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    By the way, it is not far fetched that the virus may have come from space. Perhaps not a UFO but an asteroid. NASA was quick to react and debunk that theory presented by a credible astrobiologist but contrary to what NASA said about the slim chances of a virus and bacteria surviving the harsh radiation of space, there have been other articles proving just the opposite and that bacteria and perhaps viruses actually could survive the trip... There was that one asteroid that fell on China in 2019... Did COVID-19 Come From Space? Scientist Clarifies Virus’ Origins

    China asteroid Oct 19, 2019 Brilliant Midnight Fireball Lights Up Sky Over Northeast China | Space

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    Any of you folks been abducted by Aliens for a joyride, test ride yet?
    I have, but I've been sworn to secrecy.

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    I would not be so interested in the topic if I did not witness a UFO myself. Considering where this was and how long ago, being familiar (now) with most of technology available (then), since it has been declassified in all the decades that have passed since, I can say with certainty that the "vehicle" that I saw was not one of our creation. It materialized above me with all the shiny, polished, almost mirror like finish of some incredible alloy. It hovered perfectly flat in the horizontal plane above me, with its liquid like metal skin, shimmering in the summer sun and slowly rotating while causing some unexplainable tingling sensations on my head and neck. I looked at it for what seemed like 30-40 seconds without taking my eyes off of it. It then slowly morphed back into the background sky but before it completely dissolved, it took off at an incredible rate of speed and disappeared.

    This was slightly after lunch and I was playing in the yard alone. My grandmother came out to call me in for dinner but I just came out to play after lunch... That part I will never understand. It thoroughly confused me.

    Nor will I ever understand the flashbacks much later in life of an "endless room" with no visible boundaries and someone standing over me laying on a metal table feeling nearly frozen from the cold in the room. I don't know where this memory came from but I remember it vividly. Who knows... Abducted? Maybe... I doubt I'll ever know for sure. It could have been a dream about the room that later turned into a perceived memory but the UFO part I do remember vividly and that was definitely a real experience when I was 7 or 8 years old at most. I had no idea what a UFO even was, to me, it was just a fantastic sky vehicle of some sort that I was able to observe in great detail.

    Well, it doesn't matter, all that aside, the statistical odds of us being all alone in this vast universe that is made up of similar ingredients, distributed throughout and nothing really unique (religious faith aside), well, it is silly IMHO opinion to even think we are somehow so special as to have this universe all to ourselves. Hundreds of billions of galaxies, each with hundreds of billions of stars and planets in the numbers that would be simply incomprehensible. Not to mention the gaps of technological evolution that could have taken place between the various forms of intelligent life out there over the Billions of years. The Homo Sapien has been around all but some 200,000 years and already we think we are the Supreme Beings and that no one else can possibly be out there... Ha!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheOctopus View Post
    What I am concerned about is that we are once again ignoring the history lessons. Unfortunately none of the vaccines are 100% are effective as we have witnessed breakthrough cases of infections and deaths in the vaccinated group. That combined with the unknown factor whether the vaccines will guard against all future variants and mutations could lead to us to one very nasty outcome as the viruses mount an offensive with new tactics.... I don't want to dwell on that topic but history once again has lessons to teach us about messing with nature.
    I also have the same concern Serge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheOctopus View Post
    By the way, it is not far fetched that the virus may have come from space. Perhaps not a UFO but an asteroid. NASA was quick to react and debunk that theory presented by a credible astrobiologist but contrary to what NASA said about the slim chances of a virus and bacteria surviving the harsh radiation of space, there have been other articles proving just the opposite and that bacteria and perhaps viruses actually could survive the trip... There was that one asteroid that fell on China in 2019... Did COVID-19 Come From Space? Scientist Clarifies Virus’ Origins

    China asteroid Oct 19, 2019 Brilliant Midnight Fireball Lights Up Sky Over Northeast China | Space
    Mars (the planet) would be the ideal place to send all the nasty virulent viruses. It has no humans to infect and spread around.
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    I have, but I've been sworn to secrecy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheOctopus View Post
    I would not be so interested in the topic if I did not witness a UFO myself. Considering where this was and how long ago, being familiar (now) with most of technology available (then), since it has been declassified in all the decades that have passed since, I can say with certainty that the "vehicle" that I saw was not one of our creation. It materialized above me with all the shiny, polished, almost mirror like finish of some incredible alloy. It hovered perfectly flat in the horizontal plane above me, with its liquid like metal skin, shimmering in the summer sun and slowly rotating while causing some unexplainable tingling sensations on my head and neck. I looked at it for what seemed like 30-40 seconds without taking my eyes off of it. It then slowly morphed back into the background sky but before it completely dissolved, it took off at an incredible rate of speed and disappeared.

    This was slightly after lunch and I was playing in the yard alone. My grandmother came out to call me in for dinner but I just came out to play after lunch... That part I will never understand. It thoroughly confused me.

    Nor will I ever understand the flashbacks much later in life of an "endless room" with no visible boundaries and someone standing over me laying on a metal table feeling nearly frozen from the cold in the room. I don't know where this memory came from but I remember it vividly. Who knows... Abducted? Maybe... I doubt I'll ever know for sure. It could have been a dream about the room that later turned into a perceived memory but the UFO part I do remember vividly and that was definitely a real experience when I was 7 or 8 years old at most. I had no idea what a UFO even was, to me, it was just a fantastic sky vehicle of some sort that I was able to observe in great detail.

    Well, it doesn't matter, all that aside, the statistical odds of us being all alone in this vast universe that is made up of similar ingredients, distributed throughout and nothing really unique (religious faith aside), well, it is silly IMHO opinion to even think we are somehow so special as to have this universe all to ourselves. Hundreds of billions of galaxies, each with hundreds of billions of stars and planets in the numbers that would be simply incomprehensible. Not to mention the gaps of technological evolution that could have taken place between the various forms of intelligent life out there over the Billions of years. The Homo Sapien has been around all but some 200,000 years and already we think we are the Supreme Beings and that no one else can possibly be out there... Ha!
    Serge, I'm a big movie fan, and after reading your above post it reminded me of those two scenes from 'Thor: Ragnarok' ...



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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthStar View Post
    Serge, I'm a big movie fan, and after reading your above post it reminded me of those two scenes from 'Thor: Ragnarok' ...



    Have not seen Thor Ragnarok but it looks like a good sci-fi flick...

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    Space is big. Real big. If something could get here, it is probably of a limited size.
    If something could get here, its probably pretty advanced.
    If it was advanced, why would you want it to give us longer lives and cheap power. That would equal more overpopulation, hugh social strife and larger wars.

    What if that is what they tell us. Aliens of advanced form come and say, your overpopulated with weak, sick and inferior specimens. You need to genocide this race, cull half this one, sterilize these. This group will perform manual labor and forced breeding of specific specimen will maintain the labor pool. This group will lead and manage the resources. You know. A "Hive".

    Are you going to praise them for their wise sense. Follow their advice based upon their advanced science and wisdom. Or ??????

    FWIW, do you think those that control the resources of the world view it any different today. I mean, they do send your children overseas to kill other people and maintain their power and access to resources. Right?????

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheOctopus View Post
    Have not seen Thor Ragnarok but it looks like a good sci-fi flick...
    If you are into UFOs, mysterious drones and superhero movies, it's one of the very best mainly because of Cate Blanchett, who plays Hela to bravura.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kingrex View Post
    Space is big. Real big. If something could get here, it is probably of a limited size.
    If something could get here, its probably pretty advanced.
    If it was advanced, why would you want it to give us longer lives and cheap power. That would equal more overpopulation, hugh social strife and larger wars.

    What if that is what they tell us. Aliens of advanced form come and say, your overpopulated with weak, sick and inferior specimens. You need to genocide this race, cull half this one, sterilize these. This group will perform manual labor and forced breeding of specific specimen will maintain the labor pool. This group will lead and manage the resources. You know. A "Hive".

    Are you going to praise them for their wise sense. Follow their advice based upon their advanced science and wisdom. Or ??????

    FWIW, do you think those that control the resources of the world view it any different today. I mean, they do send your children overseas to kill other people and maintain their power and access to resources. Right?????
    One really needs to consider the Anunnaki creation story as captured in the clay tablets by the ancient Sumerian civilization. I have and it makes more sense than any other explanation, including science which still can't find a definitive bridge of evolution to this day and cannot explain how the genes (telomeres of chromosomes) were spliced in a specific way to create a man from ape without intervention. They know that can't happen in nature without intervention from all the genetic research being done today. Telomere to Telomere fusion theory is nonsense me thinks...

    Who the heck are the Sumerians to tell us where we came from and what we are? Well, they are the civilization that brought us the number system, the base 60 time system, the wheel, first board games, the cuneiform language that served as the first written language and the famous clay tablets that describe exactly who and what we are.

    In those tablets, which science is not inclined to believe, although the other gifts of intelligence I have mentioned above are more than OK to use... In a nutshell, we were a modified genetic creation, (makes perfect sense) to serve as slaves for the grueling work of mining for gold on this planet. Also makes perfect sense, South Africa is full of underground mines that the modern excavations keep bumping into and sealing off so as not to fall into that whole historic preservation/artifacts loop and keep on mining for gold...

    Another words, it all falls into place very elegantly and makes much more sense than the modern theories which never seem to jive or be complete.


    Bottom line is we are not alone, we have been visited in the past, we were not the first civilization as numerous out of place and time artifacts allude to, chances are the story is exactly how the Sumerian civilization told us and the true masters of this planet will be back someday and they will probably be a bit pissed with what we have done with this place.


    Anyone interested in contemplating the Anunnaki creation story for themselves, this not so long video is a good place to start! The Anunnaki Creation Story: The Biggest Secret in Human History - Nibiru is Coming - YouTube

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    Oh yeah, Nibiru, planet 9, or Planet X.... oh the wild tin foil hat theories... What did those ancient Sumerians know about planets anyways? Well they did mention where the Anunnaki came from. Funny that NASA thinks there really should be a Planet 9 on some really funky orbit as that would certainly explain the slightly odd orbital mechanics which are not exactly elegant without a Planet fitting that description... Well what do you know?

    "Caltech researchers have found mathematical evidence suggesting there may be a "Planet X" deep in the solar system. This hypothetical Neptune-sized planet orbits our Sun in a highly elongated orbit far beyond Pluto. The object, which the researchers have nicknamed "Planet Nine," could have a mass about 10 times that of Earth and orbit about 20 times farther from the Sun on average than Neptune. It may take between 10,000 and 20,000 Earth years to make one full orbit around the Sun."


    Straight from the horses mouth... NASA

    How would an ancient civilization know that?

    NASA In Depth | Hypothetical Planet X – NASA Solar System Exploration.

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    I don't know I doubt or not the possibility humans were manipulated DNA. I do doubt the idea alien's were here mining. As I said, space is really vast. And mass does take energy to launch. Any creature smart enough to get here should be technically able to make gold, or a suitable substitute for electrical galvanic mitigation.

    But, it does beg the question. Could humans be the survivors of a crashed space vessel. Or rogue astronauts sick of their planet who shot of in a Mayflower of sorts. Are we not all the product of 2 men and 6 women.

    Wouldn't that be funny. The human race is actually an alian race. And alians are no better than us. Just violent, warring, greedy, self centered humans who came here after they completed screwed their home planet. And here the cycle repeats again. Humand still furiously looking for a way off to screw another virgin planet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kingrex View Post
    I don't know I doubt or not the possibility humans were manipulated DNA. I do doubt the idea alien's were here mining. As I said, space is really vast. And mass does take energy to launch. Any creature smart enough to get here should be technically able to make gold, or a suitable substitute for electrical galvanic mitigation.

    But, it does beg the question. Could humans be the survivors of a crashed space vessel. Or rogue astronauts sick of their planet who shot of in a Mayflower of sorts. Are we not all the product of 2 men and 6 women.

    Wouldn't that be funny. The human race is actually an alian race. And alians are no better than us. Just violent, warring, greedy, self centered humans who came here after they completed screwed their home planet. And here the cycle repeats again. Humand still furiously looking for a way off to screw another virgin planet.
    If Planet 9/X/Nibiru or whatever you want to call it does exist as described by Sumerians and even theorized by scientists and NASA openly now and it takes 20,000 years to orbit back around to be in our vicinity, with whatever cataclysms that may bring, one has to consider the simple fact that we are quite capable ourselves of making the jump to the Moon, Mars, Saturn and other planets where we have already sent probes, rovers and even men, supposedly.... Well, then a civilization even slightly more advanced than ourselves would not require to expand much resources to make the jump when Niburu comes over for its 20,000 year cyclical visit? Makes perfect sense and they may be back then. Gold is an interesting commodity for all kinds of purposes, isn't it....


    So then what of the other Sumerian tale about the mining of the gold by the Alien Gods? Check this out!

    "Ancient mines covered by 30 metres of soil have been reported by at least 2 miners in the ‘30’s in the province of Limpopo and more than 75,000 mines have been reported by geological companies in Mpumalanga. It seems that gold mining has been going on here for a lot longer than most of us ever imagined."

    Say what? Decoding the Hidden Ruins of Southern Africa – Discovering the True Cradle of Humankind - Graham Hancock Official Website.

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    By the way, space travel gets much more efficient if one knows how to "navigate" and exploit "gravity quirks" and thus essentially ride the "Interplanetary Superhighway"


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    Another thing to keep in mind is that we always assume that the UFO has traveled a long way to get here. Millions of light years and has to have a biological being in it. It can be a reconnaissance craft, it can be artificial intelligence, they can be interdimensional beings that materialize by using some unknown to us technology such as worm holes or portals to appear and disappear at will anywhere in the universe... Way too many variables that get around the limiting thinking we humans tend to fall back on when we try to compare everything in the universe based on the physics and knowledge available to us today instead of being open minded.

    In fact in some of the UFO footage that has been captured from the ISS for example, in some clips it is very easy to see that the UFO flying by has materialized not far away before it flew by as if from some portal.

    The scientists that were at the infamous Skinwalker Ranch reported exactly that.... The portal that would appear, open up and had some kind of an interdimensional lifeform literally crawl out of it and take off across the field... we simply do not know and cannot know what is possible and possibilities are endless given enough time and technology to figure things out. We have come a very long way in the short 200 years from horse buggies to putting rovers on Mars and setting foot on the Moon... None of that would have seemed possible even 100 years ago. Imagine what a Billion years of technological innovation can do?

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    Of course one other thought that has always made me feel very uncomfortable yet Elon Musk seems to be at total ease with it and is convinced that it is exactly that.... We are living in a simulation. If that is the case, well, then reality is anything but real and nothing should surprise anyone at any level.

    "We Are Living In A Simulation, Wake Up!" - Elon Musk - YouTube

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kingrex View Post
    I don't know I doubt or not the possibility humans were manipulated DNA. I do doubt the idea alien's were here mining. As I said, space is really vast. And mass does take energy to launch. Any creature smart enough to get here should be technically able to make gold, or a suitable substitute for electrical galvanic mitigation.

    But, it does beg the question. Could humans be the survivors of a crashed space vessel. Or rogue astronauts sick of their planet who shot of in a Mayflower of sorts. Are we not all the product of 2 men and 6 women.

    Wouldn't that be funny. The human race is actually an alian race. And alians are no better than us. Just violent, warring, greedy, self centered humans who came here after they completed screwed their home planet. And here the cycle repeats again. Humans still furiously looking for a way off to screw another virgin planet.
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    Serge, you follow the latest on SpaceX (the real deal, real life in space and back on planet Earth with a splash...Crew Dragon spacecraft)?

    SpaceX Makes First Nighttime Splashdown With Astronauts Since 1968 - The New York Times
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheOctopus View Post
    they did find it but wouldnt tell you

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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthStar View Post
    Serge, you follow the latest on SpaceX (the real deal, real life in space and back on planet Earth with a splash...Crew Dragon spacecraft)?

    SpaceX Makes First Nighttime Splashdown With Astronauts Since 1968 - The New York Times
    I do. Interesting stuff.

    Of course I find stuff like this much more fascinating. UFO Disables USA Missiles? Cpt. Says Yes - YouTube

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    Quote Originally Posted by u-sound View Post
    they did find it but wouldnt tell you
    That I believe; there are things untold to the general public, for national security reasons, and others.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheOctopus View Post
    I do. Interesting stuff.

    Of course I find stuff like this much more fascinating. UFO Disables USA Missiles? Cpt. Says Yes - YouTube
    I was completely sure you were.
    And so for this: The Large Hadron Collider | CERN
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    Interesting how over the decades, various people in positions that would put them " in the know" keep coming forward and making claims Aliens and UFOs are real.

    Recent Israeli ex-Chief of Space Security and Defense. This guy would be in the prime position to know what's going on in their skies... 'Aliens Exist,' According to Ex-Israeli Space Chief - YouTube

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    I didn't see the Israeli security person speak. I admit, I did not watch the whole video.

    A guy screws up the missle and blambes it on aliens. And still keeps to the story.

    And so what if there is a planet so far out we can't find it. Its an ice block. I believe aliens are out there. But I don't see life growing without liquid water. That takes a very specific environment.
    Yes liquid water. Don't all the aliens people have seen breath our air. That would make them basically like us. Evolving in a narrow temperature range.

    And since so many seem to somewhat believe humans did not evolve, and I feel a bit of scepticism anything evoles, then how did the aliens evolve to what they are.

    Ok, God sneezed and spattered life all over the universe. And some buggers were green, some yellow and some white. Now here we all are.

    But the idea humanity is not ready to meet aliens is a farce. Humanity is screaming for parental direction and control. Without it, we will end up a one world communist state. But hey, at that point, 70% of us can be quietly neutralized. Our polluting reaources can be taken away. We can be driven back to an Ox and wagon state. Actually the utopian life we left will be brought back. Yet this time your sons are not taken by the king to be soldiers. They stay and work the farms.

    I think we call that, full circle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kingrex View Post
    I didn't see the Israeli security person speak. I admit, I did not watch the whole video.

    A guy screws up the missle and blambes it on aliens. And still keeps to the story.

    And so what if there is a planet so far out we can't find it. Its an ice block. I believe aliens are out there. But I don't see life growing without liquid water. That takes a very specific environment.
    Yes liquid water. Don't all the aliens people have seen breath our air. That would make them basically like us. Evolving in a narrow temperature range.

    And since so many seem to somewhat believe humans did not evolve, and I feel a bit of scepticism anything evoles, then how did the aliens evolve to what they are.

    Ok, God sneezed and spattered life all over the universe. And some buggers were green, some yellow and some white. Now here we all are.

    But the idea humanity is not ready to meet aliens is a farce. Humanity is screaming for parental direction and control. Without it, we will end up a one world communist state. But hey, at that point, 70% of us can be quietly neutralized. Our polluting reaources can be taken away. We can be driven back to an Ox and wagon state. Actually the utopian life we left will be brought back. Yet this time your sons are not taken by the king to be soldiers. They stay and work the farms.

    I think we call that, full circle.
    I don't think we can ever figure out the hierarchy and it will always be beyond our reach. Much like the computer simulation/game characters would never be able to figure out what is outside their reality and dimension. That they exist in a black box on a hard drive and that they can be observed and manipulated outside their realm with a joystick and a keyboard....

    The more science evolves, the more it starts to get confusing... Technically, based on what we know about physics, our universe should not even exist to begin with. New findings have physicists questioning reality - YouTube

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    The famous Stephen Hawking wrote a paper before his death. It states that we are living in a "holographic universe" What we are is a projection from another dimension. In a nutshell, this being a 3D world which is a 2D holographic projection from another dimension.

    The new theory embraces the strange concept that the universe is like a vast and complex hologram. In other words, 3D reality is an illusion.

    The apparently “solid” world around us – and the dimension of time – is projected from information stored on a flat 2D surface.

    It all began with a hologram: Prof Stephen Hawking's last theory is published - The Irish News

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    If Black Holes, Holographic Universe theories and thought provoking, fascinating presentations from the brilliant minds are your idea of how to spend an hour, I strongly recommend this Leonard Susskind presentation on a "World as a Hologram". Leonard Susskind on The World As Hologram - YouTube

    Leonard Susskind is an American physicist, who is a professor of theoretical physics at Stanford University, and founding director of the Stanford Institute for Theoretical Physics. His research interests include string theory, quantum field theory, quantum statistical mechanics and quantum cosmology.

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    Almost every ancient religion and philosophy, has at its core, the illusion of reality.
    2000 years before Stephen Hawking wrote his final paper before his death, Greek Philosopher Plato's "Allegory of a Cave" is a great metaphor how we believe we live in a reality while living in a projection...
    In Plato's example, prisoners live their entire lives in a cave, only able to see shadows. To them, these shadows are reality.

    No wonder there is so much discussion on the topics of "simulated reality", "holographic universe", "multiverse theory", "mathematical universe", "computational universe" and even "Biocentric Universe" where Life Creates Time, Space, And The Cosmos Itself... I don't see how any of the various theories exclude the possibility of Alien intelligent life. Quite the opposite me thinks.

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    Former Navy pilot says flight crews observed UFOs off Atlantic Coast "every day for at least a couple years"

    Next month, a government report is expected to be made public on sightings of unidentified aerial phenomena, better known as UFOs. Sunday on 60 Minutes, Bill Whitaker reports on the sightings.


    Former Navy Lieutenant Ryan Graves says he and other members of his F/A-18 fighter squadron detected strange, maneuverable and unidentified objects flying in the restricted airspace southeast of Virginia Beach nearly every day for two years beginning in 2015. The sightings were so common, he says, pilots and their crews began to take them for granted. Graves is calling those objects a threat to security in a 60 Minutes interview.

    Former Navy pilot says flight crews observed UFOs off Atlantic Coast "every day for at least a couple years" - CBS News

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    60 Minutes on CBS.

    Navy pilots recall “unsettling” 2004 UAP sighting

    Navy pilots recall ?unsettling? 2004 UAP sighting - YouTube

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    60 Minutes has covered some strange stories before but nothing like this.

    The Pentagon is no longer denying they are "real"....

    Navy pilots describe encounters with UFOs Navy pilots describe encounters with UFOs - YouTube

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    Interaction around the military is nothing new - been happening for quite a bit - e.g. Arctic UFO Photographs, USS Trepang, SSN 674, March 1971 - The Black Vault Case Files
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    You think there is any chance it's a ruse to lull people into believing we can destroy this planet and not worry. We can leave or be saved?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kingrex View Post
    You think there is any chance it's a ruse to lull people into believing we can destroy this planet and not worry. We can leave or be saved?
    leave where and be saved by who ?
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    Ever think that various world military and government agencies have capabilities and technology that they don't share with the general public?

    Ever think this is all coming out now so when certain things happen they can blame it on UFOs? Power Grids going down, Communication Blackouts, Hacking and so on....

    Just about everything that is used against us is shown to us in movies or news articles shortly before they become reality.

    If you think they don't already have AI like in Ex Machina, or sophisticated weapons we have never seen, time to go back under your rock
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowfax View Post
    Ever think that various world military and government agencies have capabilities and technology that they don't share with the general public?

    Ever think this is all coming out now so when certain things happen they can blame it on UFOs? Power Grids going down, Communication Blackouts, Hacking and so on....

    Just about everything that is used against us is shown to us in movies or news articles shortly before they become reality.

    If you think they don't already have AI like in Ex Machina, or sophisticated weapons we have never seen, time to go back under your rock
    I don't think humans have Ex Machina technology. I know people involved (in their circle) and its not there yet.

    And I don't think other countries have technology to do what is asserted on media.


    Have you watched Seaspiracy yet? Our government, industry and social do good corporations murder people to keep us in the dark as to what they are doing. They intentionally use slight of hand to distract the easy to manipulate viewers around the world.

    I am very skeptical of anything I see in the news (nightly entertainment/lies). Most is nothing but fake entertainment to lull the masses into stupidity.

    I very much believe rusing the people of the earth into believing life exists elsewhere is a long play ploy to make us think it will all be OK. Friendly green martians will come and teach us how to live proper. Or give is technology to grow food in balance with nature. Or ways to cleanly recycle our trash.

    Their very well could be Aliens watching us. Sure, why not. There also could be a "Lie" campaign created by "people" in places that want us to believe for some reason they find important.

    My edit is to note a good friend said he knows of one of the people in the 60 minutes special. He says he would only tell the truth. And the sensors on an F18 are not something your going to fool. So something was out there. FWIW, he believes its US advanced equipment. But its just a hunch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CPP View Post
    leave where and be saved by who ?
    Leave the earth. Saved by aliens. If people feel humanity will always go on, there are other planets to inhabit, greed would overtake all sense of social responsibility for the environment and we would mine this place into a dead rock in the solar system. We would kill it in a heartbeat. Heck, we already are. And we have no place to go.

    Maybe if there are aliens out there, they have seen this behavior before and avoid the disaster by staying hidden.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kingrex View Post
    Leave the earth. Saved by aliens. If people feel humanity will always go on, there are other planets to inhabit, greed would overtake all sense of social responsibility for the environment and we would mine this place into a dead rock in the solar system. We would kill it in a heartbeat. Heck, we already are. And we have no place to go.

    Maybe if there are aliens out there, they have seen this behavior before and avoid the disaster by staying hidden.

    I think I'll just worry about cutting the grass and playing golf.
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    The only thing fuzzier than pictures of UFO's and bank robbers is probably every one of my Saturday nights from the 1980's. Seriously, UFO's are seen every day and nobody has good pictures.....hmm.

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