in biology and studies infectious diseases as a personal interest. This model was fairly sound, but it appears, conservative:

    From Jacob:
    Back of the napkin estimate of possible Covid-19 spread in the USA.

    Assumptions (IF):
    - R0 = 3
    - infectious period: 30d
    - US infected today: 34×3=102

    Projected # of infections:
    2,700 in 3 months
    75k in 6 months
    2M in 9 months
    54M in 12 months


    It appears that his initial estimate of cases was conservative, because, in my estimation, we will be at 2,700 by next week (if not sooner). We are into the exponential increase in cases phase presently, so we could be at >2,000 cases by the weekend.

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    Micheal Osterholm, infectious disease expert at the University of Minnesota warned us in 2005.

    https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/10/opini...gen/index.html

    He says the RO will be 2.0 - 2.5

    The virus itself is not the real killer as most who are infected will recover.
    Most deaths will happen due to the inability of medical facilities to treat the increasing number of severely effected people.
    Shear numbers of patients over taxing an ill-prepared and under supplied health care system.
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    WHO has declared the Coronavirus a pandemic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gene View Post
    Micheal Osterholm, infectious disease expert at the University of Minnesota warned us in 2005.

    https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/10/opini...gen/index.html

    He says the RO will be 2.0 - 2.5

    The virus itself is not the real killer as most who are infected will recover.
    Most deaths will happen due to the inability of medical facilities to treat the increasing number of severely effected people.
    Shear numbers of patients over taxing an ill-prepared and under supplied health care system.
    Just to put some things into perspective, the Spanish Influenza of 1918, where an estimated 500 million people died, had an R0 of 1.8. "Regular" Influenza B has an R0 of ~1.3. With an R0 > than the Spanish flu, and approximately 2X than of H3N2, this is still a signficant level of infectiousness (virulence). Also, with current lethality index of 3.5 to 3.7, this is > 30X the lethality index of most influenzas that go around every winter. This virus is no joke..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Puma Cat View Post
    Just to put some things into perspective, the Spanish Influenza of 1918, where an estimated 500 million people died, had an R0 of 1.8. "Regular" Influenza B has an R0 of ~1.3. With an R0 > than the Spanish flu, and approximately 2X than of H3N2, this is still a signficant level of infectiousness (virulence). Also, with current lethality index of 3.5 to 3.7, this is > 30X the lethality index of most influenzas that go around every winter. This virus is no joke..
    The mortality rate is currently 6.6% in Italy. Scary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alpinist View Post
    The mortality rate is currently 6.6% in Italy. Scary.

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    Yes. I have a personal hypothesis that a new strain of COVID evolved in Italy that is more virulent. Viral strains will mutate if they pass through enough individuals. There is a likelihood that the strain in Italy in some individuals is no longer COVID-19, its COVID-X.

    This pattern of organism mutation is what evolutionary biologists call "selection pressure". The theory behind selection pressure is that organisms will evolve to a higher state of "fitness" (fitness being defined as the ability to survive long enough to reproduce). This was the public health problem for managing HIV, for example, is that the virus mutated exceptionally rapidly.

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    This is BY FAR the best article on coronavirus. You can skip the rest.

    https://medium.com/@tomaspueyo/coron...e-f4d3d9cd99ca
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