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October 26, 2020, 09:03 AM #51
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That's beautiful. You are making good use of the space. But like you said, it's tight.
The A3s and A5s are close to the same size:
A3: 44”H x 11”D x 9.25”W (FR: 26 Hz – 50 KHz)
A5: 44.75”H x 14.9”D x 10.5”W (FR: 24 Hz – 50 kHz)
As compared to:
A1: 15.6”H x 12”D x 8.5”W (FR: 35 Hz – 50 KHz)
So, I'd feel comfortable with either A3 or A5. In your space, I wouldn't feel comfortable with A1s on a stand so close to what I think maybe a doorway though ... but that's just me.
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October 26, 2020, 09:08 AM #52
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Yup I'm with you concerning A1's plus I don't like the look of bookshelves.
Sadly I can't push the walls! I keep on looking but I keep on coming back to the A3's...
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October 26, 2020, 11:36 AM #53
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Digital: Innuos Zenith Mk3 Server + MSB Premier DAC with Powerbase
Amp: Gryphon Pandora + Gryphon Antileon Evo Stereo
Speakers: Magico S3 MkII
Cables: MIT SL-Matrix 36 XLR interconnect cables + 70 speaker cables; AQ Diamond & Vodka ethernet cables
Power: AQ Niagara 5000 + AQ Tornado power cables
Headphones (travel): Sennheiser Momentum + Chord Mojo
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October 26, 2020, 11:42 AM #54
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Digital: Innuos Zenith Mk3 Server + MSB Premier DAC with Powerbase
Amp: Gryphon Pandora + Gryphon Antileon Evo Stereo
Speakers: Magico S3 MkII
Cables: MIT SL-Matrix 36 XLR interconnect cables + 70 speaker cables; AQ Diamond & Vodka ethernet cables
Power: AQ Niagara 5000 + AQ Tornado power cables
Headphones (travel): Sennheiser Momentum + Chord Mojo
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October 26, 2020, 11:47 AM #55
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October 26, 2020, 11:49 AM #56
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Digital: Innuos Zenith Mk3 Server + MSB Premier DAC with Powerbase
Amp: Gryphon Pandora + Gryphon Antileon Evo Stereo
Speakers: Magico S3 MkII
Cables: MIT SL-Matrix 36 XLR interconnect cables + 70 speaker cables; AQ Diamond & Vodka ethernet cables
Power: AQ Niagara 5000 + AQ Tornado power cables
Headphones (travel): Sennheiser Momentum + Chord Mojo
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October 26, 2020, 11:51 AM #57
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Sorry if I missed it, assuming you will stream digital at least for some music, what DAC will you go with?
Digital: Innuos Zenith Mk3 Server + MSB Premier DAC with Powerbase
Amp: Gryphon Pandora + Gryphon Antileon Evo Stereo
Speakers: Magico S3 MkII
Cables: MIT SL-Matrix 36 XLR interconnect cables + 70 speaker cables; AQ Diamond & Vodka ethernet cables
Power: AQ Niagara 5000 + AQ Tornado power cables
Headphones (travel): Sennheiser Momentum + Chord Mojo
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October 26, 2020, 11:51 AM #58
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Thank you I will keep updated!
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October 26, 2020, 11:52 AM #59
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Yes I want a simple streaming system. Thinking about using the new aurender N20 as a source and going for the Zena DAC module of the preamp for simplicity reasons.
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October 26, 2020, 11:54 AM #60
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Digital: Innuos Zenith Mk3 Server + MSB Premier DAC with Powerbase
Amp: Gryphon Pandora + Gryphon Antileon Evo Stereo
Speakers: Magico S3 MkII
Cables: MIT SL-Matrix 36 XLR interconnect cables + 70 speaker cables; AQ Diamond & Vodka ethernet cables
Power: AQ Niagara 5000 + AQ Tornado power cables
Headphones (travel): Sennheiser Momentum + Chord Mojo
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October 26, 2020, 12:01 PM #61
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Just to put an idea out there for you to consider. Not sure of your budget or how this stacks up cost-wise against your idea. Maybe an all in one Lumin X1? Couldn’t get more simpler, and from previous experience with Lumin you will get quality sound and amazing after sales service (especially with Peter on this forum). Just an idea.
Digital: Innuos Zenith Mk3 Server + MSB Premier DAC with Powerbase
Amp: Gryphon Pandora + Gryphon Antileon Evo Stereo
Speakers: Magico S3 MkII
Cables: MIT SL-Matrix 36 XLR interconnect cables + 70 speaker cables; AQ Diamond & Vodka ethernet cables
Power: AQ Niagara 5000 + AQ Tornado power cables
Headphones (travel): Sennheiser Momentum + Chord Mojo
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October 26, 2020, 12:04 PM #62
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October 26, 2020, 12:05 PM #63Digital: Innuos Zenith Mk3 Server + MSB Premier DAC with Powerbase
Amp: Gryphon Pandora + Gryphon Antileon Evo Stereo
Speakers: Magico S3 MkII
Cables: MIT SL-Matrix 36 XLR interconnect cables + 70 speaker cables; AQ Diamond & Vodka ethernet cables
Power: AQ Niagara 5000 + AQ Tornado power cables
Headphones (travel): Sennheiser Momentum + Chord Mojo
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October 26, 2020, 12:06 PM #64
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Essence with the A5s is perfect IMO. Sometimes I wish I had gone down that path and saved a lot of money
Digital: Innuos Zenith Mk3 Server + MSB Premier DAC with Powerbase
Amp: Gryphon Pandora + Gryphon Antileon Evo Stereo
Speakers: Magico S3 MkII
Cables: MIT SL-Matrix 36 XLR interconnect cables + 70 speaker cables; AQ Diamond & Vodka ethernet cables
Power: AQ Niagara 5000 + AQ Tornado power cables
Headphones (travel): Sennheiser Momentum + Chord Mojo
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October 26, 2020, 12:09 PM #65
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My reasoning for the gryphon DAC is that it can be considered an economic solution and it doesn’t prevent me from trying other DACS in the future.
Another idea is that it will also reinforce the gryphon house sound used in combination.
The next step up would be going the MSB route which would cost a lot more.
For a streamer DAC I had also thought of the DCS bartok but I can’t listen to it.
As of lumin, I was also thinking about the X1. I think it’s about the same price as the aurender.
I did an audition a few weeks ago between a lumin an auralic and an aurender and I couldn’t listen to the lumin because of the highs. I don’t recall which model it was. I’m sure the X1 is a great piece but maybe it needs careful pairing.
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October 26, 2020, 12:10 PM #66
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He has them in the shop. Keeps telling me they won’t work in my room
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October 26, 2020, 07:03 PM #67
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Hi Alchemist,
I'm considering a similar system as you, except to go with the A5's. Have you considered the MSB Discrete w/Powerbase? It would be less expensive than the Essence pre/DAC, possibly offer better sound, and possibly offer a better upgrade path. Unfortunately, I haven't been able to listen to any of the gear yet, just browsing on sites like this.Amps: Devialet E440's
Sources: Innuos Zenith Mk III (Roon Core), Innuos PhoenixNET
Speakers: Magnepan 3.7i's
Power: Shunyata Triton V3
Cabling: Shunyata Power, Cardas Speaker, Sablon Audio USB, Nordost & Wireworld Enet, DH Labs HDMI's
Racks/Footers: Box Furniture Co Custom Rack, Symposium RollerBlocks, Voodoo Iso-Pods, Herbie's Audio Lab (many)
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October 26, 2020, 07:37 PM #68
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Hi BobK,
I actually have and wanted to use this as streamer - roon endpoint /dac / pre and go directly into a power amp.
I've heard different opinions about doing this. Some in favor, most saying that using a pre is better.
I actually have listened to it feeding a soulution 330. We did A/B between the soulution dac and the msb and the msb was better. More dense.
What I am actually thinking is that an essence pre + dac would work better in combo than with the msb direct into the power amp because they're designed to work together.
However, I also guesstimate that the msb as dac + pre + amp would be better than previous if you fully load the discrete ie power base, usb, etc...
I think a lot has to do with synergies and what components you intend to use...
Another candidate for this is the DCS Bartok.
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October 26, 2020, 11:01 PM #69
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The synergy of power supplies, circuitry and wiring are some of what makes the same brand pre amplifier match the amplifier, breaking this is possible, but best done by in home listening IMO assuming you can. You can always use an integrated amplifier, and add the streamer then your safe.
Looking forward to hear what decision you made, and post photos. Best!
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October 27, 2020, 05:33 AM #70
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October 27, 2020, 03:20 PM #71
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October 27, 2020, 05:19 PM #72
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Hi FDPDK,
I didn't say it was the X1 and I even said I didn't recall which model it was and I exercised a word of caution by saying maybe it needs careful pairing.
The audition was lumin - soulution 330 + dac - magico a1
Then we went from the lumin to auralic to aurender. I dont think it was the highest models of streamers for each.
The highs on the lumin were not good at all with this combo.
I will audition again later this week normally and I can let you know which one it was if you're interested.
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October 28, 2020, 02:42 PM #73
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_Alchemist_ its very kind of you to perform another listen , for me personally its not necessary as i have heard the Lumin X1 on several occasions and also had it on loan here in my own system. And i did find it very very good in all areas of performance.
I still hope i can make it financially next year so i can get the Lumin X1 , as its on my top priority.Flemming
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October 28, 2020, 02:48 PM #74
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October 30, 2020, 04:10 AM #75
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I'm using a Lumin X1 with my Gryphon Diablo 300 and very happy with them, but I really want to check out the Essence pre/pro combo. Alchemist if you do get the all Gryphon package I'll be very interested to hear your thoughts.
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October 30, 2020, 04:26 AM #76
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Hi Jeff, if you're in HK I think Radar audio has them on demo.
Regardless, I'm thinking maybe to go to Denmark for a couple of days to try and listen to this combo and some speakers.
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October 31, 2020, 02:22 PM #77
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Flemming
Lumin X1
Rotel Michi S5
Focus Audio FS788
Inter connect : Nordost Tyr 2 ( 2 Meter )
LS cable : Yter
Power Cables : Nordost Frey 2 ( 2 Meter )
Nordost QB8
Fibercable for feeding the Lumin X1
Rack : Finite Elemente Pagode
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October 31, 2020, 11:01 PM #78
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I have studied the hi-end DAC marketplace extensively and I have two comments for you:
(1) We both know the core input source to your system, esp if you mostly use Tidal and Qobuz hi-res streaming, is the most crucial choice of all. Everything downstream of that will never exceed what is fed into it no matter how expensive of good these components are
(2) So choose your streaming device and DAC (maybe one unit) very carefully and research very closely. You'll be repaid a hundred times if you do. Others here may disagree, but IMO there are only two entities producing truly outstanding DACs and these are dCS and MSB. These are companies that are deep DAC specialists and it is a highly technically sophisticated area of audio technology and accordingly, companies that do DACs and much else almost always produce good or bad DAcs but never truly sonically outstanding DACs. I personally purchased a dCS Bartok (dCS entry-level unit) and my listening experience was and is absolutely transformed by that choice. I have never had such a magical and radical change in sonic enjoyment from one piece of equipment, ever, period. And every better component-wise you add downstream to that DAC just makes the whole better and better as the first source is so remarkable in its capabilities to deliver analogue output from digital beginnings. Read the most reputable reviews of dCS and MSB DACs and you will appreciate what these units can do. More importantly, listen to them pre-purchase if possible. Note how most truly hi-end manufacturers use dCS or MSB DACs in their demo rooms at shows - this is not a coincidence.
Finally, there are audiophiles I know well and trust and who love and own big Gryphon gear and they would not and have not bought Gryphon DACs, they consider them good but not the best by far. They own mostly dCS units as it happens.
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November 18, 2020, 02:48 PM #79
Gryphon Essence amp & preamp
https://gryphon-audio.dk/wp-content/...sence_Mono.pdf
Stereophile Gryphon Essence Review.
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November 27, 2020, 01:27 PM #80
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November 28, 2020, 07:24 AM #81
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NebobDK , welcome to the Forum , and that was also what i was aware of that there might only be one dealer here which is sad. And i dont know why it is like that.
What was the speakers ? and cables used ?
What music was you listening to. ?Flemming
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November 28, 2020, 10:27 AM #82
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Cables were Gryphons Vanta and loudspeakers were Gryphon Mojo and YG Carmel. Source was some highend vinyl rig. We listened to blues, jazz, and classical (e.g. John Lanchbery’s La Fille Mal Gardee and J.S. Ondara American Dream). I brought my own Luxman c-900u preamp, and there is no doubt that the Essence preamp is a MUCH better partner with the Essence power amp. That should not come as a big surprise, but I was still astounded by the difference in soundstage, smoothness and the way music flowed from the speakers when the Gryphons played together.
I am very curious to audition the Essence siblings with my Vivid Audio speakers..
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November 29, 2020, 07:03 AM #83
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Thank you very much NebobDK
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Lumin X1
Rotel Michi S5
Focus Audio FS788
Inter connect : Nordost Tyr 2 ( 2 Meter )
LS cable : Yter
Power Cables : Nordost Frey 2 ( 2 Meter )
Nordost QB8
Fibercable for feeding the Lumin X1
Rack : Finite Elemente Pagode
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December 5, 2020, 08:55 AM #84
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Well, I’ve owned the essence combo for 2 1/2 months and wanted to explain the Green Bias feature of the Gryphon Essence combo if folks are thinking about buying the combo (Yes I bought mine from SunCoast Audio). My goal is to get a decent sound but make sure synergy is the number one priority without a million trial and errors. I’ve only been at this for 20 years and I’m still making mistakes. I realize there are better pre amps and dac's (yes the MSB stack is way better) but I wanted semi simplicity.The Green Bias connection between the amp and pre amp is slick as heck. First it allows you to leave the unit on 24/7 and the amp is cold to the touch. I keep the combo in stealth mode so 99% of indicator are off. I use to own a Luxman 590AX many moons ago and it was a little space heater if I left it on 24/7. The Bias connection also serves as trigger switch to turn the amp on and off, you control the Bias in two modes low or high settings thru the volume control.
Low setting: volume control: 00-09 low bias (light bar green), 10-19 medium bias (light bar red), 20-42 (high bias light bar red)
High setting: volume control: 00-15 low bias (light bar green),16-25 medium bias (light bar red), 26-42 high bias (light bar red)
I prefer the medium and high bias, it is way better than low bias for critical listening. If you want pure class A at a lower volume you have to disconnect the cord which I’ve done if I want listen at super low volume.Gryphon Essence stereo amp and preamp/dac Hurricane power cords
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December 14, 2020, 05:22 AM #85
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I am a bit puzzled about you description regarding the medium bias. My dealer tells me that the Essence power amp can only run low and high bias. He did ask a tech guy at Gryphon. The inclusion of the medium bias interval on the Essence preamp is for pairing with Antileon and Mephisto amps that both have three bias levels. With the Essence pair, I listened to, the power amp went straight from low bias to high bias - green to red light - at volume 16.
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December 14, 2020, 11:15 PM #86
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When the essence amp is operated without the green bias wire you have low and high bias:
page 15 of the essence amp manual.
Low, med and high when using the green bias with gryphon preamp: page 16 of the gryphon preamp manual.
Maybe I’m reading the manual incorrectly but I don’t think so. LMKGryphon Essence stereo amp and preamp/dac Hurricane power cords
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December 14, 2020, 11:26 PM #87
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December 15, 2020, 03:19 AM #88
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The Essence Preamp has three biases, low, mid and high, just like the Antileon and Mephisto amps. But the Essence amp only has two, high and low. When the two Essence are paired, if the amplifier receives the low bias command, this is the one it adopts, and if it receives the medium or high bias it adopts the high bias.
Page 19 of the Gryphon Amplifier Manual
“The Essence Power will change to Bias High if receiving “Bias Medium” and “Bias High” commands from the preamplifier .
It will change to Bias Low if receiving “Bias Low” command from the preamplifier”Francisco
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February 9, 2021, 07:54 AM #89
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February 9, 2021, 11:08 AM #90
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Looks futuristic and well built
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February 11, 2021, 08:05 AM #91
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Dealer for: Aqua Hi-Fi, Aurender, AudioQuest Cables & Power Products, Berkeley Audio, Block Audio (distributor), Boulder Amplifiers, Bowers & Wilkins (B&W), Bryston, Clarisys Audio Loudspeakers (distributor), Classe’ Audio, Degritter Record Cleaning Machines, Esoteric, Finite Elemente, FirstWatt, Focal Loudspeakers and Headphones, GigaFoil, Harbeth Loudspeakers, Hegel, HiFi Man, Innuos, ISO Acoustics, Keces Power Supplies, Kharma Loudspeakers and Electronics, Kuzma Turntables, Lumin, Luxman, Magico Loudspeakers, MBL Speakers & Electronics, MSB Technologies, MySonicLabs Phono Cartridges, Nordost Cables, Ortofon, Pass Labs, Quadraspire, Rega Turntables and Electronics, Shunyata Research, STAX, Stein Music Products, Stillpoints, Soulution, VAC, Vicoustics, Viva Audio, VPI Industries, WireWorld Cables.
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February 11, 2021, 08:51 AM #92
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Read both this & the preceding Aussie review - I'll take the Aussie review every day of the week & twice on Sundays - how do I spell bias
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March 7, 2021, 10:20 PM #93
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6 Moons review. Synergy is a thing!
Apols if been posted already.
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March 7, 2021, 11:20 PM #94
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May 9, 2021, 12:13 PM #95
Re: Gryphon Essence amp & preamp
I'm thinking of putting a Center Stage 1.5 under the Essence amp. Do you know if the feet can be easily removed?
Francisco
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January 23, 2022, 08:12 AM #96
Re: Gryphon Essence amp & preamp
“ Class A
True Class A operation has always been a Gryphon benchmark, simply because nothing in our experience can match the sonic glories of pure Class A.
Unfortunately, true Class A is even rarer today than when we originally introduced the DM100. Rising consumer awareness has forced some manufacturers to stop making outrageous, unsubstantiated claims of Class A power ratings that only exist in the fevered imagination of some marketing "expert".
Still, there is a growing number of so-called “new” Class A topologies based on automatic biasing which somehow allows the amplifier to sense when the bias should increase to ensure constant Class A performance!
If such a thing were to work as claimed, it would be tantamount to a re-writing of the laws of physics. In order for an amplifier to be able to increase bias and stabilize thermally to instantaneously meet the dynamics of the input, it would have to be able to predict what is going to happen next on the recording. Auto-biasing can by nature only respond to something that has already happened and the bias will rush up and down in a desperate attempt to follow the last note.
Put bluntly, there is no such thing as a free lunch when it comes to pure Class A, so we state with no apologies: True, pure CLASS A means heavy transformers, very large heatsinks, lots of heat, lots of electricity, expensive parts and costly assembly.”
Truer words were never spoken about Class A. Cutting through the BS. Gryphon gets it.
Ken"No summit worth climbing is easily attained."
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Source: MSB Select II DAC with Two Mono Powerbases and Femto 33 Clock; Renderer V2 Digital Input Module and Roon Nucleus Plus; MSB UMT V Signature Transport
Amps: Vandersteen M7-HPA Mono Amps; MSB M204 Mono Amps
Speakers: Vandersteen Model 7 Mk2
Power: Two AudioQuest Niagara 5000’s with AudioQuest Dragon and Hurricane Power Cords
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January 23, 2022, 01:00 PM #97
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Re: Gryphon Essence amp & preamp
Agree with above. While I do not own one, the Essence pre does have the nice feature of being able to adjust the bias according to "need". Also, my amp powers our main family room AV. I can push a button on the underside of my Essence amp which allows it to stay in AB when the kids are watching TV....
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System: Grimm MU1, Mola Mola Tambaqui, Accuphase C3900 pre, TARA Labs 0.8 XLR, Gryphon Essence Stereo Amp, Tara LAbs 0.8 Speaker Cables, Rockport Atria ii's
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January 23, 2022, 02:41 PM #98
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March 31, 2022, 11:36 AM #99
Re: Gryphon Essence amp & preamp
Guys any idea if a pair of Essence Monos would drive better my Thiel CS 3.7s than my Diablo 300 ?
My dealer is willing to lend me the stereo version to try but he doesn't have the Monos.Speaker System : Thiel CS 3.7 - Vitus SIA-025 Mk2 - Aqua Acoustics LinQ - Aqua Acoustics Formula xHD Rev 2 - Fanless Intel NUC + Sbooster Mkll - Farad Super 3 - Paul Pang Quad Switch - Pink Faun LAN cables - Cardas Clear Beyond IC and SC - Furutech DSP 4.1 Power cables - Audioquest Niagara 3000 Power Conditioner - Woodlink Rack - Roon Rock - Qobuz & Tidal.
Headphone Rig : Hifiman HE-1000SE - Kennerton Ondin Mk2 - Chord Hugo 2 - Smartphone - Qobuz & Tidal.
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April 7, 2022, 07:36 PM #100
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Re: Essence
Hello Mike
How are you?
Carlos from Miami...Jay's friend!
Question for you, which phono preamp would you pair a Essence Combo? remember I have the Magico A5. thanks.
tube or SS ( phono)
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Ok, thanks very much for the quick response.
Esoteric DAC type, DSD or PCM?