Seriously? Who do they think they are fooling?

**Mike** · July 1, 2020, 05:50 PM

Who do they think they are fooling with this fake discount sale? Don’t share with everyone else? Everyone got it!

Do they really think people are that stupid?

I have more to say, but I’ll bite my tongue.

Somebody is smoking too much Ganja in Colorado.

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**crwilli** · July 1, 2020, 06:24 PM

I got it but didn’t read it.

**Mike** · July 1, 2020, 06:31 PM

Originally Posted by crwilli

I got it but didn’t read it.

Smart. Delete it.

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**NorthStar** · July 1, 2020, 06:50 PM

PS Audio?

There must be a pandemic going on and business is slow.

**joeinid** · July 1, 2020, 07:17 PM

Lol

**brad225** · July 1, 2020, 07:42 PM

Just like my Great-Great-Uncle, the Prince, in Uganda that keeps trying to send me millions of $.

**Tubes** · July 1, 2020, 07:50 PM

OK, I'm an idiot. I used the password they provided in the email and followed the link. Everything looked legit when I got there but I'm not in the market for their top-of-the-line stuff.

This is the email I received:

Hi Steve,

In the spring of 2015 we launched an exciting partnership with a great friend and talented engineer, Bascom H. King (BHK for short). In the ensuing five years, Bascom’s analog gear has captivated listeners the world over. After garnering dozens of reviews and awards, we want to celebrate all of his hard work. This July we’re offering a private sale on all BHK products.

To access the private sale page go here https://www.psaudio.com/products/private-bhk-offer/ and log in using your password: XXXXXXX

Once we sell out of the existing stock we will shut down access to the page. And thank you for not sharing this private sale or the link/password with anyone else.

As always, call or write to me anytime. Have a great rest of your week!

All my best,
Scott
—
Scott McGowan
Director, Hi-Fi Specialists
www.psaudio.com | 1-800-PS-AUDIO
p. 720-406-8946
e. scott@psaudio.com

He included his actual email and PS Audio's phone number. Is it really a scam?

**Randy Myers** · July 1, 2020, 08:35 PM

I don't think it is a spammer, just PS Audio lying to us. I believe that is Mike's point. Anyway I deleted unread this morning.

**Tubes** · July 1, 2020, 08:53 PM

Can you fill me in on what they're lying about?

**NorthStar** · July 1, 2020, 09:00 PM

PS Audio /// Scott McGowan is Paul's son.

☆ PS Audio - Wikipedia

Some of the most honest audio people in the audiophile community.
AUDIO Business solid as the rock of Gibraltar.

On the other hand ... some other audio companies can improve their practice.

**Tubes** · July 1, 2020, 09:03 PM

As you can tell from my signature, I'm fairly familiar with PS Audio and I'm still confused as to what they're lying about.

**Alpinist** · July 1, 2020, 09:06 PM

I would have checked it out but I like my Vandy 7 Mk2’s too much to pass DC through them.

Ken

**Randy Myers** · July 1, 2020, 09:31 PM

Originally Posted by Tubes

As you can tell from my signature, I'm fairly familiar with PS Audio and I'm still confused as to what they're lying about.

How I read it was this exclusive group is getting some extra special deal for a very limited time... which is complete BS... anyone could get the same deal.

I have meet Paul and spoken with Ted. I have also owned PS Audio gear. I have no animosity to these guys but the mailing is non-sense. It is not this super secret deal for me because I am so special... it is a sale that anyone can get... ok, cool... don't make it out like they picked me because I am so special. Be up front and honest... that simple.

**NorthStar** · July 1, 2020, 09:35 PM

Like I said; this pandemic makes few orbiting differently in some strange ways ...

**Tubes** · July 1, 2020, 09:49 PM

OK, now I understand what you're talking about, and it makes sense. I was thinking that you were suggesting that it's some kind of bait and switch scam. You bring up a good point; I'm sure that anyone with the money would be able to get their "exclusive" deal.

**Mike** · July 1, 2020, 09:56 PM

Originally Posted by Alpinist

I would have checked it out but I like my Vandy 7 Mk2’s too much to pass DC through them.

Ken

You don’t want any fireworks for the 4th?

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**Randy Myers** · July 1, 2020, 09:58 PM

Exactly... not meant as a big negative to PS Audio... I just am not a fan of BS advertising. They would have a much better chance of getting me to purchase another piece from them by being up front and honest with me.

**Tubes** · July 1, 2020, 10:11 PM

Understood and well said.

**TheGemState** · July 1, 2020, 10:44 PM

How is this being dishonest? Now that PSAudio is direct can you buy their product online at a discount in US? Sure before when there were dealers you could get deals.
The offer is for anyone with the password which I can go on a purchase thru their site at a reduction.

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**UltraFast69** · July 1, 2020, 10:48 PM

Kinda on the line of the candidate messages I get for donations.

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**Mike** · July 1, 2020, 10:51 PM

Originally Posted by Randy Myers

Exactly... not meant as a big negative to PS Audio... I just am not a fan of BS advertising. They would have a much better chance of getting me to purchase another piece from them by being up front and honest with me.

Agreed. What’s with this secret exclusive, private sale, you need a password BS? It’s no secret if everyone gets the same email.

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**TheGemState** · July 1, 2020, 10:54 PM

Originally Posted by Mike

Agreed. What’s with this secret exclusive, private sale, you need a password BS? It’s no secret if everyone gets the same email.

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If does not say secret. It says private which is likely everyone on their mailing list. Seems like people are making a mountain out of a mole hill.

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**tino27** · July 1, 2020, 11:32 PM

Got the same email. I see this as a convenient way to get into the BHK series at a 33% discount if PS Audio is your jam. Maybe they have extra stock to move and they wanted to offer it first to people who've expressed an interest by signing up to the mailing list. Don't forget that PS Audio offers a buy back program for your current gear, so the non-privileged (e.g., those NOT on the mailing list) can still get the same BHK gear for a similar discount by trading in their old gear. With the right trade-in, you'd be getting a very similar deal.

**NorthStar** · July 2, 2020, 12:43 AM

Originally Posted by Mike

Agreed. What’s with this secret exclusive, private sale, you need a password BS? It’s no secret if everyone gets the same email.

It's to make you feel special, unique, privileged...like your wife sweet talking to you when she needs a new pair of shoes.

They like you, they like your money more. It's normal during a pandemic; they need stimuli, and your money provide that. They know how to operate, by massaging your brain, and your wallet.

They're good these guys, they're very good. ...Wise guys. They are special, just let them know how special they are...ask them if they would like a free trip to the pyramids in Egypt?

**NorthStar** · July 2, 2020, 01:06 AM

Originally Posted by UltraFast69

Kinda on the line of the candidate messages I get for donations.

They need masks for their employees and hand sanitizers. Not the ones made in China and Mexico or Canada, but the ones made in America. Just use your magic password, bank of America credit card magic number.

Before the pandemic it wasn't too bad, now it's getting worse every day.
Wait another six months ... they'll come right up to your front door ringing that door bell.
Best to prepare and lock yourself in; externally and Internet alley. We're going to see a lot more bankruptcies in the next six months. It's inevitable.

**XV-1** · July 2, 2020, 05:09 AM

How much are they selling the non moving 15K PS Audio BHK Signature 300 for now?

Now that they factory direct I assume they sell them for 9k a pair that they no longer have to support retail pricing - bring the savings direct to the customer.

so the special prices are 6k or less?

**Mike** · July 2, 2020, 07:42 AM

Originally Posted by XV-1

How much are they selling the non moving 15K PS Audio BHK Signature 300 for now?

Now that they factory direct I assume they sell them for 9k a pair that they no longer have to support retail pricing - bring the savings direct to the customer.

so the special prices are 6k or less?

No, $10k “special”.

**mdp632** · July 2, 2020, 07:47 AM

High margin and low quality product.

With an added dose of hyperbolic claims from the manufacture .

The Emotiva of "high end" audio.

Makes sense why they went direct only.

**Mechnutt** · July 2, 2020, 12:00 PM

Why would anyone want to buy their BHK gear. Over the past year there have been quite a lot used BHK gear for sale on Audiogon and similar sites. I deleted the email as soon as I saw it.

**Spock** · July 2, 2020, 03:30 PM

In my opinion it was just some bad marketing !

**Mike Lavigne** · July 2, 2020, 04:12 PM

Originally Posted by TheGemState

If does not say secret. It says private which is likely everyone on their mailing list. Seems like people are making a mountain out of a mole hill.

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Mike is one of the good guys. i'd happily buy from him.

but if you step back and see this for what it is.....this is a brick and mortar hifi business complaining about some direct marketing from a brand that just switched to direct selling from brick and mortar. understandable feelings from Mike.

the direct marketing is not the most forthright, but it also does not cross any lines....even for the hifi business. just trying to engage customers during a slow time when customers are scarce.

as a GM of a franchised new car dealership, i deal with this concept every single day. it's normal, and i don't like it aimed at my customers either.

**Randy Myers** · July 2, 2020, 04:51 PM

I did not say that the e-mail crossed any lines, in my view. I did however say, also in my view, that it was dis-ingenuous and an insult to me. It skirted the line on honesty and did nothing but make me far less liking to consider their products.

And before anyone states that I would never buy their products anyway I would state that I have purchased their amplifiers, both stereo and mono blocks not that long ago. I also very recently was considering their phono stage and when I purchased my T+A DAC I was seriously considering a PS Audio DAC. I believe it ended up being my second choice.

**still-one** · July 2, 2020, 04:57 PM

This seems to be Much Ado About Nothing.

**CPP** · July 2, 2020, 08:05 PM

Originally Posted by still-one

This seems to be Much Ado About Nothing.

I got the email, opened it, checked the prices and deleted the email.

**bzr** · July 3, 2020, 05:27 AM

I am very surprised to read this thread & it's content on here...

**Projectman** · July 3, 2020, 09:29 AM

Originally Posted by still-one

This seems to be Much Ado About Nothing.

+1

**Hear Here** · July 3, 2020, 11:27 AM

Somehow my name found its way onto you-know-who’s mailing list (possibly after a complaint about some over-priced and poorly-working power device I tried decades ago) but I get really annoyed at the bucket loads of bs their newsletters spew out.

In particular, wonderful offers to hugely improve the sound quality of your just-purchased device that was praised as the world’s best just 6 months before by a costly upgrade is what I dislike about you-know-who’s unconvincing marketing mumbo jumbo. Trouble is, there are too many hi-fi buyers who are gullible to this nonsense, believe what they read and part with their hard-earned cash.

**sonata** · July 3, 2020, 11:48 AM

Originally Posted by Mike Lavigne

Mike is one of the good guys. i'd happily buy from him.

but if you step back and see this for what it is.....this is a brick and mortar hifi business complaining about some direct marketing from a brand that just switched to direct selling from brick and mortar. understandable feelings from Mike.

the direct marketing is not the most forthright, but it also does not cross any lines....even for the hifi business. just trying to engage customers during a slow time when customers are scarce.

as a GM of a franchised new car dealership, i deal with this concept every single day. it's normal, and i don't like it aimed at my customers either.

Absolutely.

Further, no one should have been "fooled" by the private sale aspect of this. It is what it is. Nothing more.

**Mike B.** · July 6, 2020, 01:52 PM

Just appears to be a sales pitch form a direct sales manufacture. I guess if you log on and can buy it makes you think your special since it is a insider sale

**XV-1** · July 7, 2020, 09:03 AM

Originally Posted by Mike

No, $10k “special”.

LOL ROFL. How is that price " special" That seems more expensive than the direct manufacturer pricing should be.

Am I missing something, or didn't PS Audio reduce prices after that dumped all retailers and the margins that retailers must make to go factory direct?

**CPP** · July 7, 2020, 06:50 PM

Originally Posted by XV-1

LOL ROFL. How is that price " special" That seems more expensive than the direct manufacturer pricing should be.

Am I missing something, or didn't PS Audio reduce prices after that dumped all retailers and the margins that retailers must make to go factory direct?

its really this
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**GreginNH** · July 8, 2020, 07:41 AM

The BHK pre-amp was one of the biggest pieces of junk I have ever owned. It would make random loud popping sounds and was returned.

**brodricj** · July 9, 2020, 05:50 PM

Originally Posted by Mike

No, $10k “special”.

Considering they used to direct sell their $15K PS gizmo to me for $7.5K, $10K isn't so "special".

**brodricj** · July 9, 2020, 05:55 PM

Originally Posted by GreginNH

The BHK pre-amp was one of the biggest pieces of junk I have ever owned. It would make random loud popping sounds and was returned.

The PS Superfan disciples would be baying for your blood if they read that, despite what you say being the truth.

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