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June 26, 2022, 02:30 PM #1
Shots fired!
What happens when the meter readers disagree!
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June 26, 2022, 05:23 PM #2
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Hateful discourse and unending strife. I have learned it is best for me as an audiophile to not partake in that dark sector of our hobby. Cancel culture runs deep in some forums.
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June 26, 2022, 07:59 PM #3
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June 27, 2022, 06:01 AM #4
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IMO Amir has shown he did not understand the idea behind this speaker. It is small, desktop speaker meant for nearfild listening, which by design (and the laws of physics) will not have bass. You just can't have any bass from 3" driver. You have to either accept it, as it is the case with all desktop speakers or run a separate subwoofer with them (woofer would probably be a better term here) to get a more full range sound.
I have watched many GR Research vids and the guy looks like he knows what he is talking about.
Amir seems to be impressed by the larger GR Research speaker kit he measured (second link).
I read ASR for Amir's measurements, but don't even bother reading the comments. Just a waste of time. ASR community is a flat earth society of sorts for me.Adam
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June 27, 2022, 10:24 AM #5
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June 27, 2022, 10:35 AM #6
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June 27, 2022, 11:40 AM #7
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June 27, 2022, 02:12 PM #8Rob
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June 27, 2022, 03:03 PM #9
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June 27, 2022, 05:28 PM #10
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AJ, you should send a pair of your speakers to Amir to be measured and tested.
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June 27, 2022, 05:52 PM #11
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That too would be comedy gold.
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June 27, 2022, 06:49 PM #12
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Despite the name of Amir's website, he is not "scientifically literate", and his technical credentials and abilities have been questioned by some EE's with more education and knowledge. Also remember that while the "upper echelon" of scientific thinkers in the late Middle Ages knew that the Earth was both round and revolved around the sun, there were plenty of self proclaimed "authorities" at the time who did not seem to be aware of this.
Being dogmatic at either end of the spectrum merely illustrates the Dunning-Kreuger effect.Rob
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June 27, 2022, 06:52 PM #13
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Leave us flat earthers out of the ASR confliction.
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June 27, 2022, 07:17 PM #14
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I know, you're obviously oblivious to our history on AVS, HA, etc.
Completely irrelevant to 2022 projectionists. The hilarity of Flat Earther projection remains.
Kruger.
No, that's called false equivalence. Not what Dr Dunning found at all. It was the "one end of the spectrum" being completely oblivious of their place on the spectrum. The "other" end had (self) awareness of spectrum.
I find the whole audio celebrity Youtube beef thing to be highly amusing. Solid entertainment.
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June 28, 2022, 04:11 PM #15
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I would say that each end of the subjectivist/objectivist (audio) spectrum is oblivious, which I thought was clear.
No, I am not aware of your history with Amir, only my own. I do know that he is banned from AVS Forums. I also know that over the course of many emails and one in-person discussion he simply refused to acknowledge that 1) there are many EE's and physicists who are more knowledgable and better educated than he in matters of both audio electronics and the physics of sound, and 2) that the scientific method of establishing fact (or evidence) involves more than simply performing a (self-chosen) suite of measurements - except when discussing methods of speaker evaluation as performed at Harman labs.
Most of us know about how Harman evaluates speaker preference, and the significant limitations of its approach (although to be fair it has also produced useful information). And to be clear, if it isn't, I am not saying that I know more than Amir about performing measurements; what he does he now does pretty well (and that has not always been true). Others who do know more than either Amir or I have expressed their opinions about that, and whether he is measuring the "right" things and interpreting them correctly.Rob
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June 28, 2022, 10:59 PM #16
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June 29, 2022, 08:47 AM #17
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Not sure who "us" is in this context, but ok.
Well I'm a long time AES and IEEE member and would be happy to look at any published work about "significant limitations", as I'm pretty well versed in this area. Links?
No one sensible should associate/conflate what Amir does and Harman, sorry. The Klippel NFS yields excellent data. The data itself he publishes looks fine to me. The comments, drawn "fit" lines, interpretations, etc vary from reasonable to complete nonsense. I usually skip any "subjective" comments as they lean toward the latter. None of which has anything to do with the scientific method as published by Harman et al. Yes, I'm aware he "listens" in mono. NOT like Harman.
cheers,
AJ
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June 29, 2022, 08:50 AM #18
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June 29, 2022, 08:55 AM #19
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Why are we airing ASR dirty laundry on AudioShark? We are not advancing anything constructive related to the audio hobby. IMHO
Marty
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June 29, 2022, 10:48 AM #20
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Grab some popcorn Marty, the plot thickens
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June 29, 2022, 10:50 AM #21
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Actually it's even better. Amir built the speaker without insulation (because the kit did not include it). He also does not round off the edges (edge diffraction?) or consider any of the other recommended improvements (No Rez etc). He then criticizes the data he has measured on spectral decay, impedance and port noise etc completely oblivious to the effects of enclosure resonance on all those measurements.
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June 29, 2022, 10:55 AM #22
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He didn't build either speaker, just measure. But yes, it's helpful to test something properly, as would be presented to users.
Please see latest link above.
Again, not much can be done to a 3" fullrange. Except laugh at the whole drama its created. Yes, I know there's more to the beef, but it seemed the final straw/trigger. Lets enjoy the show, shall we?
cheers,
AJ
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June 29, 2022, 05:09 PM #23
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I'm sorry, I must be a bit out of date. Harman no longer tests one speaker at a time, but rather stereo pairs? I do know that when Amir worked for Harman (and even after he left) they tested only in mono.
At one point many years ago Amir measured a bunch of different cables, including a coat hanger, and found that they all measured about the same (L, C, R, and frequency response in the audible range).
Why does he not measure impulse response for DAC's?Rob
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June 29, 2022, 06:27 PM #24
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No, the opposite, they test almost exclusively in mono, after initially testing in stereo when they got the shuffler. I corresponded with Toole about this long ago. The correlation was inevitable that the mono winner also won in stereo. There's never been an opposite. There have been close exceptions like the Quad ESL. But no reverse. You have to also understand the context. 99.9% of the market are monopoles, which is also what they make/sell. The chance of a reverse there is zero. They can/would test in stereo for something unusual. The shuffler does both. Mono is extremely revealing for FR errors, resonances and a host of other issues critical when developing. I know, since I do. Its quite startling if you've never done. Now for spatial aspects, while mono is highly predictive for monopoles, stereo is still better for special cases.
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So test in mono, but listen in both mono/stereo if needed.
Amir has never worked for Harman. He worked at Microsoft.
cheers,
AJ
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June 30, 2022, 12:14 PM #25
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It will be interesting to read the fallout between fans on both sides. I briefly met Danny at CES a number of years back and invited him to our room to meet and talk with Andy Payor. I have also been a long time member at the AudioCircles where Danny has a company forum. I know he has done design work for other companies over the years.
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June 30, 2022, 03:17 PM #26
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So why did you originally post that Harman does NOT test in mono (post #17)? Or did you mean they listen in stereo and test in mono (not exactly what you posted, though)? And the unreliable results testing only one dipole on their rotating turntable set-up is what I meant by "limitations"; there are a lot of dipole speakers these days.
Amir either worked for or contracted with Harman after leaving Microsoft. He purchased most of his current "reference" system from them at employee pricing, and was involved with parts of their speaker research, including at least the JBL Everest (according to him).Rob
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June 30, 2022, 03:46 PM #27
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Sheesh, I even put the quote marks as emphasis, nothing about Harman not listening in mono, but not "listening".
Yes, I'm aware he "listens" in mono. NOT like Harman.
Huh? Please link the "reliable" results that contradict their "unreliable" dipole ones. You seem almost lower spectrum oblivious to what they actually do . There is no "rotating turntable", its a robotic system that grabs and places (shuffles) the speaker in place. Wish I had one!
I cited Olive himself acknowledging the need for something with full dipole like directivity to probably be mono/stereo tested. Linked above.
What's the "limitation" there?? And again, dipoles are still a miniscule part of the total consumer market, including the high end. Heck, Mike doesnt carry a single one ;-).
Look forward to your dipoles test data links.
No idea where you got this misinformation. Amir never ever worked for Harman. His Madrona home automation business carries Harman products, so he's a dealer and thus gets dealer pricing on his personal stuff. It would be really helpful to provide links to what you claim.
cheers,
AJ
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June 30, 2022, 03:53 PM #28
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June 30, 2022, 03:57 PM #29
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Ruh roh. What are those?
Bottom ones look Apogee-ish
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June 30, 2022, 07:27 PM #30
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From Amir's posts at WBF. I should have put "rotating turntable" in quotes; that was indeed only a metaphor for the layout at Harman's labs, which has been described in detail by Sean Olive, as you note.
As far as dipoles, there are more every year, and aimed almost exclusively at the high-end, so certainly if you include the entire home speaker market they will (probably) never have more than a small fraction of it. OTOH, most people buying home speakers don't care about the results of Harman's tests either.Rob
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June 30, 2022, 07:32 PM #31Rob
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June 30, 2022, 08:41 PM #32
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No, I cheated with Google Lens and the name at bottom of top pic made sense. But I'll let Mike break the news.
Ok take my word, Amir has never designed a speaker in his life, nor worked for Harman. Just a dealer. He's probably attended some of their dealer classes and been to the test lab with shuffler, so experienced their blind testing procedure, where its entirely possible to test dipoles, in stereo. No "limitations". It's my understanding that for a fee, one can even bring own speakers. Should one be so inclined.
cheers
AJ
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June 30, 2022, 08:41 PM #33
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July 1, 2022, 08:26 AM #34
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July 1, 2022, 08:27 AM #35Rob
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July 1, 2022, 08:51 AM #36
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July 1, 2022, 09:11 AM #37
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July 1, 2022, 09:29 AM #38
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July 1, 2022, 12:45 PM #39
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July 1, 2022, 01:30 PM #40
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July 1, 2022, 01:53 PM #41
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July 1, 2022, 01:55 PM #42
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Who is the manufacturer of the speakers?
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July 1, 2022, 02:51 PM #43
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AudioShark forum is a leading forum site for High End Audio Discussion, Stereo System Discussion, Home Theater System Discussion, Best Home Stereo System Discussion, Home Theater Installation Discussion etc.
The AudioShark forum was created for sharing the passion of high-end Audio. We have Audiophiles from all over the world participating and sharing their knowledge. From novice to experts, you will find a friendly environment for discussing about High End Audio, Stereo System, Home Theater System, Home Stereo System, Home Theater Installation, Amplifiers, Speakers, Subwoofers, Integrated System, Acoustic treatments & Digital Room Corrections and many more.
At AudioShark, we also have incorporated an exciting Marketplace where members can peruse terrific buys on used gear, as well as meet dealers and discuss the purchase of new gear.
We are as crazy about this hobby as you are! So come on in and join us! Audioshark.org the Friendliest Audio Forum!
Industry Participation Disclosure : The owner and administrator of Audioshark is the owner of Suncoast Audio LLC in Sarasota Florida. Suncoast Audio has a full brick and mortar presence in Sarasota with several great show rooms with many world class brands. More information can be found at http://www.suncoastaudio.com
Audioshark is a community of like minded individuals. Audioshark welcomes participation from all manufacturers and owners of all brands and products. It is our belief that online forums provide a community of like minded audiophiles and music lovers to encourage the growth of this wonderful hobby.
Sincerely,
The Audioshark.org Team
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