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    Re: Jay's Audio Journey

    Are we getting ripped off with the ultra high end? Are we overpaying? What is our responsibility as buyers?

    On my next video i plan to talk about certain areas that are often not talked about. Don't miss it
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    Great video and topic Jay. I hope this generates some conversation on AudioShark and other forums.
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    How is buying something by choice a rip off ..!
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    When you say that out loud it doesn’t make much sense does it. Who cares how someone spends their money. Oh and I am now fully Constellation Audio vested. I like my gear looking like rats nests inside.

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    How is buying something by choice a rip off ..!
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    Hahaha
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    Re: Jay's Audio Journey

    i am not saying any of the above. I am simply speaking how i feel. If you feel you have been taken for a ride you will feel it as such. Lots of snake oil out there, but unless you have deep hands-on experience with this, you would never know.

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    Jay I have been ripped off at all levels of hifi equipment, from the lowest price to highest. I think this is just the nature of this beast. Nobody twisted my arm to buy any of those mistakes. I like the conversation you are having and think it is needed.


    Quote Originally Posted by Jay's Audio Lab View Post
    i am not saying any of the above. I am simply speaking how i feel. If you feel you have been taken for a ride you will feel it as such. Lots of snake oil out there, but unless you have deep hands-on experience with this, you would never know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nc42acc View Post
    Jay I have been ripped off at all levels of hifi equipment, from the lowest price to highest. I think this is just the nature of this beast. Nobody twisted my arm to buy any of those mistakes. I like the conversation you are having and think it is needed.
    Explain further… Do you mean you bought something but you never received it? Or you bought something thinking it had a specific retail price and yet you were charged more?

    People have to choose their words more carefully some times.

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    Mr. Nutz it was a generalization. The feeling of being ripped off can be many things to many people. Some examples are equipment that is hyped with superlatives by the companies and then lathered generously by reviews that do not correspond to either once received. Caveat emptor

    Quote Originally Posted by dznutz View Post
    Explain further… Do you mean you bought something but you never received it? Or you bought something thinking it had a specific retail price and yet you were charged more?

    People have to choose their words more carefully some times.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dznutz View Post
    Explain further… Do you mean you bought something but you never received it? Or you bought something thinking it had a specific retail price and yet you were charged more?

    People have to choose their words more carefully some times.
    Kinda like you in the Lampi thread ..!!!
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    Re: Jay's Audio Journey

    I cannot unsee that. Jay you are losing credibility.
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    There is no real "credibility". This is all about each other's journey. Nothing else. I'm not Hitler and will NEVER close my doors on anyone only because we have different views UNLESS they were abrasive towards me.
    It's a great thing you aren't a YouTuber Marty because you've be cutting your veins from the backlash that comes with it such as the one you just displayed above.
    I've learned to "coexist" with others who have different preferences with regards to audio.
    If someone is good people and fun to be around, my doors are open even if we don't like each other's systems. I don't use my system as a political party. You don't have to vote for it in order to get on my good side. You get on my good side if you are genuine and real and don't cross me the wrong way-(Not liking my system IS NOT one)
    When you say "I'm losing credibility" because someone wanted to pay me a visit who also has not done anything bad to me really is disturbing.

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    Jay calm down you need to lighten up. You obviously are too uptight about audio. I would invite both you and Mikey to my home even if I don’t agree with all your opinions. I will refrain from participating on your thread.
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    I didn't ask for you to refrain from posting. I would never do that. Maybe you didn't mean it in a bad way but if you said it as a joke then maybe a smiley face or a "lol" could have been added to lighten the mood. Sometimes posting things can be taken the wrong way and if I took if the wrong way and you meant it in a playful manner, I am apologizing to you.
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    It’s MMA ( mixed martial audio ) the ground game always get dirty ..
    * An Audiophile is only as old as his tweeters ..!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jay's Audio Lab View Post
    Glad to see people finally having this discussion about the sonic attributes. I’ve been talking about it for years and when I first brought it up, people either didn’t care or didn’t believe me. Now people are doing the comparisons and hearing it for themselves.


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    Re: Jay's Audio Journey

    Wanted to clarify the following:


    Magico speakers may be serviced by a skilled technician at any authorized Magico dealer or at the factory.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    Wanted to clarify the following:


    Magico speakers may be serviced by a skilled technician at any authorized Magico dealer or at the factory.


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro
    I have changed drivers myself, in my house, Magico provided clear instructions.

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    Folks,
    It seems to me as if someone from mágico has called each person or dealer and instructed them to post against my own findings.
    I wasn't attacking the brand but any means. I simply shared my findings with actual evidence. For the record, before I say something I typically have proof and fact-check what I say. I'm not going to embarrass my sources either by saying who shared what with me.
    If you watch my YouTube comments you'll notice the comments from those coming to the rescue. But why? What did I say to upset anyone? It's ridiculous.
    Here I am, former owner of:
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    Do I need more on my resume?
    Should I work on the mágico q7 mk2 to be more qualified? Let me know, I can certainly close the deal this month.

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    What are you whining about? I watched your video, didn't you want us to do so?? Your premise is false. I also own a Magico M loudspeaker. I know for a fact that you do not have to send your speakers to Magico to change a driver. Maybe you did, for whatever reason, but it is not a must. The drivers are expensive, you are right about that.

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    Whining?
    Funny. I bet you wouldn't say that to my face. Of course, everyone is batman behind a computer screen and I'm the joker. I bet that wouldn't be the case in person.

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    Re: Jay's Audio Journey

    And why wouldn't I?

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    Because you are just words. Youre here in my party. Will you be at the Florida audio expo or will you be typing here? I will be there. You can easily find me. I'm 6'1 281 lbs. You can't miss the 2XL shirt that says Jay's Audio Lab. Come find me and stop talking.
    Oh sorry you're in Canada. You won't be there. I'll just stop.

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    I think it is a good idea for you to stop, in case you haven't noticed, we are online, and here we are all the same size. Physical threats won't do. You worked hard to build a reputation, this is not a good look for you.

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    If me having a "good look" entails me letting others shit on me then I prefer to be the bad boy from the audiophile community. Im not sure I can be more blunt than that.

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    Re: Jay's Audio Journey

    And you keep whining... buy buy

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    I initially felt that this youtube channel was like watching "If Donald Trump was an Audiophile". After watching him interact with Mikey, I was impressed by Jay's deference and thoughtfulness to OCD Mikey (whom I am not yet convinced warrants Jay's deference and thoughtfulness). Jay won me over with this...

    I'm still not sure, at times, if I am watching this channel with the same fascination of rubbernecking at an accident, or due to its brilliance.
    Nevertheless, It's Jay's Bloody Pulpit, and he has the right to any opinion he wishes.
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    Thank you Ricky 🥂
    By the way, by looking at your signature, I think the essence stereo and the Rockport atria is probably a killer match. I'd love to hear it !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ricky64 View Post
    I initially felt that this youtube channel was like watching "If Donald Trump was an Audiophile". After watching him interact with Mikey, I was impressed by Jay's deference and thoughtfulness to OCD Mikey (whom I am not yet convinced warrants Jay's deference and thoughtfulness). Jay won me over with this...

    I'm still not sure, at times, if I am watching this channel with the same fascination of rubbernecking at an accident, or due to its brilliance.
    Nevertheless, It's Jay's Bloody Pulpit, and he has the right to any opinion he wishes.
    He is entitled to an opinion, but he presents them as facts, which they are certainly not. When called on that, he throws a fit and then resorts to threats (been online for 20 years, that's a first). A typical bully, he does not fool me anymore.

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    Why are you still here reading if you criticize me so much? Tune out. Change the channel. It's people like Rick who make me stronger and feed me the carbs to want to muscle 💪 the hell out the trolls or haters. I only need one supporter behind me and that gives me enough fuel to knock out ten trolls at a time.
    I'm not the dude with the long white hair who looks like Albert Einstein and that wears a badge on their pocket that says "I'm am audiophile".
    I'm the new NOW, what's coming and the changing of the guards. It's time for a change in this industry and RIGHT NOW, whether you hate me or not, it is coming in the form of a big bald dude. I'm carrying the new generations of audiophiles because unfortunately the old is begining to die off since human nature is what dictates that.
    New ideas, younger CEOs, new enginners, fresh minds, younger personalities. It's what the world is doing across all industries and I think this industry NEEDS IT DESPERATELY.
    Of course, you weren't at Capital Audio Fest 2021 but you'd be shocked at the massive amounts of people who stopped me to thank me for what I'm doing. They all echoed the same thing: "Jay we love you because you don't look like an audiophile and you are doing what NOBODY ELSE IS DOING -thank you".
    That's all I need to keep this train rolling forward.
    End of story.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LVB View Post
    ...I also own a Magico M loudspeaker. I know for a fact that you do not have to send your speakers to Magico to change a driver....
    For S, for sure. But I thought Q and M had to go back to the factory.
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    You thought wrong, you can relax. Ask your dealer/distributor.

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    The idea just didn't jump into my head. I was told that was the case. But I can't remember by whom.
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    Quote Originally Posted by brodricj View Post
    The idea just didn't jump into my head. I was told that was the case. But I can't remember by whom.

    That's the problem with false information, you know, typically spared online

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jay's Audio Lab View Post
    I'm the new NOW, what's coming and the changing of the guards. It's time for a change in this industry and RIGHT NOW, whether you hate me or not, it is coming in the form of a big bald dude. I'm carrying the new generations of audiophiles because unfortunately the old is begining to die off since human nature is what dictates that.
    New ideas, younger CEOs, new enginners, fresh minds, younger personalities.
    in what direction are you going to steer the industry?

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    I vaguely recall when upgrading from S to Q, after having two local repairs done on S, that Q would need to go back to the factory.
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