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    Let's say disaster strikes...

    ...and you lose everything you own and you have to start over in a small apartment. When your back on your feet, do you buy a small inexpensive system or go with the higher bang for buck headphone system?

    And no, this didn't happen to me...yet. Just was thinking about it and it's a tough call for me as there's something about speaker listening I simply prefer to headphones.
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    Re: Let's say disaster strikes...

    I guess it all depends on how much the insurance settlement was

    I would also have to add, how big is the room, would you be in an appt.

    If it was me, I would buy a small speaker when those times for turning it up are ok and a decent pair of headphones for those nights where you just can't turn up. All while still enjoying the music.
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    Re: Let's say disaster strikes...

    I am not a headphone guy either and prefer speakers. Could I "downsize"? Sure. I could pick a smaller system/speakers and be just as happy.
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    Re: Let's say disaster strikes...

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    Re: Let's say disaster strikes...

    I would go with a small speaker system too. Not a headphone guy either.
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    Re: Let's say disaster strikes...

    I'd give up the hobby if headphones were the only option.
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    Re: Let's say disaster strikes...

    Quote Originally Posted by still-one View Post
    I'd give up the hobby if headphones were the only option.

    I have heard some great Headphones but I do not think I have ever worn a pair for over 30 min. So I agree with you
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    Re: Let's say disaster strikes...

    I'm also not a headphone guy. Small Maggies or KEF, nice integrated and small Lampi DAC and voila, done.

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    Re: Let's say disaster strikes...

    Both.

    A compact system for regular daylight-hour listening, and a pair of headphones for nighttime/early morning listening sessions.

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    Re: Let's say disaster strikes...

    I have an old Sony Walkman some where.

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    Headphones: Senn HD800 + Cardas litz + Auralic Gemini 2000 + Plex transformer to boost it up - Shunyata Hydra + Venom power cables.

    Happy with either setup, but when I can I do prefer my main system.


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    Re: Let's say disaster strikes...

    I agree with you guys, but it's not as much a no brainer for me. I've heard some incredible headphone systems and they crush a similarly priced bookshelf rig in terms of absolute sound quality. Spend $2k on a headphone rig and you're near world class. Not even close with a speaker system regardless of how carefully selected the components.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jaxwired View Post
    I agree with you guys, but it's not as much a no brainer for me. I've heard some incredible headphone systems and they crush a similarly priced bookshelf rig in terms of absolute sound quality. Spend $2k on a headphone rig and you're near world class. Not even close with a speaker system regardless of how carefully selected the components.
    Agree, with that statement. Depending on the situation a HP system can be quite useful. I built mine when I had a second apartment for work in another country, where I had to spend some time.

    What I described above is about 5K.
    “Life’s too short to listen to bad audio.”

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    Re: Let's say disaster strikes...

    Woo Audio 234 Monos, then the speakers








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    Re: Let's say disaster strikes...

    If that happens to me I will invest the money on something else. Like a house / condominium and stick with my iPhone with MP3 Let's say disaster strikes...


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    Quote Originally Posted by bzr View Post
    Woo Audio 234 Monos, then the speakers







    If that's not hi-end porn, I don't know what is.

    They do look very nice, but for that money there needs to be more versatility and ability to play any kind of music (see Tone Audio).
    “Life’s too short to listen to bad audio.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul View Post
    If that happens to me I will invest the money on something else. Like a house / condominium and stick with my iPhone with MP3 Let's say disaster strikes...


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    Oh, forgot on the original topic...

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    Small rig: Naim UnitiServe/ Curious USB/ Tidal/ Linn Klimax DS3/ Shunyata Power cable/ Pass Labs INT-60/ Acoustic Zen Silver Reference II/ HiD Diamond 8/ Harbeth 30.2 40th Anniversary/ Shunyata Venom EU7 & Venom 3 HD.

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    Re: Let's say disaster strikes...

    I am with everyone else. I have a nice headphone setup, but cannot get past 30min of listening time. Moving to the Japan from the states I was really close to purchasing a Sen HD 800/Woo setup and leave my system in storage. I am so glad I did not. I would not have been happy and would lost interest in listening to music.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Harris4crna View Post
    I am with everyone else. I have a nice headphone setup, but cannot get past 30min of listening time. Moving to the Japan from the states I was really close to purchasing a Sen HD 800/Woo setup and leave my system in storage. I am so glad I did not. I would not have been happy and would lost interest in listening to music.


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    Let's say disaster strikes... - Not saying I don't enjoy a big system, more like that a good HP setup can also be nice. Right now I am enjoying Suites Espagnolas through a 100K vinyl based system, and yes, you do not get the same kicks over headphones.

    And I do feel the same about the fact, that listening to headphones is kind of tiring and tends to be limited to much shorter sessions.

    But, as I do not have to choose, I am having both or more accurately all of them. When I was forced to spend a lots of time abroad, spending the nights in an urban rental apartment, I did use my HP set quite a bit. Currently it is not even connected - Suites Espagnolas.

    PS: A good HP system can be very nice though for e.g. comparison of formats, such as CD/ DSD/ vinyl.
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    I would wait and see what Joe is selling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BruceLet View Post
    I would wait and see what Joe is selling.
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    Re: Let's say disaster strikes...

    Haha haha hahahahahaha
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    I compared a kef ls50 to a audeze lcd3(I own both) kef wins everyday

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    Quote Originally Posted by jaxwired View Post
    I agree with you guys, but it's not as much a no brainer for me. I've heard some incredible headphone systems and they crush a similarly priced bookshelf rig in terms of absolute sound quality. Spend $2k on a headphone rig and you're near world class. Not even close with a speaker system regardless of how carefully selected the components.

    I definitely agree with having a well thought out Headphone based audio system when you are confined to an apartment with very , very poor sound insulation from your neighbors units.

    I was a Big Rig type but I am now a Computer Audio based owner. Happy too ! Very.

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    Welcome to the forum, thank you for joining!
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    Thank You Kindly for your warm Welcome !

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    I'm insured all around. I wouldn't buy anything until I'd finished rebuilding my house. I would have far too much to think about and do. Once I was settled in I would probably purchase much of what I currently have again. I actually kind of liked my stereo. I may consider a 300b style amp and single driver direct coupled speaker, but then again I have all the parts to build the speaker now so I'm already gravitating that way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kingrex View Post
    I'm insured all around. I wouldn't buy anything until I'd finished rebuilding my house. I would have far too much to think about and do. Once I was settled in I would probably purchase much of what I currently have again. I actually kind of liked my stereo. I may consider a 300b style amp and single driver direct coupled speaker, but then again I have all the parts to build the speaker now so I'm already gravitating that way.

    Well I was in Hurricane Mathew and had friends that had their homes flooded and lost everything under 2 feet on the walls. A close friend lost his Focal Utopias and his Naim amps. Insurance, unless you have a special rider on your gear and each item is itemized, pictures serial numbers you are out of luck.

    Me, rebuild first and worry about audio later on. Ya got to have you're prioritizes and family 1st not audio gear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FlexibleAudio View Post
    I have an old Sony Walkman some where.
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    Insurance is an unhealthy topic to discuss. Hopefully I never need it. Everything I have is new so I have all the receipts. Jewelry and guns all have serial numbers or appraisals.

    I just switched to a new company and I was told if I did not have the earthquake insurance and there was an earthquake event. Say that even caused my neighbors house to burn. That fire propagates to my house, without earthquake insurance, they would say I had no coverage as the fire was part of an earthquake event. So yes, you have to be careful on what you purchase and what coverage you are actually getting.

    I also have a 4 million umbrella, just to be safe. Never know if a fire in my kitchen burns the neighbors house and I get sued.
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