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August 31, 2021, 07:35 PM #501
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Maybe the small amps are the giant killers since most high end power amps are enormously large? Just speculating.
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August 31, 2021, 07:44 PM #502
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In my room, the 30w of pure and sweet triode power is more than enough to drive the speakers that are appropriate for the room size/volume and my listening levels. There is a right tool for every job.
Of course we live in the land where everything has to be big and excessive, it’s in our culture.
Repeating that amps need lots of overhead, like another 300-500w above and beyond the 4-5w where they are cruising along filling the room with sound, also goes a long way towards leading to “monster amp” envy on forums.
Filling a large room with sound, while recreating near realistic concert levels with speakers that drop to under 2 ohms, well, that really does require serious power, no doubt. Different horses for different courses.
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August 31, 2021, 09:31 PM #503
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No serge at or below 4 ohm its current thats required and yes 30 watts unless used judiciously is clip city on anything less than 97db /W/M
BTW, do you recall how you compared your amps
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August 31, 2021, 09:36 PM #504
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August 31, 2021, 09:41 PM #505
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August 31, 2021, 09:47 PM #506
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August 31, 2021, 09:50 PM #507
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Back to Jay’s Audio Journey thread before we derail it…
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August 31, 2021, 10:17 PM #510
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I've received several messages and it looks like we might be getting some amps sent in. Stay tuned for more
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August 31, 2021, 10:24 PM #511
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the freight costs for ampzillas must be massive
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August 31, 2021, 10:32 PM #512
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August 31, 2021, 10:37 PM #513
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i think these would fire the xlf s quiet well.
shipping forth and back, huuu in europe that would cost a 1000 dollars
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August 31, 2021, 11:49 PM #514
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September 1, 2021, 12:22 AM #515
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Bud
Lumin X1 file player, Westminster Labs interconnect cable
Sony XA-5400ES SACD
Pass XP-22 pre, X600.5 amps
Magico S5 MKII Mcast Rose speakers, SPOD spikes
Shunyata Triton v3/Typhon QR for source, Denali 2000 (2) for amps
Shunyata Sigma XLR analog ICs, Sigma speaker cables
Shunyata Sigma HC (2), Sigma Analog, Sigma Digital, Z Anaconda (3) power cables
Mapleshade Samson four shelf maple rack, Micropoint brass footers
Three 20 amp circuits.
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September 1, 2021, 08:27 AM #516
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This Friday i will be over at Suncoast audio and i will be filming FROM THERE, my top, middle and bottom tier amplifier groups. Some of these amps are amps that Mike has on the floor and they won’t make the top list. This will be done to show everyone that i can come into a dealer’s showroom and STILL give you all my opinion in front of the dealer himself.
Mike has agreed to let me tell it like it is even if it means that i won’t be praising all his amplifier lines as being the best of the best. This video will be awesome 😎
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September 1, 2021, 09:30 AM #517
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Mike carry’s all your best of best lines , nothing much there for you not to praise ..!
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September 1, 2021, 09:31 AM #518
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September 1, 2021, 10:21 AM #519
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September 1, 2021, 11:02 AM #520
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September 1, 2021, 12:24 PM #522
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yesteryears cruelty
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September 1, 2021, 01:13 PM #523
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they really are quite diminutive for SS monoblocks as large heat sinks are built into the chassis. around 50lbs/each.
http://hifimansion.com/wp-content/up...a2000_2012.pdf
"To those who find it impossible to believe components priced as reasonably as these can possibly be as good as those costing a whole lot more, I say only, “They are. Please
audition with your mind as open as your ears.” If I were closing up shop tomorrow as a reviewer, I would buy them and live happily ever after."
I'm not saying they are the best amps in the world and don't really know what a "giant-killer" is but they sound quite natural and un-SS like with tremendous bass/dynamics that typically are weakness of tubed designs. The issue is the designer passed, now owned by Wyred4Sound but still made in California. The more people I talk to in the industry, the more I find own old GAS amps and never let them go because of their extreme musicality.
I purchased the Zillas as "base amps" to get going with YG and never sold them. Take that for what you will although YG power requirements for "effortless" necessitated monoblocks ime with the exception of the Rowland which was a really nice amp that some preferred. I expect the Ampzilla to be supplanted on the more efficient Fyne F1s but TBD - both SIT-3 and XA25 didn't do that recently. Have a feeling Dart 108 will - which of course was a $35k stereo amp before the mk2 released.
Anyways, as far as Jay's shoot out not sure I care to be without them for a month. Maybe he can convince me. I think most would rather see a pair of Benchmarks (which sound sterile and everyone punts after buying them) go up against his fleet. And he's owned Bel Canto black in digital land already.Brinkmann Bardo w/ EMT HSD-006 cart, MSB Reference DAC --> Linear Tube Audio MicroZOTL --> Ampzilla 2000, 2nd Edition --> Fyne Audio F1-12
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September 1, 2021, 01:44 PM #524
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I'm looking forward to this next chapter. My doors are open to new affordable components until the end of September. More to come soon.
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September 1, 2021, 05:14 PM #525
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Define affordable, Universal income will only go so far ... !
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September 1, 2021, 06:37 PM #526
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September is the back to school, budget month... Move over Boulder, Benchmark amp will take over... Just as an experiment, don't get too comfortable LOL
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Jay visits Suncoast audio and here’s a sneak peek at the upcoming video
Preview: Jay gives his top amplifiers list at Suncoast Audio! - YouTube
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September 3, 2021, 09:25 PM #528
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Enjoy this quick video. The full video will be released in 3 parts.
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September 5, 2021, 03:18 PM #529
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And so we begin to ascend to the top.
Here is a video from today. I highly recommend headphones because the second track will rattle your brain. Listen to the control and the room pressurizing on this track.
I hope you all enjoy this one!
Strap on your seatbelts.. here's a taste of what's coming - YouTube
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And so we begin to ascend to the top.
Here is a video from today. I highly recommend headphones because the second track will rattle your brain. Listen to the control and the room pressurizing on this track.
I hope you all enjoy this one!
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September 6, 2021, 09:37 AM #532
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Part 1 of 3:
Jay and Mike go over the Top Tier Amplifier list:
Part 1: Jay's top tier amplifier list - YouTube
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September 6, 2021, 10:00 AM #533
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September 6, 2021, 12:26 PM #534
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No SS McIntosh on this list ..??
BTW thanks for the headphones tip Jay , that track gets pretty sleepy , i wish you would play something familiar one day , like with real acoustic instruments , you know with very taxing micro /macro dynamics, mix it up a bit with your current selection ...!
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September 6, 2021, 12:46 PM #535
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You wish i played that, then John wants me to play the other, and Maria, Julio, Carlos and Joshua want something else... can't please everybody so you will have to do the best you can with what i provide unfortunately.
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September 7, 2021, 09:26 AM #536
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You all wanted to see this on my channel,
Here you go: Reference level tube monoblocks for the first time in my room:
Introducing: New Tube Monoblocks - YouTube
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September 7, 2021, 01:35 PM #537
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September 8, 2021, 09:41 AM #538
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Today, during part 2 of a 3 part video series i will go over the "mid fi" brands. What will these brands be? There will be shockwaves and also an interesting comment about a brand which i have been told did not want his new amps to be reviewed by me. Which one will it be?
You will find out today at 1030 am ET.
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September 8, 2021, 10:52 AM #539
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My youtube channel: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL...1wNOTpMvfFvzgb
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September 8, 2021, 01:15 PM #540
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Dont hold back Jay , give us everything ...!
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Lol. That's what I have been trying to do
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September 8, 2021, 02:30 PM #542
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This is more like “Entertainment for the masses” than anything I can learn from
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September 8, 2021, 02:40 PM #543
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That's perfect.
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September 8, 2021, 03:20 PM #544
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it is great entertainement.
you two guys sitting there and talking amplifier is truly my favorite program these days.
i hope in part 3 mike gets the chance to defend pass.
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September 8, 2021, 03:32 PM #545
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It's coming during next video...I'm glad some of you enjoy this content.
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September 8, 2021, 03:44 PM #547
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beeing the editor is a powerful tool
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September 8, 2021, 11:34 PM #548
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I don't know what amp It is but It's the best I heard your room sound yet... Maybe it's the song (first time you use that song I believe) but it sounds alive and un-mechanical... really musical!
Audiophile on paper, poor bastard in reality...
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September 8, 2021, 11:53 PM #549
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I just watched part 1 and 2 back to back and I don't really see the point of having Mike on If you don't let him talk... Otherwise it's just like your other videos at home...
When you have guest on, you let your guest talk...
As Blanche would say: "You're from the south honey It's just good manners!"
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September 10, 2021, 12:28 PM #550
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i will be revealing what tube amp i bought shortly. Video will drop soon.
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Thank you for making me feel less tech challenged.:whew: FYI, The 866 works great as a straight, no nonsense integrated with DAC.
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