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November 18, 2018, 01:54 PM #1
The vagaries of buying/selling used gear
Most of us have probably bought/sold used hifi gear in our day, these are some of the common questions. Feel free to add to the list...
Question: why are you selling this? (amp, speaker, DAC, turntable, etc)
Answer: I moved to a smaller place otherwise id never sell it.
The truth: I can't get rid of this POS fast enough its horrible and hard to believe it received positive reviews.
Q: What's the rest of the system like that you have this connected to?
A: Oh, I have Wilson speakers, Pass amps, etc...
TT: '70s vintage mid-fi crap...truth is I can't afford this stuff nor do I know what a hi-end system should sound like.
Q: How many hours does the cartridge have on it?
A: about 250
TT: How the hell would I know I'm probably the 3rd owner but there's still a stylus on it!
Q: How much life (or time) is left on the output tubes?
A: (see phono cartridge scenario above)
Q: You say its almost 8/10 condition, can you explain what the corrosion is from based on your description?
A: It was my father's he stored it in a basement, but hardly ever used it. the spots aren't really noticeable.
TT: I bought this at an estate sale, it probably spent most of its life as a jack stand under a '65 impala.
Q: Has the unit ever been worked on or modified?
A: Oh no, it's completely stock.
TT: I tried to 'improve it' with better caps, connectors and internal wiring when I realized I made a few mistakes, shorted out the amp and it had to go back to the manufacturer to be restored.
Q: Are you the original owner?
A: No I'm the second owner.
TT: pff...I couldn't tell you. the shipping box has more than 4 address labels partially peeled off of it. I'm probably the 5th or 6th owner for all I know.
Q: I'm interested in your XYZ speakers but heard they have spotty support in the US, is that true?
A: They have a distributor/Rep in the US but I never had a problem with the speakers, they sound great!
TT: I just found out the manufacturer went out of business, I better sell these now or they'll be worthless boat anchors in a few months.
Q: do the amp's transformers hum or make any noise?
A: I'm not sure what you're asking me, it reproduces music I never noticed any hum.
TT: This amp has hummed like a mother' since day one, if the buyer complains I'll blame his house wiring.
Q: you say its close to mint or 9/10 from a non smoker and kid-free home?
A: Yup
TT: do pets count as kids? my cats sleep on them all day long, I live next to the turnpike and leave my windows open. regular dusting? that's for anal people. i'll blow the soot out with a can of air they'll never know the difference.
Q: Are you interested in any trades? I have a Sansui receiver, Hafler amp (needs work) and a collectible pair of Advent speakers towards your amp.
A: Sorry, I'm not considering trades at the moment.
TT: Are you f'n kidding me?! I'm trying to sell a $10,000 Audio Research amp, what makes you think i'd be interested in your dreck?
Q: How will they be packed if you don't have the factory boxes?
A: I'm an expert at shipping, it will be double boxed for maximum protection.
TT: I'll drive around the back of the supermarket after work and grab a few discarded produce boxes. Whats the difference, cardboard is cardboard.
Q: I 'm very interested in your XYZ cables, how do they compare sound-wise with ABC cables?
A: Oh, the XYZ's are way better, you wont be disappointed.
TT: What sort of asinine question is that? He doesn't even know what my tastes are or the sound of my system. This guy needs to get a life.
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November 18, 2018, 01:59 PM #2
Re: The vagaries of buying/selling used gear
Hahahaha.
Fleetwood Deville by Oswald Mills Audio, Vienna Acoustics Haydn Jubilee, Wharfedale Linton w/ stands, Klipsch RB-75, Klipsch RP-160M.
Job INTegrated. Luxman L-595aSE
NAD C 658 streamer.
First Watt SIT-3, Job 250 Monos, NuForce STA200, AkitikA GT-102 amp, ASL Wave monos, Dennis Had 45 monos. Absolute Audio Labs PCF 25 amp (improved First Watt F7 super clone)
Topping D90, RME Audio ADI-2 DAC FS, ModWright Ultimate Sony XA-5400ES.
Burmester 948, McIntosh MCLK12, Kimber Kable, Siltech, Cardas, Avanti Audio cables.
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November 18, 2018, 02:21 PM #3
Re: The vagaries of buying/selling used gear
The post of the year!
I’m not sure if many of you know, but I started www.playitagainaudio.com a year ago to deal with:
1. All the used gear I take on trade.
2. Clients who don’t want to sell stuff on their own and therefore we provide them with a concierge service (for a small fee).
I hired an employee who handles all the ad posting, photography, testing, shipping, transaction, etc.
I have my own stories, but the stories he’s told me this year are legendary.
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"We can hear everything we measure, but we can't measure everything we hear. Let your ears be your guide."
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January 5, 2020, 01:29 PM #4
Re: The vagaries of buying/selling used gear
I stumbled onto this disclaimer by a seller on Audiomart I thought was too funny...
"This piece is drug-and disease-free. No pets, no smoking, no children anywhere near this amp. Occasionally a non-smoking child might have been in the same room, but never with a pet. Even visiting pets were never allowed to smoke, and definitely not upstairs, maybe in the basement with the Sonos."
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January 5, 2020, 01:48 PM #5
Re: The vagaries of buying/selling used gear
Great post, it sounds like it came from AudioKarma
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Brian
Main System - Rotel RCD-1572 / Rega P3 > Luxman 505UX Mark II > Fyne Audio F502SPs > Synergistic Cables
Secondary - OPPO 93 > VAC CLA 1 MKII Pre > Odyssey Stratos > Dynaudio Audience 82s > Tara Labs Cables
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January 5, 2020, 01:55 PM #6
Re: The vagaries of buying/selling used gear
Why are you selling it?
I bought it for my in laws and they both died.
TT- I bought a whole bunch of junk on CL and I am flipping it for a huge profit-----------------
Brian
Main System - Rotel RCD-1572 / Rega P3 > Luxman 505UX Mark II > Fyne Audio F502SPs > Synergistic Cables
Secondary - OPPO 93 > VAC CLA 1 MKII Pre > Odyssey Stratos > Dynaudio Audience 82s > Tara Labs Cables
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January 5, 2020, 08:08 PM #7
Re: The vagaries of buying/selling used gear
Rob.......Hilarious post. I am still chuckling.
Dan
STUDIO - McIntosh C1000C/P, MC2301 (2), MR88, Aurender N10, Esoteric K-01X, Shunyata Sigma spdif digital coax, Sonos Connect, Stillpoints Ultra SS & Ultra Mini, PurePower 2000, Furutech Flux 50, Michell Gyro SE, Michell HR Power Supply, SME 309, Ortofon Cadenza Black, Sonus faber Amati Anniversario
LIVING ROOM - McIntosh C2300, MC75 (2), MR85, Magnum Dynalab 205 Signal Sleuth, Sonos Connect, Simaudio MOON Neo 260D-T, Schiit Audio Yggdrasil, Aurender N100H, Shunyata Sigma USB cable, Sony DAT 60ES, Nakamichi BX-300, Micro Seiki DD40 w/m505A tonearm, Ortofon Cadenza Blue, PS Audio P10, Furutech Flux 50, Stillpoints Ultra Mini, PMC EB1i, JL Audio f113
VINTAGE - McIntosh 4300V, McIntosh MA230, Tandberg 3011A tuner, Olive 04HD, JBL 4312A
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January 5, 2020, 09:33 PM #8
Re: The vagaries of buying/selling used gear
Great thread! Funny and so true!
I really dislike the process of selling used audio gear. I have been lucky so far to have dealt with honorable people._______________
Mike
Amplification: MBL 6010D, MBL 9008A Monos
Analog: Kuzma R, Kuzma 4Point (11”), MSL Ultra Eminent EX
Phono Pre: Pass XP-27
Digital: Esoteric N01XD Esoteric K05
Speakers: MBL 101E MKII
Subwoofers: REL Carbon Specials
Conditioner: Shunyata Triton 3
Power Cables: Shunyata Sigma 1 & 2, Alpha 2, Delta and Venom
ICs and SCs: Wireworld Platinum 8
Rack: Artesania Exoteryc
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January 5, 2020, 10:35 PM #9
Re: The vagaries of buying/selling used gear
Yeah, I’m laughing to. This is thee most f’d up hobby!
Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk ProSource Analog: Kuzma Stabi R w/4point 11 arm | Kuzma 50 Cartridge
Source Digital: Aurender N10 | Brinkmann Nyquist MK II
Amplification: Dan D’Agostino Momentum HD and M400’s | Boulder 508
Speakers: Wilson Alexias
Cabling: Nordost Leif, Norse, V2 and Odin
Power and Isolation: Audio-Ultra Home & Room Power Foundation Performance Package with StromTank S1000 | HRS
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January 25, 2020, 04:08 PM #10
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Re: The vagaries of buying/selling used gear
we've all been there, and seen some outrageous comments to sell gear,
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January 25, 2020, 04:31 PM #11
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Re: The vagaries of buying/selling used gear
When it comes to selling used gear the only thing that people really have is their reputation. If someone has shown to be shady or difficult in a prior transaction it is a non-starter for me. I do wish feedback on the various sites could be trusted 100%.
Speakers: Vandersteen Model 7 XTRM, 4 M&K ST-150Ts, 1 VCC-5; Amplification: 2 Vandersteen M7-HPAs, CI Audio D200 MKII, Ayre V-6xe; Preamp: Doshi Audio Line Stage v3.0; Phono Pre: Doshi Audio Phono Pre; Analog: Wave Kinetics NVS with Durand Tosca arm; SME 3012R arm, Ortofon Diamond Anna; Reel to Reel: Technics RS-1500; Doshi Tape Pre-Amp; Studer A810, Studer A812, Tascam BR-20; Multi-channel: Bryston SP-3; Digital: Taiko Audio Extreme> Lampizator Horizon, Oppo UDP-203;
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AudioShark forum is a leading forum site for High End Audio Discussion, Stereo System Discussion, Home Theater System Discussion, Best Home Stereo System Discussion, Home Theater Installation Discussion etc.
The AudioShark forum was created for sharing the passion of high-end Audio. We have Audiophiles from all over the world participating and sharing their knowledge. From novice to experts, you will find a friendly environment for discussing about High End Audio, Stereo System, Home Theater System, Home Stereo System, Home Theater Installation, Amplifiers, Speakers, Subwoofers, Integrated System, Acoustic treatments & Digital Room Corrections and many more.
At AudioShark, we also have incorporated an exciting Marketplace where members can peruse terrific buys on used gear, as well as meet dealers and discuss the purchase of new gear.
We are as crazy about this hobby as you are! So come on in and join us! Audioshark.org the Friendliest Audio Forum!
Industry Participation Disclosure : The owner and administrator of Audioshark is the owner of Suncoast Audio LLC in Sarasota Florida. Suncoast Audio has a full brick and mortar presence in Sarasota with several great show rooms with many world class brands. More information can be found at http://www.suncoastaudio.com
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Well, I want to share an experience about possible break-in... I have my k03-xd for about 1 year now and recently got into playing a lot of CDs (incl. SACD) which I might have done about 50 times...
My experience with the K-03XD