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    Cataract Surgery

    Anyone on here have Cataract Surgery. I'm scheduled for my right eye Dec 6th and left eye Dec 20th. I'm going to have the laser process done and its a bummer insurance doesn't cover the total laser procedure. Insurance will cover for some surgeon to cut your eye and remove and insert the new lens, but Medicare nor regular insurance will not cover for a computer to do the same thing which is more accurate and better results. Cost, anywhere from $1495 to 2995 per eye and depending on your eye and its current vision requirements you still might need reading glasses. . Insurance , gee.
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    Re: Cataract Surgery

    My right eye surgery is schelued for Dec. 20.

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    Re: Cataract Surgery

    I had my Mom’s eyes done going on 2 years ago. We did laser too, on both. Extra $1500 per eye. First was absolutely necessary because the lens hardened and was a bear to break up. He was happy we went that way. After all said and done it was worth it. Her vision was 20/20 for distance but now needs reading glasses.
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    Re: Cataract Surgery

    The reason you still need reading glasses after cataract surgery is because age-related near vision problems (presbyopia) has nothing to do with clouding of the lens, which is what cataract is. With age - usually sometime after 40 --the lens loses some of its ability to change shape enough to accommodate for seeing close up.

    There's no good treatment for age related near vision loss--dammit! I hate having to stash reading glasses all over the house.
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    I do the same with reading glasses. What a pain.

    Mom’s lenses were definitely cloudy and getting worse.
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    Re: Cataract Surgery

    By accident I found a good book on the subject at the public library. (it was one section before the NEC code book.

    Title Cataract surgery : a guide to treatment Author Garland, Paul E. (Ophthalmologist) Publisher:Addicus Books, Inc.,Pub date:[2015]Pages:120 pages :ISBN:9781943886043

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    Quote Originally Posted by rrwmd View Post
    The reason you still need reading glasses after cataract surgery is because age-related near vision problems (presbyopia) has nothing to do with clouding of the lens, which is what cataract is. With age - usually sometime after 40 --the lens loses some of its ability to change shape enough to accommodate for seeing close up.

    There's no good treatment for age related near vision loss--dammit! I hate having to stash reading glasses all over the house.
    Yep age related for sure, I'm 66 or will be in 8 days so all I'm looking for is a major improvement from my finger tips with my arms stretched out to infinity which the surgeon said it should be NO problem if my eye cooperates. I go for my eye measurements the 21 of this month. That measurement data provided by laser technology measures the length and other particulars of the eye. Measuring the eye accurately allows the eye surgeon to advise based on the measurement provided by the computer which lens to implant
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    Yeah Chris, it’s pretty cool how all the measurements give them the exact lens power, etc. to usually result in 20/20ish vision and no need for distance glasses.

    Hope everything goes well.

    (My wife’s a cataract surgeon and I’m amazed at the results she can achieve. Her patients give her the biggest hugs!)
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    Re: Cataract Surgery

    I had my first eye done when I was around 37 and the second eye done when I was 41. So I would have to say it's really not age related. I asked my eye surgeon if I was a little young for the procedure and he said no. Older folks have more of a problem but he said he has done cataract surgery on infants.

    He said the reason I need readers is the lens can't change shape to focus like a natural lens. I went from 20/250 to 20/10 with the first eye and 20/200 for the second eye to to 20/25. Colors seem more vibrant but I honestly can't remember how colors looked when I had 20/20 before the cataracts. I would say if the surgery is needed it's a no brainer. Recovery time is supposed to a lot less than went i had it done. Back then it was 8 to 12 weeks. I hear now days it's just a few days.
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    Re: Cataract Surgery

    Quote Originally Posted by octadyndude View Post
    I had my first eye done when I was around 37 and the second eye done when I was 41. So I would have to say it's really not age related. I asked my eye surgeon if I was a little young for the procedure and he said no. Older folks have more of a problem but he said he has done cataract surgery on infants.

    He said the reason I need readers is the lens can't change shape to focus like a natural lens. I went from 20/250 to 20/10 with the first eye and 20/200 for the second eye to to 20/25. Colors seem more vibrant but I honestly can't remember how colors looked when I had 20/20 before the cataracts. I would say if the surgery is needed it's a no brainer. Recovery time is supposed to a lot less than went i had it done. Back then it was 8 to 12 weeks. I hear now days it's just a few days.
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    I have incredibly bad eyes and that the only way I can fix mine. I’ve heard the new lenses on last 20 years or so. I’m too young for that, so I had to pass


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    The lens implants last indefinitely Kyle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rrwmd View Post
    The lens implants last indefinitely Kyle.
    I heard the can cloud after 20 years or so


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    Re: Cataract Surgery

    Well the first eye is done had my post op appt yesterday, with some swelling still there which it should, my right eye now is 20/25 and it will only get better. The blues, reds, golds whites ,oranges and yellows are so vivid. The surgery with laser only took 14 min. Once the other eye is done on the 20th it should be a whole new world of color and clarity .
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    Quote Originally Posted by CPP View Post
    Well the first eye is done had my post op appt yesterday, with some swelling still there which it should, my right eye now is 20/25 and it will only get better. The blues, reds, golds whites ,oranges and yellows are so vivid. The surgery with laser only took 14 min. Once the other eye is done on the 20th it should be a whole new world of color and clarity .
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    Quote Originally Posted by CPP View Post
    Well the first eye is done had my post op appt yesterday, with some swelling still there which it should, my right eye now is 20/25 and it will only get better. The blues, reds, golds whites ,oranges and yellows are so vivid. The surgery with laser only took 14 min. Once the other eye is done on the 20th it should be a whole new world of color and clarity .
    Congrats Chris. Did they say what the recovery time should normally be? Was forever when I had mine done. Did the remove the cataract with a laser or lens replacement? Mine was a lens replacement. Never felt the stitches with my first eye but they drove me bonkers with the second eye.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CPP View Post
    Well the first eye is done had my post op appt yesterday, with some swelling still there which it should, my right eye now is 20/25 and it will only get better. The blues, reds, golds whites ,oranges and yellows are so vivid. The surgery with laser only took 14 min. Once the other eye is done on the 20th it should be a whole new world of color and clarity .
    Fantastic man! Good luck with #2.


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    Did you say you were color bind and can now see color?
    Glad it went well. My mom and father in law have them. lots of people I know have them. They work great. So its sounds like you opted to get the vision corrected as well as clear out the cataract.
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    Quote Originally Posted by octadyndude View Post
    Congrats Chris. Did they say what the recovery time should normally be? Was forever when I had mine done. Did the remove the cataract with a laser or lens replacement? Mine was a lens replacement. Never felt the stitches with my first eye but they drove me bonkers with the second eye.
    recovery time depends on the age, your eye condition before surgery. I was told for one eye it could take weeks for recovery as long as you follow the recovery guidelines and are maintaining the drops until they run out for the operative eye. . My intraocular lens was flexible and required NO stiches.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kingrex View Post
    Did you say you were color bind and can now see color?
    Glad it went well. My mom and father in law have them. lots of people I know have them. They work great. So its sounds like you opted to get the vision corrected as well as clear out the cataract.
    Rex, I could always see, blue, yellow oranges, my color blindness is a very light red and light brown/green when they are close together. Nothing will fix that but I have a better chance of seeing those color by themselves now as they now are more vivid. .That cataract is basically a yellowish, brownish creamy color that impacts the colors and detail you see. The doc told me its like looking through a par of brownish tinted sunglasses. Even during the surgery after the laser did its work and since you are awake and told to stare at the center of this laser, I could tell when the cataract was broken up things got clear. OF course your eye is held wide open with some medieval contraption, but after the doc using some little sucker removed the pieces of the old cataract and install and did a unfold of the new lens, I could see the clock in the room and white is really white..


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    Yea that was my confusion. I knew the Rods or Cones made the color. When you said colors were vivid I got wondering how a lenses would help. Makes sense the colors are popping. Glad it went off without a hitch for you.

    By the way, did you see the 60 minutes where they do these operation in Mongolia or some place for $8 for the local people. Grind the lenses on site. Its seems to be a pretty simple operation now.

    Quote Originally Posted by CPP View Post
    Rex, I could always see, blue, yellow oranges, my color blindness is a very light red and light brown/green when they are close together. Nothing will fix that but I have a better chance of seeing those color by themselves now as they now are more vivid. .That cataract is basically a yellowish, brownish creamy color that impacts the colors and detail you see. The doc told me its like looking through a par of brownish tinted sunglasses. Even during the surgery after the laser did its work and since you are awake and told to stare at the center of this laser, I could tell when the cataract was broken up things got clear. OF course your eye is held wide open with some medieval contraption, but after the doc using some little sucker removed the pieces of the old cataract and install and did a unfold of the new lens, I could see the clock in the room and white is really white..


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    I saw that 60 min special. It was part of the $100million Himalayan Cataract Project,. In the country of Burma.

    Rex not sure I would call it simple, nothing involving any kind of surgery is simple. Thanks to the medical talents of the surgeons, the procedures are routine as long as the patient is in good health. Risks ,
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    My first eye is scheduled for Thursday Dec. 20. I scheduled it then because there is not much speedskating ice over the holidays, so I won't miss much practice. But tracking down the special eye drops was a pain. The prescription never made it to the pharmacy. And I was waiting for them to call which wasn't going to happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Speedskater View Post
    My first eye is scheduled for Thursday Dec. 20. I scheduled it then because there is not much speedskating ice over the holidays, so I won't miss much practice. But tracking down the special eye drops was a pain. The prescription never made it to the pharmacy. And I was waiting for them to call which wasn't going to happen.
    Why did't you call your surgeon and have them follow up on your drop series.
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    Why didn't you call your surgeon and have them follow up on your drop series.
    I have the eye drops now, so I'm good to go next week.

    After I spoke to the surgeon (on other matters) I called the pharmacy Friday, but the person had left early because they had a blizzard on the way. Monday she was still shoving snow. She made it to work on Tuesday, then she reached the surgeon for the prescription. It arrived Thursday afternoon.

    I stopped by the surgery center to drop of some information (rather than try to do it over the phone)(the center was only a mile out of my way). Anyway the staff were the nicest medical staff I have ever meet.

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    The disconnectedness of the medical society leaves me underwhelmed. I use to revere doctors. Now I find them akin to a horse with blinders.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Speedskater View Post
    I have the eye drops now, so I'm good to go next week.

    After I spoke to the surgeon (on other matters) I called the pharmacy Friday, but the person had left early because they had a blizzard on the way. Monday she was still shoving snow. She made it to work on Tuesday, then she reached the surgeon for the prescription. It arrived Thursday afternoon.

    I stopped by the surgery center to drop of some information (rather than try to do it over the phone)(the center was only a mile out of my way). Anyway the staff were the nicest medical staff I have ever meet.
    I start my drops ( Steroid, Anti-Inflammatory and Antibiotic) Monday for my left eye. And even after surgery you still use the drops for the operative eye until they are gone.
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    Speed, it's good you prepared. Do you have a naturopath or someone who prepped you. There is a small trying to grow industry that preps people for surgery. Tells you what to eat. Medication to have on hand. Preschedule follow up etc. Doctors and their teams do nothing to prepare a patient. From what I have seen.
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    I just counted them up. There are 150 scheduled eye drop applications over a 32 day period.

    I have had two other types of surgery in the last four years, so I know the drill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kingrex View Post
    Speed, it's good you prepared. Do you have a naturopath or someone who prepped you. There is a small trying to grow industry that preps people for surgery. Tells you what to eat. Medication to have on hand. Preschedule follow up etc. Doctors and their teams do nothing to prepare a patient. From what I have seen.
    Thats so incorrect. Not sure what backwoods doctors you see, but every doctor I've been to in the last 25 years, handles everything you said they didn't. If you want to discuss, please start another thread. Thanls
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    Quote Originally Posted by Speedskater View Post
    I just counted them up. There are 150 scheduled eye drop applications over a 32 day period.

    I have had two other types of surgery in the last four years, so I know the drill.
    Those little drops are $$$, just glad I got the insurance to assist. Oh and the little eye shield they will give you , is worth wearing for sleeping or if you are a person that subconsciously rubs their eyes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kingrex View Post
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    Preschedule follow up etc. Doctors and their teams do nothing to prepare a patient. From what I have seen.
    I can make both sides of this discussion.
    Including the major hospital chain in Cleveland.

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    Had my last post op appt yesterday. 20-20- both eyes, but will still need reading glasses for up close reading when I set down for a good book or to adjust my TT arm. So far very impressed with my surgeon and the laser process.
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    Glad to see you are doing well. My son-in-law is an opthalmologist at the VA in Los Angeles (so if you are a vet in LA he may well be doing your cataract surgery.) He also is an adjunct faculty member at UCLA and trains a lot of the opthalmology residents there including doing cataract surgery. He tells me that cataract surgery is pretty routine these days with very good results. With the demographics of vets, there will be more and more need for cataract surgery.

    I think of a time when what an opthalmologist routinely does today would have been considered a miracle, restoring eyesight to the blind.

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    Great, glad all went well.

    Quote Originally Posted by CPP View Post
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