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    Question Taking My System Up a Few Notches

    First of all, let me start by saying I love solid state and I love tubes. For solid state I am running a McIntosh MA6200 integrated amp that is putting out 1000wpc. For tubes I am running a Jolida JD-202BRCthat is putting out 40wpc.

    All my audiophile life, I fell into the group who believes better sound comes from more wattage. It was never mentioned that in order to get better sound with more wattage, they left the part out that there are other factors in play that help to achieve the sound you are looking for.

    What if we concentrate on the other end of the spectrum by using a low watt power source. For me, I am looking into a low watt solid state amplifier and a tube preamp. If you go this route, you need to make sure your speakers have a high sensitivity of 90dB or greater. My current speakers are Focal 806V with Focal speaker stands are rated at 90dB. However, their recommended power is 25-120W. There are two speakers that I am considering

    I am also looking into getting another pair, the Tekton Design The Perfect SET with a rating of 96dB These are a radically design due to the array of tweeters at the top. The output power rating is 1-300W.The dimensions are 41.5" H x 14.0" W x 13.0" D

    The next set of speakers that are worth considering is the Zu Audio Omen MkII with a rating of 97dB, and the output power rating is 4-300W. The dimensions are 36" H x 12" W x 12"

    The power amplifier I am considering is the Pass ACA. This little popcorn fart is a small amp that can fit anywhere within your audio. It puts out a mind blowing 8wpc. I have always been a fan of Nelson Pass and the work he's done for small watts. I am really excited to have an opportunity to get a Pass ACA.

    Now comes the problem that I could use your advice / thoughts / recommendations. With the Pass ACA being solid state, I'm thinking about pairing a tube pre-amplifier. The idea of downsizing my audio system is very intriguing to me. Most of what I am finding online are the Asian tube integrated or a tube phono preamplifier. The only sources I will have is vinyl and internet radio. What would you think would be the right tube preamplifier? If possible, I would like to have some controls... Bass - Treble, etc. Balanced inputs would be nice but, I'm not sure if the amp is equipped with this.

    Thank you for reading my thread, and I hope everyone will have some interesting ideas. With your help and if I play my cards right, I should be able to put together a very nice low watt audio system to be proud of.

    This will be lots of fun!!
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    Re: Taking My System Up a Few Notches

    Budget, as that list of feature requirements won't get you small or inexpensive. Don't know what sources you will be using that would require Balanced inputs.
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    Re: Taking My System Up a Few Notches

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    Budget, as that list of feature requirements won't get you small or inexpensive. Don't know what sources you will be using that would require Balanced inputs.
    I'm not sure about the balanced inputs. Some companies have started including them on their components. The only sources I will be using will be a turntable and my network audio player.

    Once this thread takes off, please be sure to post pictures front and back so I can see what the component.
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    The balanced inputs are less of an issue as some manufacturers will include a pair that are for convenience only and are not truly balanced. Balance controls can be found also it's the tone controls you may find to be an issue without paying a whole lot more than what the amp will cost. So a budget range is pretty crucial if you want useful recommendations.
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    I made the monoblock version of the ACA when the first kits were released, and have Zu Omen Vs. I thought the sound was great. The DIY Aleph J, that I currently use, has a bit more grunt, and a tad more definition. The ACAs are in my office system, powering a smallish Tekton desktop speaker set.

    I enjoyed the ACA, my first SS project. The sound is amazingly good. ACA kit is up to $327 in its stereo chassis. It’s out of stock at DIYAudio store currently. Not sure if you are planning DIY, but you could try an entry tube amplifier kit from DIYAudio store, or Bottlehead. The ACA shows up for sale in resale sites. I have heard good and bad about cheap tube amps on eBay.

    Another low price, low part count, lowish wattage amp, is the “chip amp”, or Tripath. Kits and finished amps I have seen in the past. Seems like I have a modded one somewhere, that preceded the ACA at my office.

    Your experiment looks like fun.
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    Re: Taking My System Up a Few Notches

    Quote Originally Posted by Bones13 View Post
    I made the monoblock version of the ACA when the first kits were released, and have Zu Omen Vs. I thought the sound was great. The DIY Aleph J, that I currently use, has a bit more grunt, and a tad more definition. The ACAs are in my office system, powering a smallish Tekton desktop speaker set.

    I enjoyed the ACA, my first SS project. The sound is amazingly good. ACA kit is up to $327 in its stereo chassis. It’s out of stock at DIYAudio store currently. Not sure if you are planning DIY, but you could try an entry tube amplifier kit from DIYAudio store, or Bottlehead. The ACA shows up for sale in resale sites. I have heard good and bad about cheap tube amps on eBay.

    Another low price, low part count, lowish wattage amp, is the “chip amp”, or Tripath. Kits and finished amps I have seen in the past. Seems like I have a modded one somewhere, that preceded the ACA at my office.

    Your experiment looks like fun.
    Thank you Bones. I do believe this will be a fun project, and hopefully this will be something I can use.

    I knew the ACA had been discontinued but, I was fortunate to find one in great condition that I will be purchasing this coming Wednesday. The speakers are no problem, I just need to decide which brand to go with. The only obstacle in my way is the tube preamplifier. I'm not sure how I should approach this. Do I really want to use an Asian product. If it's possible, I would like to stick with American products. One viable option would be to see if Schiit has something that will work. I need to check them out soon.
    Understeer is when you hit the wall with your front end. Oversteer is when you hit the wall with your rear end. Horsepower is how hard you hit the wall. Torque is how far you move the wall.

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    I fall into the group that believes better sound usually come from better speakers .............
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    Re: Taking My System Up a Few Notches

    I thought I would give an update on my journey. The Pass ACA will be arriving tomorrow. Now the search is on for a tube preamplifier. Phono preamp or no phono preamp doesn't matter and is not a game changer for me. What is important to me is that I can find a preamp that will have more than two connections for other sources. If this will cause the price to be higher, I may consider having just two. I am also looking for a pair of speakers that will be the ideal fit. The two I am looking at Zu Audio and Tekton Design.

    Please feel free to make recommendations on the tube preamp and / or speakers. I am hoping to order the speakers within the next few weeks. Thanks for reading and offering your recommendations. The journey continues!
    Understeer is when you hit the wall with your front end. Oversteer is when you hit the wall with your rear end. Horsepower is how hard you hit the wall. Torque is how far you move the wall.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikado463 View Post
    I fall into the group that believes better sound usually come from better speakers .............
    I fall into the group that recognizes that truly better sound ALWAYS comes from better set-up. Only then can you fully unlock your music.

    Even though I've installed & voiced maybe 1000 systems (with most clients saying that it is/was the best money they ever spent on their systems), my statement is still IMO & IME. Not stated as an irrefutable fact, although I admit that I can't help but think it is...
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