Is someone still using compact discs

**Alkyogre** · June 4, 2023, 05:39 PM

Yesterday I got a new cd player.

Hope to buy alot of cd's. Nowadays they are everywhere at second hand shops and no one seems to care anymore. Today I aqcuired 5 cd's 1 from barbara streisand, 2 celine dion and 2 katie melua, alltogether for the price of a loaf of bread. 25 years ago I paid 18 euro for these, each.

I think I will turn more cd's, and the feeling of having instead of internet play has also something extra. Really looking forward in old fashioned buying discs from everywhere.

Am I the only one and are cd's really dead?

**crwilli** · June 4, 2023, 07:51 PM

I don’t ‘play’ them but I do buy them. Usually to be immediately ripped to my server.

**GSOphile** · June 4, 2023, 08:08 PM

Yup.... and SACDs, where there is a wealth of excellent classical recordings.

**Nikhil** · June 4, 2023, 08:22 PM

CD Playback is making a comeback in my circle of friends.
It has been a surprise to hear how good CDs sound.

.

**nicoff** · June 4, 2023, 09:36 PM

Originally Posted by Alkyogre

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Am I the only one and are cd's really dead?

CDs are not dead yet but are moribund.

Chart: The Rise and Fall of the Compact Disc | Statista

**CPP** · June 5, 2023, 08:31 AM

Yep playing a CCR disc right now

**Shadowfax** · June 5, 2023, 09:56 AM

CD is my main playback. I have lots of them.

**Mikado463** · June 5, 2023, 10:49 AM

CD's, just like the almighty LP's continue to be enjoyed on my various rigs, including my vehicles

**SCAudiophile** · June 5, 2023, 02:05 PM

Originally Posted by nicoff

CDs are not dead yet but are moribund.

Chart: The Rise and Fall of the Compact Disc | Statista

Originally Posted by Alkyogre

Yesterday I got a new cd player.

Hope to buy alot of cd's. Nowadays they are everywhere at second hand shops and no one seems to care anymore. Today I aqcuired 5 cd's 1 from barbara streisand, 2 celine dion and 2 katie melua, alltogether for the price of a loaf of bread. 25 years ago I paid 18 euro for these, each.

I think I will turn more cd's, and the feeling of having instead of internet play has also something extra. Really looking forward in old fashioned buying discs from everywhere.

Am I the only one and are cd's really dead?

You are not the only one,...

The only playback means I use: any Redbook CD format (CD, SHM-CD, Bluespec2, various XRCD formats including XRCD, K2HD, XRCD2, XRCD24, SHM XRCD), many SACDs, and a few HDCD (played back as RBCD).

New production of all these formats is going strong...

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**SCAudiophile** · June 5, 2023, 02:11 PM

Originally Posted by nicoff

CDs are not dead yet but are moribund.

Chart: The Rise and Fall of the Compact Disc | Statista

Those charts are for tracked US sales only....they totally ignore a multitude of new production of discs of all kinds in Asia, particularly Japan, and all of the UK, Europe and the rest of the world.

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**Alkyogre** · June 5, 2023, 04:11 PM

What I miss is the seeking and buying. And those shop owners helped me with really nice stuff. A little bit talking, and sometimes listening to those headphones in the store. They helped me with really fine recordings.

And now with my new player, I came across that cd's sound so well, think it is a little bit better then my streaming stuff and like to start buying again. Luckily in my neighbourhood there are still 2 nice cd stores left.

**SCAudiophile** · June 5, 2023, 06:08 PM

I understand as I miss the heyday of the music store very much for LPs, discs, etc. lots of great memories.

You can thank the internet in general, Jeff Bezos (Amazon), Ebay, etc...

On the positive side, the number of ways to buy discs and research music online is staggering and far beyond what a local shop could provide sans the great ones (Tower Records and several others...)

Today, Amazon, Ebay, Discogs, ImportCDs.com, CDJapan, Tower Records Japan, individual websites for various classical, jazz and other labels/other genres and sites like the Berlin Philharmonic and many others world wide will help you empty your wallet to your heart's desire and beyond.

You can believe me on this

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**nicoff** · June 5, 2023, 08:19 PM

Originally Posted by SCAudiophile

Those charts are for tracked US sales only....they totally ignore a multitude of new production of discs of all kinds in Asia, particularly Japan, and all of the UK, Europe and the rest of the world.

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Interesting to hear about CDs doing well in other parts of the world. When I travel I often see street vendors selling pirated CDs. I guess those count too!

**nicoff** · June 5, 2023, 08:31 PM

I owned two CD players. One I kept for ripping SACDs. But then came high-def streaming and found no use for it anymore.
In my system, physical CDs and (CD-quality) streaming sound the same, so while I no longer listen to CDs, I still keep one CD player handy just in case!

**SCAudiophile** · June 5, 2023, 10:08 PM

Originally Posted by nicoff

Interesting to hear about CDs doing well in other parts of the world. When I travel I often see street vendors selling pirated CDs. I guess those count too!

Not the pirated ones.....hell no!

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**brodricj** · June 6, 2023, 12:53 AM

Originally Posted by SCAudiophile

The only playback means I use: any Redbook CD format...

But of course. You have Esoteric Grandioso.

**jlchen** · June 6, 2023, 04:55 AM

I also just upgraded from K01XD to K1X a few weeks ago.

**JCS123** · June 6, 2023, 07:16 AM

I like to have SOME Cd's around for when the wifi isn't working at home, long road trips through the mountains when I know there's going to be spotty-at-best radio reception, titles that aren't included in (or suddenly disappear from) my streaming service, etc.

A big consideration is whether or not someone wants to hear the same thing multiple times, or would they rather be discovering new music most of the time. On cost, streaming wins hands down. No way I can afford to buy everything I am curious about, and also no way I want to keep hearing the same thing over and over, regardless of format.

**still-one** · June 6, 2023, 08:10 AM

I think I have purchased two discs over the past three years. I have tossed many more than that as I don't like clutter. I need to once again go through Roon to see which burned discs aren't getting any plays and delete more of those and get rid of the associated discs. I am more than happy to use Tidal to play a disc I may not have . Should I desire to play one in the future and by chance its not available, I'll just play another title.

**Projectman** · June 6, 2023, 12:55 PM

Well Curated CD Collection - 6000 CDs for $1500.00

This looks like a good deal - Well Curated CD Collection - cds / dvds / vhs - by owner -...

From the seller - “I’m a semi-retired radio producer that is parting with a well-curated collection of CDs that has been carefully alphabetized and stored in covered plastic tubs. Collection includes Vintage and Modern Jazz, Rhythm & Blues, Latin and Brazilian Jazz, and soulful World Music.

I am pricing the entire collection of 6000 CDs to sell at the bulk discount of $.25 cents per disk, with a total sale price of $1,500-cash only.

All CD cases are in very good to excellent condition.

Please let me know when you would be available to pick them up at my Sarasota location. Serious buyers only.”

**nicoff** · June 6, 2023, 01:09 PM

Originally Posted by Projectman

Well Curated CD Collection - 6000 CDs for $1500.00

This looks like a good deal - Well Curated CD Collection - cds / dvds / vhs - by owner -...

I’m a semi-retired radio producer that is parting with a well-curated collection of CDs that has been carefully alphabetized and stored in covered plastic tubs. Collection includes Vintage and Modern Jazz, Rhythm & Blues, Latin and Brazilian Jazz, and soulful World Music.

I am pricing the entire collection of 6000 CDs to sell at the bulk discount of $.25 cents per disk, with a total sale price of $1,500-cash only.

All CD cases are in very good to excellent condition.

Please let me know when you would be available to pick them up at my Sarasota location. Serious buyers only.

If you were willing to ship, maybe the OP would buy them from you. He could save over $100k even if he pays for shipping.

**a.wayne** · June 6, 2023, 03:27 PM

Originally Posted by Alkyogre

Yesterday I got a new cd player.

Hope to buy alot of cd's. Nowadays they are everywhere at second hand shops and no one seems to care anymore. Today I aqcuired 5 cd's 1 from barbara streisand, 2 celine dion and 2 katie melua, alltogether for the price of a loaf of bread. 25 years ago I paid 18 euro for these, each.

I think I will turn more cd's, and the feeling of having instead of internet play has also something extra. Really looking forward in old fashioned buying discs from everywhere.

Am I the only one and are cd's really dead?

1700 CD's and counting, CD's are not dead with a good CDT/DAC its still the best way to listen to original (redbook) 16/44 and HDCD recordings ...

Regards

**Alkyogre** · June 7, 2023, 05:01 PM

About sound quality, cd sounds so amazingly well. I invested in a player that is now the most expensive part of my set, and it outplays my streaming system, so much depth and details. It has a philips laser and a philips running gear which are the best made and out of production for a long time. The table on which the cd is loaded is decoupled from the ground, which prevents any vibrations.

SQ is even slightly better then my streaming stuff. Starting to love turning cd’s again, 💿

**mresseguie** · June 7, 2023, 11:47 PM

I own two CDTs and a seldom used Oppo 103. In the past couple years, I've bought anywhere from 3 to 15 CDs at a time, and 25 to 40 per year. That's not a huge number, but I also stream a lot as well.

**wisnon** · June 8, 2023, 05:52 PM

Originally Posted by Alkyogre

Yesterday I got a new cd player.

Hope to buy alot of cd's. Nowadays they are everywhere at second hand shops and no one seems to care anymore. Today I aqcuired 5 cd's 1 from barbara streisand, 2 celine dion and 2 katie melua, alltogether for the price of a loaf of bread. 25 years ago I paid 18 euro for these, each.

I think I will turn more cd's, and the feeling of having instead of internet play has also something extra. Really looking forward in old fashioned buying discs from everywhere.

Am I the only one and are cd's really dead?

I have been collecting CDs and old vinyl for free from my local dump (exchange zone) and at the Charity shop, CDs are $1 each and vinyl from 2-4 bucks. Similar at flea markets. I managed to score like 150 classical CDs in one drop early one and would say that I got about 300 free Cds and maybe 150 vinyl for free? I bought CD brief cases and even got some free from the Dump exchange zone. I strip out the CDs and leaflets from the jewel boxes, so have about 8 CD briefcases almost full. They hold from 100 CDs to 250 CDs each. I only strip regular CDs, not double CDs or CDs in special cardboard or commemorative cases. Jazz and Classical are the biggest genres I have. Lots of fancy labels too, like Decca, Telarc, teldec, Verve, ECM, ACT, Stockfisch, and a few MA recordings too. I am quite happy with this.

**wisnon** · June 8, 2023, 06:03 PM

Originally Posted by SCAudiophile

You are not the only one,...

The only playback means I use: any Redbook CD format (CD, SHM-CD, Bluespec2, various XRCD formats including XRCD, K2HD, XRCD2, XRCD24, SHM XRCD), many SACDs, and a few HDCD (played back as RBCD).

New production of all these formats is going strong...

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I have many of these too, including UHQCD. I use a modded Denon universal player that has all the extra functions ripped out and CD signal tapped at source leading directly to a new Spdif output (no output transformer to degrade the signal). Luckily the HDCD function remains intact. I play SACD with my Onkyo Sacd player which uses discrete components.

**RPM-123** · June 13, 2023, 05:17 PM

I still play CDs and in fact, I am looking to purchase a new player. There is still a lot of good music in CDs!

**steve59** · June 17, 2023, 09:24 AM

I still have a few cd's that aren't on either tidal or qobuz, but I sure don't use them enough to justify upgrading my antique rega jupiter, especially since it has a digital out.

**Alkyogre** · June 17, 2023, 01:45 PM

Originally Posted by steve59

I still have a few cd's that aren't on either tidal or qobuz, but I sure don't use them enough to justify upgrading my antique rega jupiter, especially since it has a digital out.

You can easily rip your cd's to that roon nucleus. Hook an internal or external SSD to your nucleus, format it with Roon. After that hook an external USB cd-player on the nucleus and Roon starts ripping the cd automaticaly. Then those cd's are playable in Roon, even when it is not in the Tidal/Qobuz database.

**Alkyogre** · June 17, 2023, 01:51 PM

An update about this: At one of those big cd shops, I acquired 29 new cd's. I really love the sound of my new player and looking forward to listen to these.

**a.wayne** · June 19, 2023, 01:59 PM

Originally Posted by Alkyogre

You can easily rip your cd's to that roon nucleus. Hook an internal or external SSD to your nucleus, format it with Roon. After that hook an external USB cd-player on the nucleus and Roon starts ripping the cd automaticaly. Then those cd's are playable in Roon, even when it is not in the Tidal/Qobuz database.

The SQ will not be the same vs the CDP ....

Regards

**rbbert** · June 20, 2023, 11:04 AM

Originally Posted by a.wayne

The SQ will not be the same vs the CDP ....

Regards

Better? Worse? Won't it depend on the specific CDP vs. the DAC used with the Nucleus (and the connection to the DAC)?

**a.wayne** · June 20, 2023, 01:48 PM

Originally Posted by rbbert

Better? Worse? Won't it depend on the specific CDP vs. the DAC used with the Nucleus (and the connection to the DAC)?

All academic, really , But most would use the same DAC for both CDP and server ....

Regards

**Lee Scoggins** · June 21, 2023, 07:23 PM

I listen to CDs a fair bit. Since the 80s I have been buying CDs with an eye to getting the best mastered ones. A great mastering really makes a difference!

I love the convenience of streaming but the record labels generally don’t give a you know what about sound quality.

**GSOphile** · June 21, 2023, 08:42 PM

Originally Posted by Lee Scoggins

I listen to CDs a fair bit. Since the 80s I have been buying CDs with an eye to getting the best mastered ones. A great mastering really makes a difference!

I love the convenience of streaming but the record labels generally don’t give a you know what about sound quality.

I agree. Similar to vinyl in this respect, but probably less noticed, maybe due in part to the 'bits-is-bits' crowd.

**mdp632** · June 22, 2023, 06:03 PM

Originally Posted by a.wayne

The SQ will not be the same vs the CDP ....

Regards

Too many variables in "File-Based or streaming playback", Extreme servers, routers , switches , network cables. external power supplies. usb de crappers oh my :-)

CD Player = Analog out right to your pre-amp. Less opportunities for distortion to enter the signal path.

**gadawg** · July 2, 2023, 02:47 PM

I tend to prefer CD to streaming or file playback because of sound quality. In my case I have a fairly decent CDT/DAC combo (Esoteric P-02X/D-02x) and my music server is clearly not on the same level (Aurender N100H). Still it’s not bad when playing files off of the drive but streaming definitely isn’t quite as good. With that in mind I’m going to audition an N20 and N30SA in the next few months at home and see if either of those can close the gap with my Esoteric transport. Should be fun!

George

**Dizzie** · July 2, 2023, 04:42 PM

Heck yea! I still use CDs. Lucky I found one that fell on the floor and rolled under the car seat. You guys are too serious.

**a.wayne** · July 2, 2023, 05:09 PM

CD’s wont be affected by social Credit scores ....!

**Alkyogre** · July 2, 2023, 05:18 PM

Even my granny used cd’s. She made Christmas cards from them.

**Golum** · July 6, 2023, 03:57 PM

Rediscovering the beauty of playing CDs. Acquired CH Precision D1 transport via Lampi Horiizon and they sound amazing...
Hence every month several new Cds in the collection :-)

**jaynyc** · July 14, 2023, 09:46 PM

CD playback is so good I occasionally burn downloaded FLACs to CDR to listen…..

**nicoff** · July 15, 2023, 10:40 AM

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**SCAudiophile** · July 15, 2023, 01:50 PM

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**SCAudiophile** · July 15, 2023, 01:54 PM

Originally Posted by nicoff

Interesting to hear about CDs doing well in other parts of the world. When I travel I often see street vendors selling pirated CDs. I guess those count too!

No they do not count.

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**a.wayne** · July 15, 2023, 01:54 PM

I like the part were all 5 beat downloads....!!!

**a.wayne** · July 15, 2023, 01:57 PM

Originally Posted by nicoff

Interesting to hear about CDs doing well in other parts of the world. When I travel I often see street vendors selling pirated CDs. I guess those count too!

Street vendors where ? In CA ...?

**Mr Peabody** · July 17, 2023, 12:23 PM

A friend went to the New Orleans Jazz Fest, he told me there was a tent where you could buy CD's of some of the prior day performances. I thought that was a cool thing and CD makes a nice medium for that.

**Shadowfax** · July 17, 2023, 12:27 PM

Originally Posted by Mr Peabody

A friend went to the New Orleans Jazz Fest, he told me there was a tent where you could buy CD's of some of the prior day performances. I thought that was a cool thing and CD makes a nice medium for that.

I saw the California Guitar Trio several years ago and on the way out they were burning disks of the show and they all signed them when you bought one.

**a.wayne** · July 17, 2023, 07:53 PM

Originally Posted by Shadowfax

I saw the California Guitar Trio several years ago and on the way out they were burning disks of the show and they all signed them when you bought one.

Brian ,

We attend plenty events like that here , the wife always buy CD’s from the performers as a memento and for support , never been disappointed the quality were always very good ..!

Regards

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