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June 12, 2021, 04:52 PM #1
Sticker Shock
My nephew told me he was going to build a small room in his garage to enclose his water heater and water softener.
He then mentioned that he was going to use metal studs because the cost of framing lumber was so high.
I asked how high it was that it would make a huge difference? When he showed me that an 8'- 2" x 4" was $9 I had to look on the net to see.
I discovered he was correct but when I looked at a 4' x 8' 1/2" thick sheet of CDX sheathing was $$74.59 at Lowes and Home Depot I just about fainted.
I understand there is a huge about of development going on but clearly not that much more than 2006 & 2007. Much of our lumber in the USA comes from the Pacific north west and Canada with crossing the Canadian border is an issue but 600% increase in the last year seems a bit excessive.
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June 12, 2021, 06:29 PM #2
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In addition to high demand, the US has tariffs on Canadian wood and the lumber plants are only running at 85% due to lack of qualified labor. I’m just repeating what a commodities expert shared this week on a business network.
One of my brothers in law was planning to purchase a home. The builder would not sign a contract until the walls are up. Well, he ended up walking away from the purchase as the house had gone up in price over $20K in just 30 days and the builder had not even started on the home’s foundation. And, this was a track home in the mid $200s in Alabama._______________
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June 12, 2021, 08:46 PM #3
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June 13, 2021, 09:49 AM #4
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Try buying pallets. Depending upon where you are in the country, they either aren’t available at all, on allocation, or available at exorbitant prices. Insane inflation and supply chain disruptions happening in the wood markets (among many others).
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June 13, 2021, 10:46 AM #5
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MPW, come to Florida I am amazed how many businesses in the Tampa area I drive by and they have large piles of pallets with a Free sign on them. It never makes any sense to me as they seem to have value.
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June 13, 2021, 10:47 AM #6
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A neighbor just visited a Lennar retirement community in AZ. It is under construction. My neighbor said the 2x4s were 24" on center for interior walls and the studs were finger-jointed. I do not know if that is common practice anywhere but I have never seen that.
Maybe that is adequate in areas that don't have earthquakes, tornadoes, or hurricanes.
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June 13, 2021, 10:52 AM #7
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There is an interesting YouTube where a guy goes through who is making the money. He point to the 5 major mills in the US going from profits of $9m to $600m. It seems to be a bit of fixing the market.
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June 13, 2021, 11:20 AM #8
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I think that is part of the issue. It's kind of like every gas station has the exact same pricing day to day.
I won't believe it's as simple as one company sees the station down the street raised prices so do they also.Synology 1019D+ - SGC Sonictransporter I9 w Roon/HQ Player- UltraRendu- PBD Stream IF to Playback Designs MPS5 via fiber optic - ARC 40th Anniversary Pre - ARC 610 T's - Martin Logan CLX's - 4 Martin Logan Depth i Subs - Shunyata Hydra, DIY PCOCC interconnects, speaker cables and power cords with Furutech terminations. Blue Jeans CAT 6's. Acoustically treated room with one permanent chair.
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June 13, 2021, 01:51 PM #9
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Damn railroads and their high price for transportation !
Cheers ! …. Dave
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June 13, 2021, 02:11 PM #10
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Are ticket prices up?
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June 13, 2021, 04:30 PM #11
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June 13, 2021, 07:02 PM #12
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We need affordable lumber for the young families building their first home.
Can you buy an affordable 2×4 @ MonoPrice?
My brother redone his deck; he payed three times the price for wood needed as compared to a year ago or so. The house market is also super highly inflated.
If you want to sell your home, now is the time.
If you want to buy a home, now is best to stay home and listening to your platine.
I think oil is next ... food too ... then cars. The long-term damage of the recent worldwide events is only starting. Inflation is in the air, and it smells.
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June 13, 2021, 08:01 PM #13
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June 14, 2021, 08:42 AM #14
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June 14, 2021, 09:31 AM #15
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