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    Re: Jay's Audio Journey

    Quote Originally Posted by Bobvin View Post
    WOW Jay, those speakers should bring you much musical enjoyment. Would be nice to hear, after you've had the Wilsons in-place for a time, how you summarize the pros and cons vs. the M6. Final distination speaker, or is this just a pit-stop?
    Final Destination?! Good one!

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    Re: Jay's Audio Journey

    Congrats Jay! The XLFs are tremendous speakers. Super easy to drive. Should be an outstanding reference for component evaluations.
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    I’m enjoying the ride, enjoy your new speakers and looking forward to more component reviews.


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    Congrats on the XLFs Jay!

    Now all you need the orange Lamborghini to match it :-)

    Enjoy in good health.

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    thanks!
    i never thought i would like anything orange, but when you see the speaker in person and under the lights, your entire perspective changes. These suckers have grown on me but i can't properly set them up until vicoustics comes to pick up all these damn panels they sent me in the wrong color...
    By the way, many are asking me on the youtube comment section if the xlf is better than the m6 and i can not answer that because i have only owned the xlf for a week. I need to live with it before i can begin to compare to the m6.
    Part of the reason why i brought the xlf was to find out if it is better or worse than the Alexx i had in here. I believe stereophile said the Alexx was better than the XLF, but i 200% disagree with this. The Alexx is harder to drive, the bass was never quite right (in my room of course) and it did not do the crazy imaging the XLF does. Also, based on the in-room measurements from John Atkinsons, the XLF measured better in Michael's room than the Alexx. John also preferred the fullness of the XLF to the Alexx.

    To be quite honest, and yes i know i have not heard every single speaker, i can not think of a speaker that can beat the XLF when you factor-in the money it can be had for now that it has been discontinued. Trust me i looked at ALL OPTIONS and NOTHING gave me the feeling that it could beat the XLF for the money. Will i ever bring the Alexx V ?
    I plan to at some point, but i am quite scared to be honest because the scale of this speaker has me possessed.
    Word on the street is that the XLF was retired because Focal was not going to sell Wilson more woofers so Wilson had to pull the plug on it. Wilson has enough replacement drivers, but Focal decided to not continue to support their needs with new XLFs.

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    Congrats on your speaker choice. XLFs certainly are very good speakers with ultra clarity, great dynamics and pinpoint imaging when set up properly. Enjoy!
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    Re: Jay's Audio Journey

    Here is an overview of the Wilson Audio XLF which has not been done on youtube before.
    I hope you enjoy!

    Wilson Audio XLF Overview! - YouTube

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    Fascinating speaker. I really enjoyed the video.

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    Re: Jay's Audio Journey

    Thank you

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    Re: Jay's Audio Journey

    Gryphon Essence stereo amp & Wilson Audio Alexandria XLF playing a song that has been on my channel since the beginning of time:

    Wilson Audio XLF & Gryphon Essence! - YouTube

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    26 responses and no one mentioned who is singing - lol??
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    Just listened to the Nils piece on Jay’s system. I’m not a fan of making judgment calls on recordings played via YouTube on a portable device but I must admit, the XLFs appear to be working very well in his room.
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    Re: Jay's Audio Journey

    Does that mean Jay has finally found the 'special ones' or will the journey resume normal business?

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    Re: Jay's Audio Journey

    Yea ,

    I can see that Jay video, audio journey is now over and this will be his last video and speakers ..






    Regards

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    Re: Jay's Audio Journey

    Video i just shot a few minutes ago. A few changes have occurred. Watch the caption to know what i did Wilson Audio Alexandria XLF and a few changes - Enjoy! - YouTube

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    Video i just shot a few minutes ago. A few changes have occurred. Watch the caption to know what i did Wilson Audio Alexandria XLF and a few changes - Enjoy! - YouTube

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    Re: Jay's Audio Journey

    I suggest that you all watch the video a few hours later. Yes , i got confirmation that the sound will keep improving about an hour or two after because YouTube "stabilizes" the video during this time.

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    Re: Jay's Audio Journey

    13 things that need to be understood by everybody for our upcoming DCS versus MSB DAC shootout:


    DCS versus MSB comparison: Here are a few things to know - YouTube
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    Re: Jay's Audio Journey

    Quote Originally Posted by Lightfoot View Post
    Does that mean Jay has finally found the 'special ones' or will the journey resume normal business?
    I don’t think your two points are mutually exclusive.

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    Congrats Jay, thanks for sharing & letting us all into your room. Just remember, every single person on here at one stage in time did not even know what the difference was between positive & negative. Some still don't...

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    Re: Jay's Audio Journey

    Leading contender for Thread of the Year IMO. Bravo Jay.

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    Re: Jay's Audio Journey

    Thanks for the last posts. It's hard to do what i do with gear of this caliber. You got the fan boys of affordable audio walking around with machetes looking to chop my head off and then you got the fan boys of particular name brands that get angry and take high blood pressure medication for as long as I am owning a product they hate but once i have a product they love then they cancel their medication refill.
    It's the nature of doing social media. Not much that one man (me in this case) can do about it.

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    Re: Jay's Audio Journey

    That's precisely what makes it so entertaining, all the elements on an audiophile drama. While you're having fun!
    Enjoy yourself.

    cheers,

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    Re: Jay's Audio Journey

    The truth is I am probably never going to meet in person most people who post or live on forums. If anything, it will be a lot of my YouTube followers who know about me because of YouTube and not forums.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jay's Audio Lab View Post
    You got the fan boys of affordable audio walking around with machetes looking to chop my head off..
    Andrew Robinson’s. Jay's Audio Journey

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    I don't know why 😂.

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    Re: Jay's Audio Journey

    Quote Originally Posted by Jay's Audio Lab View Post
    Thanks for the last posts. It's hard to do what i do with gear of this caliber. You got the fan boys of affordable audio walking around with machetes looking to chop my head off and then you got the fan boys of particular name brands that get angry and take high blood pressure medication for as long as I am owning a product they hate but once i have a product they love then they cancel their medication refill.
    It's the nature of doing social media. Not much that one man (me in this case) can do about it.
    Just keep being yourself. A lot of us are not in either of those camps, we really enjoy following your journey. Personally, I love your live chats and getting your off the cuff comments... You can be pretty funny sometimes!

    Thanks for what you do.

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    Thanks man. Greatly appreciated

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jay's Audio Lab View Post
    Thanks for the last posts. It's hard to do what i do with gear of this caliber. You got the fan boys of affordable audio walking around with machetes looking to chop my head off and then you got the fan boys of particular name brands that get angry and take high blood pressure medication for as long as I am owning a product they hate but once i have a product they love then they cancel their medication refill.
    It's the nature of doing social media. Not much that one man (me in this case) can do about it.
    "What do you care what people think?" – book title by Richard Feynman, Nobel prize-winning theoretical physicist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Puma Cat View Post
    "What do you care what people think?" – book title by Richard Feynman, Nobel prize-winning theoretical physicist.
    Now there is an iconoclastic type fellow the world seems shy of these days. First of his books I read “Surely your joking Mr. Feynman” I couldn’t put down. He’d probably be cancelled today for one reason or another.
    —Bob V.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobvin View Post
    Now there is an iconoclastic type fellow the world seems shy of these days. First of his books I read “Surely your joking Mr. Feynman” I couldn’t put down. He’d probably be cancelled today for one reason or another.
    Yep, he was a real character, to be sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kzhtoo View Post
    Andrew Robinson’s. Jay's Audio Journey
    I like Andrew Robinson!

    He doesn't whine, he doesn't bitch, he doesn't pretend to be this or that, he does his own thing which is mostly TVs and soundbars and what would be considered mid-fi here but he does it well and his videos always looks mighty good and very professional and he always ends up saying that the only opinion that matters in the end is our own... That makes sense to me with no machettes in sight.

    I personally find there is place for Andrew Robinson just like there is place for Jay...
    Audiophile on paper, poor bastard in reality...

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    Quote Originally Posted by SimpleSimonSays View Post
    I like Andrew Robinson!

    He doesn't whine, he doesn't bitch, he doesn't pretend to be this or that, he does his own thing which is mostly TVs and soundbars and what would be considered mid-fi here but he does it well and his videos always looks mighty good and very professional and he always ends up saying that the only opinion that matters in the end is our own... That makes sense to me with no machettes in sight.

    I personally find there is place for Andrew Robinson just like there is place for Jay...
    In order to respect Jay, I should not post links to other YT. See PM.

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    Re: Jay's Audio Journey

    Find out what the component list will be for this upcoming shootout of
    DCS versus MSB:

    DCS VERSUS MSB: Component list prior to the shootout - YouTube

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    Wow! Someone suggests to do the shootout on PSAudio's Infinity IRS speakers. Big mistake!
    I had the privilege to visit PS Audio. Paul is a fantastic guy, and he is authentically interested and welcoming as he is in his videos. I also think they make very good products with great bang for the buck. And I am a great fan of Infinity. In the eighties that was the benchmark! I was so excited to hear that legendary IRS. But then: big disappointment. Old style sound. But it is lacking the detail and dynamics from newer speakers. The friendly guy who've the tour told me that I probably have together used to the different curve. Right.
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    So i finished shooting the msb dac yesterday and brought the DCS back from the dead after like 2 months i think since i last heard it?
    Interesting contrast between both dacs. I think BOTH do things so differently and uniquely. Both have strengths and weaknesses.
    i am hoping the first video of this shootout will go live tomorrow morning.
    As i mentioned, please vote on the poll. It takes you longer to type a comment than to vote. Dont be lazy.
    Let’s find out for ourselves how the entire world or how we all feel globally speaking about both dacs without knowing what is playing. This is one of those shootouts that we dont ever get to see ANYWHERE so let’s have some fun guys. Let’s see WHERE each one of us sits with regards to both presentations. Let's have healthy discussions about them and understand what each dac brings to the table.
    I want this shootout to be FUN and hopefully something that can also be helpful for your future buying decisions.
    I am doing all the legwork here so all i ask of you is to keep the comments, feedback, etc about what you are hearing. Also, make sure you remember that when the first video rolls out tomorrow, you will get a feeling of how things sound with a certain type of music. You might change the way you feel when the second video rolls out because the second video will probably have female vocals only so remember to keep your mind open because the first video might not be everything you need to hear to form your decision. You should listen to all 3 of them before you know exactly which presentation is checking all your boxes.

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    Re: Jay's Audio Journey

    Here is the format for the shootout:

    Video 1 (releasing tomorrow)
    Demonstration 1 (2 songs) (DAC # 1)
    Demonstration 2 (same 2 songs) (DAC # 2)

    Video 2
    Demonstration 1 (2 songs) (DAC # 1)
    Demonstration 2 (same 2 songs) (DAC # 2)

    Video 3
    Demonstration 1 (2 songs) (DAC # 1)
    Demonstration 2 (same 2 songs) (DAC # 2)

    *Dac #1 & # 2 are the same dacs playing through the videos so for example if dac # 1 is dcs then dac #1 will always be dcs throughout all 3 videos.

    How should you vote?
    Easy as this:
    i will pretend that this was my personal favorites:

    Video 1
    I chose demonstration 1

    Video 2
    I chose demonstration 2

    Video 3
    I chose demonstration 1

    i essentially have selected one dac as my favorite (demonstration 1). This means that my final vote should be demonstration 1 because i preferred it on 2 out of 3 videos. does this make sense?

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    Re: Jay's Audio Journey

    Alright, here we go!
    The time is finally here: MSB versus DCS for the first time ever, under a controlled environment, and on YouTube. Make sure you are part of this tomorrow morning at 10am ET!



    MSB Reference versus DCS Rossini: Round 1 - YouTube

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    Alright, here we go!
    The time is finally here: MSB versus DCS for the first time ever, under a controlled environment, and on YouTube. Make sure you are part of this tomorrow morning at 10am ET!
    Click on the link below and then hit the "set reminder" on the video page.



    MSB Reference versus DCS Rossini: Round 1 - YouTube

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    It would be very informative if you would specify the tracks
    you are using for the shoutout.

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    Did you not read the description of the video...it's all there

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobvin View Post
    Well, I've been there to hear the M9s and the Pilium amplification.

    Seeing you standing next to those Magico's really puts their size into perspective. They're massive! Then again, so is their price tag.
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    Re: Jay's Audio Journey

    Comparing digital equipment is not easy in my opinion, especially if you have to disconnect the powercords. in my expericence it can take days before the performance of my Rossini stabilises after being disconnected. So my question to Jay is, do you disconnect the digital equipment between the gear changes ?
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    Re: Jay's Audio Journey

    Guys
    I went over the specifics on how this shootout was going to take place. I put out one video covering this particular topic.

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    Re: Jay's Audio Journey

    last video of this dac comparison:


    MSB versus DCS: Final Round - YouTube

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    Re: Jay's Audio Journey

    keeping it real with regards to dacs:

    DACs: Here's the truth that nobody tells you! - YouTube

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    Jay's Audio Journey

    Many folks (me included) believe that even though everything matters, not everything matters the same.

    If I understand correctly, your conclusions on the two expensive DACs you just reviewed is that the difference in the sound is not such that merits spending $100k on a DAC.

    Kudos to you for willing to say so. The majority of folks who spend $100k on a DAC will be praising it to heaven claiming to hear all kind of stuff that no other DAC can do. These owners certainly do not want to look foolish for spending that kind of money on just a DAC.

    Since you run the lab, just for sake of experimenting, instead of trying out an even more expensive DAC, go the opposite way and try out a relatively inexpensive DAC (say, a DAC that retails for less than $10k).

    You may discover that in the world of diminishing returns the relatively inexpensive DAC can give you at least 98% of what you heard with the expensive DACs.

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