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    Re: Jay's Audio Journey

    If Jay's Journey were a movie, what would it be? Field of Dreams? Rocky? Apocolypse Now? (We are gradually floating deeper in to the jungle)
    BTW, I'm guessing Rockport Lyra.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ricky64 View Post
    If Jay's Journey were a movie, what would it be? Field of Dreams? Rocky? Apocolypse Now? (We are gradually floating deeper in to the jungle)
    BTW, I'm guessing Rockport Cygnus.
    Ha,

    Wait for When Jay steps into high gear “Natural Sound “ is next ....!



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    Quote Originally Posted by Jay's Audio Lab View Post
    And that's something i just won't embark on. I want to do more treatment but I'm not going to do ridiculous things to my room. I'm no factory lab room or the audio chamber in Canada (whatever that is called)
    Hi Jay,

    Just wanted to say thanks for all your videos and information. You're in a unique position to procure and demo so much high end equipment that I and others wish we were in.

    If I can comment WRT room treatment - At the level you're at you are leaving significant performance on the table without ample and proper room treatment. As good as your system sounds there's another level waiting to be uncovered. Just food for thought.
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    A nicely treated room need not look like an anechoic chamber or recording studio...
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    Re: Jay's Audio Journey

    here is a word about the new speaker:

    A word about the new speaker - YouTube

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    Re: Jay's Audio Journey

    Quote Originally Posted by Bobvin View Post
    A nicely treated room need not look like an anechoic chamber or recording studio...
    great looking room! i wish i had a backdrop like that!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jay's Audio Lab View Post
    here is a word about the new speaker:

    A word about the new speaker - YouTube
    congratulation!!
    glad you managed to calibrate the tweeters so fast and that they work so good in your room.
    thats not easy, i have a friend who struggled over weeks and did not get happy until he moved to a taller room.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jay's Audio Lab View Post
    here is a word about the new speaker:

    A word about the new speaker - YouTube

    After watching this. I'm now guessing it is the Focal flagship speaker. Grande Utopia EM.

    Final answer :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by mdp632 View Post
    After watching this. I'm now guessing it is the Focal flagship speaker. Grande Utopia EM.

    Final answer :-)
    i would bet anything against

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    Re: Jay's Audio Journey

    Vivid GAYA G1 Spirits

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    VSA Ultra 9
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    Re: Jay's Audio Journey

    I was thinking The Sonus Faber based on the comments in the video.




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    Re: Jay's Audio Journey

    everbody can project his own dreamspeaker there probably....truly funny to not know

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobvin View Post
    A nicely treated room need not look like an anechoic chamber or recording studio...
    Agreed, however your example leaves at least 2 surfaces almost completely untreated. Why spend so much $ on gear and inadequately manage what many argue is the most important piece of the sonic puzzle. The best systems sound the best in the best rooms.
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    Living Voice Vox Olympian is my guess
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    Quote Originally Posted by sb6 View Post
    Agreed, however your example leaves at least 2 surfaces almost completely untreated. Why spend so much $ on gear and inadequately manage what many argue is the most important piece of the sonic puzzle. The best systems sound the best in the best rooms.
    What surface is that? Are you sure about that?

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    Re: Jay's Audio Journey

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    I was thinking The Sonus Faber based on the comments in the video.




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    The Fenice are tremendous sounding speakers!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobvin View Post
    A nicely treated room need not look like an anechoic chamber or recording studio...
    Great point...a good number of people seem (IMHO) to over treat their rooms with absorbers, diffusors, resonators, etc...

    The thing I have not understood (and it may be my lack of knowledge) is that you'll see a system and a speaker in a room,
    there will be many room treatments on the wall and then a big speaker upgrade will occur and yet the speaker is brought
    into the room with the treatments remaining in the same places of the same types, numbers of them, etc...

    It's true there are certain aspects of a room that need treating but I tend to think that 90% of the treatments in the room are
    to treat the room in the context of the system playing in that room as of then, including the specific speaker's behavior in-room.

    If someone does a big upgrade (e.g. Alexia to Alexx V in Wilson terms or a cross-upgrade i.e. one speaker brand to another), it would seem
    that you should take all treatments down, install the new speaker, position it for best imaging, bass, mids, highs, etc...and then
    and only then, start experimenting with room treatment if any is needed for the new speaker and build up only what is needed.

    I've not been able to rationalize using the same room treatment treatment strategy from the prior setup after a major change in speakers/performance/playback personality.

    FWIW and only one man's opinion and all that.
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    Re: Jay's Audio Journey

    Quote Originally Posted by MPW View Post
    VSA Ultra 9
    I think this is the one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jay's Audio Lab View Post
    New speaker with stereo Gryphon Essence amplifier:

    Teaser 3: New Speaker - YouTube


    Same song with Magico M6 and Gryphon Essence monoblocks:
    Round 1: Pass labs X600.8 versus Gryphon Essence monoblocks - YouTube
    FYI: The channels are reversed on Teaser 3. That track should start with guitar in left channel like it does in the Round 1 link.

    Dre

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    Quote Originally Posted by SCAudiophile View Post
    Great point...a good number of people seem (IMHO) to over treat their rooms with absorbers, diffusors, resonators, etc...

    The thing I have not understood (and it may be my lack of knowledge) is that you'll see a system and a speaker in a room,
    there will be many room treatments on the wall and then a big speaker upgrade will occur and yet the speaker is brought
    into the room with the treatments remaining in the same places of the same types, numbers of them, etc...

    It's true there are certain aspects of a room that need treating but I tend to think that 90% of the treatments in the room are
    to treat the room in the context of the system playing in that room as of then, including the specific speaker's behavior in-room.

    If someone does a big upgrade (e.g. Alexia to Alexx V in Wilson terms or a cross-upgrade i.e. one speaker brand to another), it would seem that you should take all treatments down, install the new speaker, position it for best imaging, bass, mids, highs, etc...and then
    and only then, start experimenting with room treatment if any is needed for the new speaker and build up only what is needed.

    I've not been able to rationalize using the same room treatment treatment strategy from the prior setup after a major change in speakers/performance/playback personality.

    FWIW and only one man's opinion and all that.
    Room treatment can be broken into 2 purposes - low frequency management and all above determined by the Shroeder frequency. For low frequency and using your Wilson upgrade example and assuming the same expectations in terms of listening volume little would change in terms of treatment and its placement. For mid / higher frequencies also little would change unless the speaker / sweet spot placement was significantly different and given that both speakers are fundamentally the same in terms of design and driver topology, they would probably end up in very similar positions. My experience in my rooms and others I've set up agree with this philosophy via the results. Moving from mini monitors to Gryphon Kodos and things start to deviate more so, but the fundamentals stay the same.

    Net is - For low frequency in particular, the room doesn't care about your speaker type IF the low frequency drivers are at the same approximate placement as your previous model. Most rooms simply cannot reproduce very low frequencies adequately (high quality and linearly relative to adjacent frequencies) without subwoofers and / or EQ. Most rooms simply aren't large enough. So treatment is only part of a larger requirement to get high quality sound.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alpinist View Post
    Mike,

    The Fenice are tremendous sounding speakers!

    Ken
    The sound is so clear and open that I don't believe they are a Sonus Faber. I've had some (which I loved) and I'm a fan of the brand, or rather, of some models.
    By chance, I heard The Sonus Faber once, at the dealer, in an acoustically treated room, with Audio Research's top-of-the-line monoblocks, and it was the worst I've heard from the brand so far. Of course there were other audiophiles there who liked a lot but to my taste, the sound was loaded with coloration.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GSOphile View Post
    I think this is the one.
    Agree....+1 on this or secondly Focal Grande Utopia EM EVO
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    Re: Jay's Audio Journey

    jay described his new speakers VERY TALL with 92db.

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    Quote Originally Posted by u-sound View Post
    jay described his new speakers VERY TALL with 92db.
    That’s why I thought SF.


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    Re: Jay's Audio Journey

    and me the wilsons, applies to both the alexxV and xvx.

    jsut from hearing it is too difficult. one hears more his own system than the one on the screen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sb6 View Post
    Agreed, however your example leaves at least 2 surfaces almost completely untreated. Why spend so much $ on gear and inadequately manage what many argue is the most important piece of the sonic puzzle. The best systems sound the best in the best rooms.
    Well, I've been there to hear the M9s and the Pilium amplification.



    And your comments about "at least 2 untreated surfaces" is based on what? The fact there are glass windows and doors? Look at my signature, you'll see the acoustician who designed my room is Dr. Bonnie Schnitta of SoundSense. When she visited she said she has no problem working with one reflective surface, so that leaves the wall with glass, which you notice has curtains and those have SoundSense custom acoustic lining.

    When I walked into Alon's listening/showroom @ Magico, the first thing I noticed (and my traveling companion as well) was, "wow, this room feels and sounds a lot like my room". It was a great confirmation even though the Magico room is at least double the volume.

    You can read about my room build-out here: Starting Point - Bob's new room and Alexia's new home

    Around page 7 you'll start to see some pictures of the behind-the-scene treatment.

    Now back to Jay's thread.
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    If you’ve watched Jay’s videos over the last couple months up to the most recent one, you’ll have an excellent idea what speakers are in his listening room.

    Ken
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    Re: Jay's Audio Journey

    so, whats your take?

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    Well guys, i was going to drag it a few more days but i sense a bit of desperation so i am revealing the speaker tomorrow at 10am ET:
    Turn on your notifications!

    Here it is: Meet my new speaker - YouTube

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    Quote Originally Posted by u-sound View Post
    so, whats your take?
    Wait for it. It’s only until tomorrow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobvin View Post
    Well, I've been there to hear the M9s and the Pilium amplification.



    And your comments about "at least 2 untreated surfaces" is based on what? The fact there are glass windows and doors? Look at my signature, you'll see the acoustician who designed my room is Dr. Bonnie Schnitta of SoundSense. When she visited she said she has no problem working with one reflective surface, so that leaves the wall with glass, which you notice has curtains and those have SoundSense custom acoustic lining.

    When I walked into Alon's listening/showroom @ Magico, the first thing I noticed (and my traveling companion as well) was, "wow, this room feels and sounds a lot like my room". It was a great confirmation even though the Magico room is at least double the volume.

    You can read about my room build-out here: Starting Point - Bob's new room and Alexia's new home

    Around page 7 you'll start to see some pictures of the behind-the-scene treatment.

    Now back to Jay's thread.
    I click on the link and it took me to Paul’s McIntosh thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobvin View Post
    Well, I've been there to hear the M9s and the Pilium amplification.

    And your comments about "at least 2 untreated surfaces" is based on what? The fact there are glass windows and doors? Look at my signature, you'll see the acoustician who designed my room is Dr. Bonnie Schnitta of SoundSense. When she visited she said she has no problem working with one reflective surface, so that leaves the wall with glass, which you notice has curtains and those have SoundSense custom acoustic lining.

    When I walked into Alon's listening/showroom @ Magico, the first thing I noticed (and my traveling companion as well) was, "wow, this room feels and sounds a lot like my room". It was a great confirmation even though the Magico room is at least double the volume.

    You can read about my room build-out here: Starting Point - Bob's new room and Alexia's new home

    Around page 7 you'll start to see some pictures of the behind-the-scene treatment.

    Now back to Jay's thread.
    Since you responded, allow me to explain.

    Yes I saw the curtains over the windows, however via the picture your floor and ceiling don't appear to be treated. I didn't read your room thread details, however, congrats if you are happy. And if you believe your room, "Feels and sounds a lot like" the Magico room, awesome. And if you like the looks, even better.

    The net of it all is - room treatment matters. And the better your system the more you have to lose by not treating it properly. With the scratch and time you spent on your room, I'm sure you concur.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Alpinist View Post
    If you’ve watched Jay’s videos over the last couple months up to the most recent one, you’ll have an excellent idea what speakers are in his listening room.

    Ken
    If it’s just another Wilson that will be so boring as he’s owned half a dozen of them. XLF is fairly efficient but not the new stuff that drops down to 2 ohms.

    I like Mikes idea and their resale should be in the Jay zone. Have always wanted to hear the beasts.

    But the stack of crates in the latest video probably gives it away.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sb6 View Post
    Since you responded, allow me to explain.

    Yes I saw the curtains over the windows, however via the picture your floor and ceiling don't appear to be treated. I didn't read your room thread details, however, congrats if you are happy. And if you believe your room, "Feels and sounds a lot like" the Magico room, awesome. And if you like the looks, even better.

    The net of it all is - room treatment matters. And the better your system the more you have to lose by not treating it properly. With the scratch and time you spent on your room, I'm sure you concur.


    And now back to the regularly scheduled program - Jay's speaker reveal...
    Please forgive me Jay... your big reveal comes tomorrow so I thought it would be OK to derail just a tiny bit longer.

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    It will be very interesting to see how placing three new pairs of speakers (each very different from the “box” speaker design that is Wilson) sounds in the room. Since there wasn’t anything in particular done in the room related to the Wilsons, I don’t expect there will be any anomalies. Speaker placement is always crucial, so it will be a learning curve for sure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobvin View Post
    A nicely treated room need not look like an anechoic chamber or recording studio...
    I like the way Bob's room looks. It doesn't look like a lot of audio rooms that are so over treated that the room sucks the life out of the music.

    I personally want a room that has a little life in it. Just a touch of slap echo.
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    I will be on the "live chat" section of the video releasing today at 10am
    Talk to you all soon

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    time to know what it is...

    Here it is: Meet my new speaker - YouTube


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    I guess that M9 wasnt vaccinated

    Have to agree with Jay on the WA vs M6, with classical music its an even bigger spread ..


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    Quote Originally Posted by a.wayne View Post
    I guess that M9 wasnt vaccinated

    Have to agree with Jay on the WA vs M6, with classical music its an even bigger spread ..


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    funny that you mention that because somehow i ended up playing classical the other night and was like omg... "ok classical music, you got my attention now"...

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    funny that you mention that because somehow i ended up playing classical the other night and was like omg... "ok classical music, you got my attention now"...
    Yes, Classical sounds fantastic on all WA speakers. I just got Alexx and love it. Congrats on the XLF, Jay! Sounds like a real winner for your lab experiments!
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    Congrats Jay. Enjoy them in good health.


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    This really goes to show just how subjective this hobby is. I have only heard the XLF at shows, but never stayed long in the room. Every time I enter I say to myself, "maybe this will be the time!" and the result is always the same. I have not had the same experience with some of the smaller Wilsons. Much easier on my ears. Maybe it was just show conditions and I certainly don't doubt that Jay is loving what he is hearing. This is why there are so many choices in the marketplace. I own KEF Blades, which many are not a fan of acoustically and/or visually, but I really enjoy them. Different strokes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MPW View Post
    This really goes to show just how subjective this hobby is. I have only heard the XLF at shows, but never stayed long in the room. Every time I enter I say to myself, "maybe this will be the time!" and the result is always the same. I have not had the same experience with some of the smaller Wilsons. Much easier on my ears. Maybe it was just show conditions and I certainly don't doubt that Jay is loving what he is hearing. This is why there are so many choices in the marketplace. I own KEF Blades, which many are not a fan of acoustically and/or visually, but I really enjoy them. Different strokes.
    Definitely subjective. One thing I learned by going to shows and then eventually buying some of the same gear and hearing it again at shows is that it usually sounds better in your room. I think Jay mentions that same thing in his video.

    Are you sure you didn't hear the older Alexandria with the titanium tweeter? That was indeed a very different sound, and many find it bright.

    Here is a fun video from RMAF 2013 where I thought they sounded fantastic. The Alexandria XLF at RMAF - YouTube

    Anyway, I have heard your KEF blades at shows and really liked them, so I imagine they are even better in your room! Congrats.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2fastdriving View Post
    Definitely subjective. One thing I learned by going to shows and then eventually buying some of the same gear and hearing it again at shows is that it usually sounds better in your room. I think Jay mentions that same thing in his video.

    Are you sure you didn't hear the older Alexandria with the titanium tweeter? That was indeed a very different sound, and many find it bright.

    Here is a fun video from RMAF 2013 where I thought they sounded fantastic. The Alexandria XLF at RMAF - YouTube

    Anyway, I have heard your KEF blades at shows and really liked them, so I imagine they are even better in your room! Congrats.
    Upon further reflection, I think some of my experiences were with the Alexx. Results were the same for me.
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    Congrats Jay on the Wilson XLF! They are really fine speakers with a big sound. I also much prefer them over the Alexx.

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    WOW Jay, those speakers should bring you much musical enjoyment. Would be nice to hear, after you've had the Wilsons in-place for a time, how you summarize the pros and cons vs. the M6. Final distination speaker, or is this just a pit-stop?
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    Jay the XLF's should be an excellent centerpiece to build upon for many video's.
    I love the color of those beasts!
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    Thanks everyone.
    They are here to see how I like them and because i had a great opportunity to jump on them .
    As far as the color, it was a scary thought when i saw pictures but once i got them in here and put them under bright lights, I'm loving it.
    Mike and many others said they also loved color. Maybe it's the combination of the room color with the orange?
    The efficiency is amazing by the way. That said, i believe they could use more power in order to open up more. They don't need power to play loud but they could use the overhead to make it more effortless and bigger sounding.

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    Every loudspeaker known to man loves power , nothing like getting out of the amp clipping , PSU sagging range , the ease and dynamics hidden in many recordings will shine ...



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