What would be you definitive system?

**iosiP** · January 10, 2015, 02:12 PM

I know this is not an easy question, so let me specify the context:

1. I'm not talking about cost no object, or what you'll buy if Bill Gates would make you his sole inheritor but about a system that you could buy while stretching your budget and/or using your savings.

2. However, I assume this is the last system you will ever buy (think desert island) so no more gear testing and swapping possible. And this is linked to #1 - just think all your needs for food, booze, clothing etc. are covered.

3. Maintenance is provided, so you can go for an all-tube system without having to bother about replacement cans. Same goes for other stuff that is more or less "consumable".

4. Listening space (room) is any surface/volume/shape you want, so no restrictions apply. Therefore, no need to go for mini-monitors (unless you like them) - can opt for big horn loaded speakers as long as you still remain within the budgetary constraints.

Well, I'm waiting (and I will also post my definitive system, of course).

Costin

**puroagave** · January 10, 2015, 03:01 PM

Definitive for me means analog sources (vinyl & R2R) tubes everywhere and horns (why not).

**iosiP** · January 10, 2015, 03:20 PM

Thanks for the answer, Rob, but please do name names (as "analog sources" can mean anything from a cheap Pro-Ject to the extremely expensive Continuum Audio Labs Caliburn).

**puroagave** · January 10, 2015, 04:03 PM

Originally Posted by iosiP

Thanks for the answer, Rob, but please do name names (as "analog sources" can mean anything from a cheap Pro-Ject to the extremely expensive Continuum Audio Labs Caliburn).

choose a team like fantasy football? I kept it vague for a reason, when you get to the tiptop of high-end audio they're mostly all exquisite. i don't want to devolve your thread like another site arguing over the best $100k turntable that few people have actually listened to and have a meaningful opinion on.

**Mike** · January 10, 2015, 04:10 PM

I'm thinking....

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**iosiP** · January 10, 2015, 04:12 PM

Originally Posted by puroagave

choose a team like fantasy football?

Not really, you're still constrained by the #1 requirement, so $100k turntables need not apply... unless, of course, you can afford one. Furthermore, this is no pissing contest and I would like to not see disruptive comments on other people's preferences: it's personal for everyone and (as you say) there is no wrong way, only each one's own way.*

* Reference to Frank Sinatra not incidental.

**Mike** · January 10, 2015, 04:21 PM

If we are constrained by our current rooms, I'm not sure I would change anything. There is some gear I would like to hear, such as the Estelon Extremes and the M Projects and a few others. But with my current room, I can't think of how I could improve my core system (speakers, amps, preamp, turntable, R2R, etc.). Sure, I can (and will) one day add a world class cartridge. I still want a K-01x (I know, I know, spinners are so 1990's....but I still want one!). Otherwise, I can't think of anything I would change.

But for fun, I will come up with an alternative system....give me a little time.

**iosiP** · January 10, 2015, 04:57 PM

Thanks Mike, it's good to see someone whose "definitive system" is almost attained.
Still thinking about mine...

**u-sound** · January 10, 2015, 05:15 PM

nagra cd transport
nagra hd server (upcoming soon)
nagra hd dac
nagra hd amp (upcoming)

new magico m-pojekt

isotek genesis & supertitan,
wired completely with odin.

no more analog

**u-sound** · January 10, 2015, 05:18 PM

about a quarter there by the way

**iosiP** · January 10, 2015, 05:43 PM

WOW, u-sound, this is a system! Sure love it when someone succeeds in getting all the eggs in one basket (or finding one brand that can cover all bases). Nagra is so... well, technically sound that I cannot argue with its lovers. Unfortunately it's way over my budget but I can understand why one can go "full Nagra" and never look back!

P.S. May I ask you for some photos, I promise to get some napkins so I won't droll on the keyboard.

**Alpinist** · January 10, 2015, 08:04 PM

Originally Posted by Mike

If we are constrained by our current rooms, I'm not sure I would change anything. There is some gear I would like to hear, such as the Estelon Extremes and the M Projects and a few others. But with my current room, I can't think of how I could improve my core system (speakers, amps, preamp, turntable, R2R, etc.). Sure, I can (and will) one day add a world class cartridge. I still want a K-01x (I know, I know, spinners are so 1990's....but I still want one!). Otherwise, I can't think of anything I would change.

But for fun, I will come up with an alternative system....give me a little time.

Mike,

I think you already have your definitive system! Maybe throw in an XS phonostage for good measure.

Ken

**Alpinist** · January 10, 2015, 08:09 PM

Ok, let's see, Esoteric K-01X and G-01 Clock, Soulution 520 Preamp, Soulution 501 mono amps, Raidho D3 speakers and Ansuz Diamond Cable Loom.

Ken

**Mike** · January 10, 2015, 08:28 PM

Originally Posted by Alpinist

Mike,

I think you already have your definitive system! Maybe throw in an XS phonostage for good measure.

Ken

You got it Ken!

**Mike** · January 10, 2015, 08:33 PM

OK, alternate system:

Estelon Extreme
Vitus Class A Monoblocks
Vitus Preamp
Vitus Phonostage (which coincidently is $60,000 and probably not as good as the $45,000 Pass XS phono everyone is bitching about).
Kronos Pro TT
ZYX Universe Cart
Esoteric K-01x
Nagra R2R
All Crystal Cabling

**iosiP** · January 10, 2015, 08:51 PM

Mike, may I suppose you can foot the bill for such a system? No intention to mix into your private life but please be aware of rule #1: only systems you could afford!

**Mike** · January 10, 2015, 09:12 PM

Originally Posted by iosiP

Mike, may I suppose you can foot the bill for such a system? No intention to mix into your private life but please be aware of rule #1: only systems you could afford!

Yes...but you did say "use savings" - so I figured, retirement savings is savings, right?

**mep** · January 10, 2015, 09:29 PM

I think I already have mine.

**CDLehner** · January 11, 2015, 11:25 AM

Originally Posted by puroagave

choose a team like fantasy football? I kept it vague for a reason, when you get to the tiptop of high-end audio they're mostly all exquisite. i don't want to devolve your thread like another site arguing over the best $100k turntable that few people have actually listened to and have a meaningful opinion on.

I have to say, I agree wholeheartedly with this. It just feels like an exercise in futility, to speculate over gear I think I'd like...but have never actually heard. But I don't want to be a kill-joy either; so how about this...

If I were building my retirement (or at least retiring from being an audiophile...and futzing so damn much) system; based on what is available now:

Aurender N100
Resonessence Labs INVICTA Mirus
ARC VSi-75
Harbeth 40.1s

**iosiP** · January 11, 2015, 12:15 PM

Originally Posted by CDLehner

I have to say, I agree wholeheartedly with this. It just feels like an exercise in futility, to speculate over gear I think I'd like...but have never actually heard. But I don't want to be a kill-joy either; so how about this...

Why speculate about gear you never actually heard? Can't you just put together a system with gear you heard but could not (yet) afford to own or is not fit for your current listening space?
I listen to various stuff on a regular basis at friends' and dealers' locations. Sometimes I even take some of it home for a test drive in my system. Some of it sounds (much) better than the stuff I own but I just can't afford it (at least not unless I use my retirement funds) or is not fit for my smallish room (27 sq.m).

So by all means, what I would like to read is about gear you are familiar with, not about wet dreams including whole stacks of darTZeel monoblocks

**PeterA** · January 11, 2015, 12:59 PM

I think I would keep my current system, with a few minor upgrades. If really pressed, I would replace my Mini 2 with the Magico Q3 and the Pass .5 amps with the .8 amps, and perhaps higher level Transparent cables. Then I would be done. I don't switch gear very often and when I do, it is slow and deliberate. At this point, I don't ever see myself owning gear other than Magico, Pass and SME.

**FlexibleAudio** · January 11, 2015, 01:26 PM

I presume #4 allows me all the air conditioning I can eat at the desert bar, right??

In that case:

Vac Statement 450 iQ monos
Vac Statement Line
Vac Statement Phono
Brinkmann Balance
Lyra Atlas
My D3's
My Torus
Furutech Powerflux PC's each with a Flux-50
Ansuz Diamond IC's and SC's

No 0001110001111's allowed.

I am going to need some help from you all to make it through my retirement years.

**still-one** · January 11, 2015, 02:54 PM

Easy for me. Cost no object it would be the full MBL X'treme set-up powered by dual 9011's and dual 9008's and their 6010D pre. I am not 100% sure I would go with their digital front end.

Since I am unwilling to take the hit moving from what I have to that system, I would have to say I am close to my definitive system as is.
-Updating my SC to Opus Gen 5
-Waiting to see if MQA takes off and update my 808 to v6.
-Waiting for Dan's phono stage
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**iosiP** · January 11, 2015, 03:10 PM

Oops! Jim, I was about to write that this is not about "cost no object" but then I read the listing of your current system and I stand corrected

P.S. Do you have $100k making a bulge in you Savile Row suit poket? I'm willing to help you get rid of it...

**Glareskin** · January 11, 2015, 03:25 PM

Originally Posted by still-one

Easy for me. Cost no object it would be the full MBL X'treme set-up powered by dual 9011's and dual 9008's and their 6010D pre.
-

The Dual 6010 is a fine retro amp Jim! I can see that will be a big step up coming from the D'Ag...

**still-one** · January 11, 2015, 03:34 PM

Originally Posted by Glareskin

The Dual 6010 is a fine retro amp Jim! I can see that will be a big step up coming from the D'Ag...

I will have to look into that for my next upgrade.

**still-one** · January 11, 2015, 03:37 PM

Originally Posted by iosiP

Oops! Jim, I was about to write that this is not about "cost no object" but then I read the listing of your current system and I stand corrected

P.S. Do you have $100k making a bulge in you Savile Row suit poket? I'm willing to help you get rid of it...

No. I will keep that money in my $18 WalMart khaki's. Saving it for my next 5 trips to Europe.

**Glareskin** · January 11, 2015, 03:44 PM

First of all: I would survive the island with what I have. I am very happy with the sound. It is rare to hear similar quality in the same budget. If I would be banned to the island now and I could spend some of my savings (why not if this is the final move to the island; aren't we saving for better audio gear anyhow?) I might update the following components:

Preamp to the Octave HP 700 tube pre-amp including the phono stage. Haven't auditioned yet but from the stories the ultimate warmth, precision, sou stage and clarity. The last curtain removed...

Streamer to the Linn Klimax DS/1 (I don't have it now as it missed a tad of warmth compared to the Accurate DS/1 which will probably compensate with the tube pre)

Speakers: I would quickly fly to Dallas to audition the Salon's at Mark. Or maybe the Stella Utopia although that is a stretch in the budget... Or maybe the Gauder Berlina RC9. Fact is: the high should be as good or better as the 802's which is kind of difficult to my ears, and for the rest I should improve in reality like listening. Again, I can do all of that that pretty much right now!

With the last two speakers I would update the AMP's to the Audionet MAX.

As I have plenty of time to play my 3500 plus records on the island I would update the turntable and probably go for the Linn LP12 with Keel, Radikal and Eko and everything they have to tweak the thing to the max.

And I would take some power cleaning gear to make sure that the shitty island power will be stable and clean as can be when it hits my gear!

**iosiP** · January 11, 2015, 04:48 PM

Originally Posted by still-one

No. I will keep that money in my $18 WalMart khaki's. Saving it for my next 5 trips to Europe.

Come visit, please! I dunno is the sound at Costin's will be satisfactory but I bet the stuffed cabbage leaves, trout fried in salt crust (with fir tree leaves) and the associated wine would compensate

**Audioseduction** · January 11, 2015, 07:32 PM

I would have to say I'm there with my current system.

**Zero** · January 12, 2015, 01:57 AM

Whatever some of you all do for a living, I want in on it.

**Steve** · January 12, 2015, 02:31 AM

Whatever it would be, I would definitely keep my current system.

**Steve** · January 12, 2015, 02:34 AM

Originally Posted by iosiP

Not really, you're still constrained by the #1 requirement, so $100k turntables need not apply... unless, of course, you can afford one. Furthermore, this is no pissing contest and I would like to not see disruptive comments on other people's preferences: it's personal for everyone and (as you say) there is no wrong way, only each one's own way.*

* Reference to Frank Sinatra not incidental.

Hmmm....Clearaudio Statement V2. I'll have to think about it...

**Bodhi** · February 14, 2015, 03:55 PM

My definitive system (aka: retirement system) is many years away as the price of entry is too rich at this point, but would include;

- Vitus SCD-025 (upgraded with latest modules when available)
-

Server transport
- Latest Oppo bluray player
- Gigawatt conditioner
- Vitus SM-011 mono's
- Vitus SL-102 pre
- Jorma Prime/Statement cables
- Magico M Project speakers

Bodhi

**bmichels** · February 21, 2015, 09:33 AM

Originally Posted by CDLehner

I have to say, I agree wholeheartedly with this. It just feels like an exercise in futility, to speculate over gear I think I'd like...but have never actually heard. But I don't want to be a kill-joy either; so how about this...

If I were building my retirement (or at least retiring from being an audiophile...and futzing so damn much) system; based on what is available now:

Aurender N100
Resonessence Labs INVICTA Mirus
ARC VSi-75
Harbeth 40.1s

Have you heard the iNVICTA ?

I am asking this because as you know, I am in the final stage of choosing a DAC to replace my HUGO to feed my Eddie Curent 445 tube headphone AMP.
I have TH900, ED5 and soon LCD-X (which is amazing with my 445)

The EC445 do not really have a Tube signature, but rather something between tube & SS. But it is VERY precise and resolving. So,I need to find a DAC that will bring some warm & silk to it WITHOUT loosing the precision/resolution of the EC445.

For this reason I was looking at several R2R dacs like the TotalDac D1 or Yggy (HUGO is very precise but do not bring any "life & warm" IMO)

So I was about to buy ARIES or AURENDER + TotalDAC D1 when I remembered this Resonessence invicta & saw the AK500 !

Indeed.... I am tempted by a "transportable" solution (from rooms to rooms & to the WK house) like the Invicta or ...the AK500n, but I do not want this at the price of inferior SQ: I will use it stand alone on the go, or feeded by a streamer (Auralic/Aurender) and driving my tube amp at home.

So, my questions :

- Does the Invicta offer a "warm but resolving" type of sound signature to match my EC445 ? ESS is not always known for this and my HUGO is too dry !

- Does the increased SQ on the Mirus worth loosing the headphone out ? (No rumors of a "super invicta" with double ESS chip & Headphone out ?

- IS it really a BIG setp-up from the HUGO.

- IS is it a...step down from a TotalDAC D1 or Yggy or MSB Analog DAC ?

may be you can help... :-)

**CDLehner** · February 21, 2015, 12:02 PM

Originally Posted by bmichels

Have you heard the iNVICTA ?

I am asking this because as you know, I am in the final stage of choosing a DAC to replace my HUGO to feed my Eddie Curent 445 tube headphone AMP.
I have TH900, ED5 and soon LCD-X (which is amazing with my 445)

The EC445 do not really have a Tube signature, but rather something between tube & SS. But it is VERY precise and resolving. So,I need to find a DAC that will bring some warm & silk to it WITHOUT loosing the precision/resolution of the EC445.

For this reason I was looking at several R2R dacs like the TotalDac D1 or Yggy (HUGO is very precise but do not bring any "life & warm" IMO)

So I was about to buy ARIES or AURENDER + TotalDAC D1 when I remembered this Resonessence invicta & saw the AK500 !

Indeed.... I am tempted by a "transportable" solution (from rooms to rooms & to the WK house) like the Invicta or ...the AK500n, but I do not want this at the price of inferior SQ: I will use it stand alone on the go, or feeded by a streamer (Auralic/Aurender) and driving my tube amp at home.

So, my questions :

- Does the Invicta offer a "warm but resolving" type of sound signature to match my EC445 ? ESS is not always known for this and my HUGO is too dry !

- Does the increased SQ on the Mirus worth loosing the headphone out ? (No rumors of a "super invicta" with double ESS chip & Headphone out ?

- IS it really a BIG setp-up from the HUGO.

- IS is it a...step down from a TotalDAC D1 or Yggy or MSB Analog DAC ?

may be you can help... :-)

No, I haven't; but I think you're spot-on. I happen to like the detailed yet not etched sound, of a good 9018 DAC; but I'd doubt it's "warm but resolving" as you're hoping for.

Luxman DA-06?

**bmichels** · February 21, 2015, 12:55 PM

Originally Posted by CDLehner

No, I haven't; but I think you're spot-on. I happen to like the detailed yet not etched sound, of a good 9018 DAC; but I'd doubt it's "warm but resolving" as you're hoping for.

Luxman DA-06?

I do not believe that the Luxman will be warmer :-(

I am now more looking toward R2R DACS like TotalDAC or Schit Yggdrasil or the new AMR DP777 se edition (tube & 2 dacs chips: 16 bits & High-res).

And I have to say that I am intrigued by the new AK500n Server (all in one). First report une the work "analog sound" (OK OK they all say that ! I know! :-)

**RichardAusten** · February 22, 2015, 02:41 AM

Back in 2002 I heard an all Audio Note system that basically destroyed everything I heard the previous 12 years. So I bought some entry pieces. Then I became a reviewer - heard pretty much everything since that time. And still the AN system has held up though at least I have heard some stiffer competition (although not as much as I had expected). So the plan is still leaning to an all Audio Note UK set-up of level 3 and 4 where I feel the sweet spot lies. I should note that this is for small medium sized rooms only (which is what I live in and will live in for the foreseeable future.

In a large room the above is dropped (at least the speakers) and I would probably be leaning to large horn loudspeakers of Western ELectric/Silbatone/Line Magnetic type of stuff. The latter likely being the only relatively affordable option and by affordable still running around $20k. The speakers have to be able to utilize Single Ended tube amplifiers or from my experience the result will not remotely interest me though I have likes such systems at Audio Shows and get why people might like them - I know that over the long run the would bug me.

For specifics - I am targeting:
M6 preamp into Line Magnetic 219 dual mono integrated as power amp
DAC 3.1X DAC (But they are coming out with a totally new CD/DAC technology that they claim is better for less money so this is in holding pattern)
CD/Two/II transport
AN E/Lexus upgrade to AN E/Spx HE Alnico
AN silver cables of some variety or other
Turntable is kind of up in the air.

**Julot** · February 22, 2015, 03:23 AM

My current system is my "definitive" system in the sense of the OP, has been for over twenty years (though it has improved or evolved here and there), and the clients I sold it to, and their regular hifi dealers also concurr: for most of them, they don't go back to a store or hifi magazine for decades. The jury is still out on computer audio vs my CD-Player.

**bmichels** · July 18, 2015, 02:07 PM

Originally Posted by u-sound

nagra cd transport
nagra hd server (upcoming soon)
nagra hd dac
nagra hd amp (upcoming)

new magico m-pojekt

isotek genesis & supertitan,
wired completely with odin.

no more analog

" nagra hd server " !? very very interesting but... where do you get this info about this (soon) product ? Any availability date/Specs ? is it just a rumor ?

**JackD201** · July 18, 2015, 10:18 PM

This is a tough one simply because I like so many different kinds of presentations. I'm almost done with my large format system. I'm just waiting for my VR-11s. I have three sets of electronics from high power SET Parallel (KR), Hybrid (Lamm) and Solid State (CH Precision) that all do things uniquely and enjoyably across genres. I'm locked in as far as my vinyl front end goes (AF1-Graham-Kuzma 4-point- lots of carts

) and just yesterday locked in my Phonostage as well (EMT 66 with 3 pairs of matched and balanced Tele 803s').

Yet burning away in my audio fantasies is a bang up vintage rig. My wife and I have dreamed of building a house on a cliff or ridge where the view will never be obscured, ever. We envision a mid century modern style inspired by the likes of Wright and Neutra. In that house I would love to have a system that looked period correct. Not to mention that I really enjoy the "big tone" soundscapes of yesteryear. Since I'm not likely to go as far in the size department I'm thinking JBLs and Marantz 8s and 9s, maybe Eicos or Quads. A Shindo Garrard maybe? Maybe a TD124. I want a system leaning the opposite way from my daily driver.

It's like the fantasy of having a Gullwing and an SLS or a DB5 and a DBS in the same garage or something like that except I can actually drink AND drive

**socfan12** · July 19, 2015, 07:08 AM

Jack, how is CH treating you? Did you get your M1s yet?

**JackD201** · July 19, 2015, 09:45 AM

Yes

Currently running D1/C1/L1 with X1s and M1s in Bi-Amp mode. I'm currently all Swiss. I'm using an EMT JPA-66 for phono.

**puroagave** · July 19, 2015, 11:26 AM

Originally Posted by JackD201

Yes

Currently running D1/C1/L1 with X1s and M1s in Bi-Amp mode. I'm currently all Swiss. I'm using an EMT JPA-66 for phono.

Hi Jack, the EMT is an intriguing piece. how did you settle on it and can it handle line level inputs and serve as a full-function preamp?

btw, I'm also a Neutra fan. there are many kaufmann built, Neutra designed homes in LA and the desert. When i spot one i always slow down to admire the architecture.

**socfan12** · July 19, 2015, 11:28 AM

Originally Posted by JackD201

Yes

Currently running D1/C1/L1 with X1s and M1s in Bi-Amp mode. I'm currently all Swiss. I'm using an EMT JPA-66 for phono.

Niiiice!

**a.wayne** · July 19, 2015, 12:29 PM

Originally Posted by JackD201

This is a tough one simply because I like so many different kinds of presentations. I'm almost done with my large format system. I'm just waiting for my VR-11s. I have three sets of electronics from high power SET Parallel (KR), Hybrid (Lamm) and Solid State (CH Precision) that all do things uniquely and enjoyably across genres. I'm locked in as far as my vinyl front end goes (AF1-Graham-Kuzma 4-point- lots of carts

) and just yesterday locked in my Phonostage as well (EMT 66 with 3 pairs of matched and balanced Tele 803s').

Yet burning away in my audio fantasies is a bang up vintage rig. My wife and I have dreamed of building a house on a cliff or ridge where the view will never be obscured, ever. We envision a mid century modern style inspired by the likes of Wright and Neutra. In that house I would love to have a system that looked period correct. Not to mention that I really enjoy the "big tone" soundscapes of yesteryear. Since I'm not likely to go as far in the size department I'm thinking JBLs and Marantz 8s and 9s, maybe Eicos or Quads. A Shindo Garrard maybe? Maybe a TD124. I want a system leaning the opposite way from my daily driver.

It's like the fantasy of having a Gullwing and an SLS or a DB5 and a DBS in the same garage or something like that except I can actually drink AND drive

Same wave length Jack, putting together a nice vintage setup is actually pretty enjoyable , KLH stats and vintage Mac toobs is where I'm going ..

regards

**Mike Lavigne** · July 19, 2015, 12:52 PM

I saw this thread yesterday and needed to ponder the question. if I was starting over would I want to end up differently than I have? is there an audio gear itch I'd need to scratch that I haven't?

I guess I have what would be my definitive system now. so EA MM7 speakers's, darTZeel 458 amps and the new dart 18NS pre, Playback Designs MPS-5 w/server, NVS tt, Durand Telos Sapphire and standard Telos, Ortofon MC Anna cart and Miyajima Labs Premium Be mono, Herzan active isolation, 2 Studer A-820's and King Cello tape repro. the candidates for upgrade still are the digital gear and mono cartridge, but not certainly. I'm happy with those but 'still thinking about it'.

otherwise game over for my particular sensibilities. YMMV and all that stuff.

the room development is, of course, the largest single thing where I'm at the definitive point. recent fine tuning the room and system have been gratifying and came with essentially zero cost relatively.

**JackD201** · July 19, 2015, 05:36 PM

Originally Posted by puroagave

Hi Jack, the EMT is an intriguing piece. how did you settle on it and can it handle line level inputs and serve as a full-function preamp?

btw, I'm also a Neutra fan. there are many kaufmann built, Neutra designed homes in LA and the desert. When i spot one i always slow down to admire the architecture.

Hi Rob

Yes it is actually a full function preamp and as such I run it through the L1 in bypass. The digital CHs' employ normal inputs. My brother had two of them but when he went from 8 arms to 4 he no longer needed the second unit. It is the best case of hand me down ever

I've been drooling over it for a long time. The price and very long lead time to acquire a new unit kept me from making the leap for myself. It was serendipity. Awesome! The 66 is a transcription device so it has all the functionality/flexibility including non-stepped loading adjustment and turn over frequency. More importantly, gain per input on top of output stage gain. A gain stager's dream. I'm not OC over EQ but it is nice to know it's there. It also uses 12ax7s which is my favorite peanut tube. The unit came to me with 3 pairs of matched and balanced Tele 803s. That alone got me in 7th heaven. Sonically it is very quiet and pure. As expected from the functionality its tonal characteristics are very variable. Perfect for a guy like me that starts setting up ruler flat but adjusts contours for personal satisfaction later.

Hey A

There's a strong vintage contingent over here so there a lot of guys that can help me in my future vintage adventures. Yes it is a really cool thing and much cheaper than doing vintage cars!

**JackD201** · July 19, 2015, 05:50 PM

Originally Posted by puroagave

Hi Jack, the EMT is an intriguing piece. how did you settle on it and can it handle line level inputs and serve as a full-function preamp?

btw, I'm also a Neutra fan. there are many kaufmann built, Neutra designed homes in LA and the desert. When i spot one i always slow down to admire the architecture.

Hi Rob

Yes it is actually a full function preamp and as such I run it through the L1 in bypass. The digital CHs' employ normal inputs. My brother had two of them but when he went from 8 arms to 4 he no longer needed the second unit. It is the best case of hand me down ever

I've been drooling over it for a long time. The price and very long lead time to acquire a new unit kept me from making the leap for myself. It was serendipity. Awesome! The 66 is a transcription device so it has all the functionality/flexibility including non-stepped loading adjustment and turn over frequency. I'm not OC over EQ but it is nice to know it's there. It also uses 12ax7s which is my favorite peanut tube. The unit came to me with 3 pairs of matched and balanced Tele 803s. That alone got me in 7th heaven. Sonically it is very quiet and pure. As expected from the functionality its tonal characteristics are very variable. Perfect for a guy like me that starts setting up ruler flat but adjusts contours for personal satisfaction later.

Hey A

There's a strong vintage contingent over here so there a lot of guys that can help me in my future vintage adventures. Yes it is a really cool thing and much cheaper than doing vintage cars!

Come to think of it MC275s should be on my short list.

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