The WAPO article and the fuss it has caused

One would think that by this time both the scientific (and some subjective) justifications for digital audio and the subjective (and some scientific) justifications for LPs would be well known to those on either (or neither) side of this discussion. Neither one is going away anytime soon, and the proponents of each aren't likely to be changing their opinion anytime soon either.

I guess any article like this is sure to generate plenty of views and comments though.
 
One would think that by this time both the scientific (and some subjective) justifications for digital audio and the subjective (and some scientific) justifications for LPs would be well known to those on either (or neither) side of this discussion. Neither one is going away anytime soon, and the proponents of each aren't likely to be changing their opinion anytime soon either.

I guess any article like this is sure to generate plenty of views and comments though.

I didn't really see this video conversation being about digital versus analog (or the Mofi "scandal"). This video (which I somehow made it through except for getting sleepy sometime in the last half hour) was mostly about Tom Port from Better Records. And it's equally entertaining and annoying lol.
 
Mr. Edgers spent a year researching and yet he "missed the mark" badly. However, maybe his intent was to create conflict; something that the press likes to do these days in order to get more coverage.
 
I don't do vinyl so I have no vested interest in this issue. I do however see three primary points in the issue the article references regarding the MoFi situation (why even mention it I the article?):

1) It appears from what I have seen buyers were misled about the signal chain. If that is the case that was wrong to do;
2) The people who when they thought it was all analog loved the SQ and now that they know there may be a digital aspect suddenly have an issue with the sound have egg on their face;
3) I agree with posters above how this is an opportunity for the ego-driven world of "audio experts" to hear themselves talk/write which I find entertaining . LOL
 
This really had nothing to do with the MOFI situation. The article should have focused on Chad and his accomplishments plus some of the other smaller labels IMO.


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This really had nothing to do with the MOFI situation. The article should have focused on Chad and his accomplishments plus some of the other smaller labels IMO.


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Thanks Mike - I should have clarified specifically on the MoFi situation they referenced in the artcie. Otherwise reading the article and watching the video I just saw a bunch of people getting all excited over who claims to be the best and disparaging the people they don't agree with.

That's just my take as a non-vinyl guy looking in on it.
 

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The video discussed the September 29 article written by Geoff Edgers and the odd choice (according to Michael45, Michael F., and Chad K) of giving Tom Port so much attention without giving readers sufficient frame of reference with regard to his "angle" in the business

https://www.washingtonpost.com/arts-entertainment/interactive/2022/perfect-sound-quality-vinyl-records/?itid=lk_inline_manual_2

Yes - thanks. I clarified my post that I was referencing one part of the article. I should have been more clear initially.
 
Yes - thanks. I clarified my post that I was referencing one part of the article. I should have been more clear initially.


I kind of agree with you that the YouTube discussion is too heated with talk of Port but I think that stems from Edgers resistance to consider what the other knowledgable guests are saying.

I actually enjoyed reading the article since it shared a number of different viewpoints.
 
Wow - I made it as far as the point when the guy says that they have the technical difficulties cleared up - the exact moment when I couldn't take any more of the echos, reverb, interference or whatever all that noise is. LOL
 
Wow - I made it as far as the point when the guy says that they have the technical difficulties cleared up - the exact moment when I couldn't take any more of the echos, reverb, interference or whatever all that noise is. LOL

Can you explain what you are talking about?
 
They are all getting their 15 minutes of fame over this issue.

Too bad that was an hour ago...

Times up!!!

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I read just the WaPo article so far, not sure why there'd be any controversy. The writer was just relaying his experiences from the various visits and others opinions.

I'm not sure if he was listening to others or his ears with his hi fi moves though, LOL
 
They are all getting their 15 minutes of fame over this issue.

Too bad that was an hour ago...

Times up!!!

I totally agree!

I also felt that there was display of bruised ego in the video, like 'how do you dare make a nobody the center of the story when I /we should be the main character?'.
 
I also felt that there was display of bruised ego in the video, like 'how do you dare make a nobody the center of the story when I /we should be the main character?'.

I think that is a REALLY good point. It really does often seem to be about their ego's. It's like in their eyes it's them vs us mere mortals.
 
Who is Tom Port and who made him the supreme authority on vinyl? Maybe I should ask who cares? Why does this vinyl vs digital keep coming up? Stay Calm and Listen to Music.
 
To understand even part of the debate you have to go back to early-mid '80s when it was Bob Bantz of Elusive Disc, Chad with Acoustic Sounds and Tom Port with Better Records. They invented the niche vinyl space selling OOP Audiophile vinyl. In short order it was clear Chad and Bob dominated the market, Tom Port branched off and got the DCC liquidation gig that lasted several years. TP spent the better part of a decade extolling the virtues of "remastered" DCC recordings and why they were superior to the originals.

What happened next is based on informed speculation, its when the DCC biz dried up TP started culling OOP used records that cost him next to nothing. They cherry picked the 'best' pressings of certain titles (aka Hot Stampers) already known for decent to excellent SQ, reselling them at enormous mark-ups. In order for this model to succeed you have to trash the work done by the reissue biz and people like Chad, Kevin Gray, Doug Sax, e al and reviewers like Fremer. All these years later, its not totally clear who threw first stone but the consensus is all roads lead back to TP and Better Records. Yes, there are bruised egos and for good reason.
 
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