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    Go Figure... Tubes

    It's 58 degrees outside. We have the heat on in the house.

    Though, in my listening room I need to have the AC running.

    Go Figure.
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    You Florida guys are never happy !!!! LOL Brad !
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    Yup. 70 and cranky.

    I needed long pants and 2 long sleeve shirts for my walk this morning.
    When we lived in Maine 53 degrees was my favorite temp to go out for a run in shorts and short sleeve T shirt.
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    LOL, 58 degrees and the heat is on, you Floridians.

    Although our current weather is not typical it is -1 F as I type with a wind chill of -8. But being from Maine you probably have felt that before.
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    Quote Originally Posted by brad225 View Post
    Yup. 70 and cranky.

    I needed long pants and 2 long sleeve shirts for my walk this morning.
    When we lived in Maine 53 degrees was my favorite temp to go out for a run in shorts and short sleeve T shirt.
    Maine is one of my favorite states East of the 'Big Muddy'. I snowmobiled for 20 years throughout the Moosehead Lake region.
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    It is currently 3 degrees here. When the wind picks up it will feel a whole lot lower. In a couple days it should warm a bit .
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    I lived on an island in Casco Bay, Maine for 5 years. During the winter it was not unusual to have the air temp be -20 degrees with a 40-50 mph wind, that is cold.
    In the area of -80 degrees. I don't care where you live, thats cold.

    I'm sure Dave has felt some negative temps with strong winds on Moosehead.

    Donna and I moved to Florida in 1985 after 15 years in Maine. We felt if we didn't like Fl. we would move to Boston. Great, big/small city.

    We decided warm was just fine with us.
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    Seattle is perfect tube country. Not too hot. Not to cold, accept last week it was 15 degree. I only have about a week out of the year I wont run my stereo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by brad225 View Post
    It's 58 degrees outside. We have the heat on in the house.

    Though, in my listening room I need to have the AC running.

    Go Figure.

    Open the windows ..
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    I find it odd how no one opens windows in Florida. We were visiting my mother in law this winter. It was 68 to 74 most days and nights. She has all the windows closed and runs the AC. At night we got her to open the doors to let the fresh air in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kingrex View Post
    I find it odd how no one opens windows in Florida. We were visiting my mother in law this winter. It was 68 to 74 most days and nights. She has all the windows closed and runs the AC. At night we got her to open the doors to let the fresh air in.
    We open our windows, BUT ! it all depends on the time of year and the humidity. Like at the moment, its 64degress and 74%. A little sticky.
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    The only window in my listening room is behind an acoustic panel and covered with cloth for the appearance from the outside.
    If it was that easy I would certainly do that.
    Plus it could be quite humid.

    If the house is cool and the heat doesn't need to be on I set the fans to auto and pull the cool air into the room. This doesn't always work though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kingrex View Post
    I find it odd how no one opens windows in Florida. We were visiting my mother in law this winter. It was 68 to 74 most days and nights. She has all the windows closed and runs the AC. At night we got her to open the doors to let the fresh air in.
    As soon as the temp hits the low 70's high 60's in the fall we have doors and windows open. Nothing better then fresh air after a summer of hight heat and humidity.

    As CPP said even if it is cool it can be humid.
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    I just looked at the weather here. Its 67 degrees and 93% humidity. You open the door and get slapped with a wall of moisture. Go figure. Florida.
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    I have not opened the windows once since being here in Wichita. Either both furnaces are heating or both ACs are cooling .
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    Quote Originally Posted by brad225 View Post
    I just looked at the weather here. Its 67 degrees and 93% humidity. You open the door and get slapped with a wall of moisture. Go figure. Florida.
    Agree Brad. Like up our way,

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    Quote Originally Posted by brad225 View Post
    I lived on an island in Casco Bay, Maine for 5 years. During the winter it was not unusual to have the air temp be -20 degrees with a 40-50 mph wind, that is cold.
    In the area of -80 degrees. I don't care where you live, thats cold.

    I'm sure Dave has felt some negative temps with strong winds on Moosehead.

    Donna and I moved to Florida in 1985 after 15 years in Maine. We felt if we didn't like Fl. we would move to Boston. Great, big/small city.

    We decided warm was just fine with us.
    Brad, I love the coast line of Maine, one of my favorites of N America. As for Moosehead Lake, superb beauty, whether winter cold or summer warmth !
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikado463 View Post
    Brad, I love the coast line of Maine, one of my favorites of N America. As for Moosehead Lake, superb beauty, whether winter cold or summer warmth !
    About the only places in Maine I'm familiar with from my 2 week visit back in 1993, are Portland, BoothBay Harbor, Ogunquit , Kennebunkport, York for pictures of the lighthouses and Freeport to hit the LL Bean store. And I know there were more towns as we landed in Boston and drove up the coast. We took an offer from American Airlines at the time, fly into two cities with the same names, within 30 days and get the other fair 50% off, so we did Portland Me and Portland Oregon. Maine was so pretty, but I did overdose on Lobster ( and their twin specials). I mean breakfast, lunch and dinner was a little much ( richness).
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    Chris, as I'm sure Brad will point out, there is so much to see along the Maine coast It can't be done in a week alone ! Buddy of mine has a summer camp outside of Damariscotta and if you're an Oyster lover........some of the best !

    As for Moosehead Lake (again), it and Crater Lake in Oregon are two of the most beautiful bodies of water in America IMO.

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    If you want some "Lobsta" Maine is the place to go.
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    Quote Originally Posted by brad225 View Post
    If you want some "Lobsta" Maine is the place to go.
    It sure is. They sell Lobsta on the side of the roads like we in Fl sell Shrimp. I remember twins for $9.95 and these were freaking huge.
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    Quote Originally Posted by brad225 View Post
    If you want some "Lobsta" Maine is the place to go.

    Agreed, we did the traditional 'ocean side bake' this past August. While I like Lobster, I'll take Maryland blue crab first and foremost.........
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    We don't open our windows as much anymore, allergens and humidity, plus I don't like getting cold at night and not wanting to get out of the bed, LOL. Our HVAC has a setting to where I can set a minimum and maximum temp and it will keep me in the zone. Temps can vary a lot in 24 hours in the Midwest.
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    If you're dealing with heat from an amp, a simple way to move it is to have vents in the ceiling above the amp or amps. A bit of dryer ductwork and a slow speed fan can send it outside. A customer of ours does this in his home in Guatemala. He doesn't like air conditioning and has our biggest amps, the MA-3. You can sit in his listening room day in and day out and it doesn't get uncomfortable. Cheaper and quieter than air conditioning... You might still use air but at least it isn't fighting the heat of the amps.

    Or you could go with class D and be done with that whole heat thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by atmasphere View Post
    If you're dealing with heat from an amp, a simple way to move it is to have vents in the ceiling above the amp or amps. A bit of dryer ductwork and a slow speed fan can send it outside. A customer of ours does this in his home in Guatemala. He doesn't like air conditioning and has our biggest amps, the MA-3. You can sit in his listening room day in and day out and it doesn't get uncomfortable. Cheaper and quieter than air conditioning... You might still use air but at least it isn't fighting the heat of the amps.

    Or you could go with class D and be done with that whole heat thing.
    Thanks for the suggestion on venting to the outside.

    I don't have an issue with cooling the room. When we added on a new master bedroom another AC system was added for that room and my listening room.
    It is a 2 zone system with separate thermostats and dampers to control the temperature in each room.
    When I did the calculations with our AC company I needed 1 Ton of cold air just to offset the vacuum tubes I was running.
    When my amps were rebuilt and they changed from 6550s to KT120s the heat in the room from the amps dropped by about 60%.
    I was surprised there was that much difference.

    My original comment for the thread was just that, it was ironic that I needed to run the AC and the heat in the house at the same time because of the number of tubes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Peabody View Post
    LOL, 58 degrees and the heat is on, you Floridians.

    Although our current weather is not typical it is -1 F as I type with a wind chill of -8. But being from Maine you probably have felt that before.
    I wonder why Florida is such a popular place to live - particularly to retire to!

    I used to visit the US every winter about this time of year and stopped a few days in New York - weather OK, then to Los Angeles and travelled the western states by car for 3 weeks or so - beautiful weather, and then a few days in Miami. Even in winter you go into a corner shop and they ask you to shut the door quickly - to keep the cold in!

    The temperature and humidity mean that, even walking along Miracle Mile is uncomfortable and it's a relief to get indoors where huge quantities of energy are expended to get rid of the energy (heat) from inside! And this is mid-winter - I dread to think what Florida is like in summer. What a strange country where hundreds of thousands of people choose to live in an area that until relatively recently (before Flagler built his railroad), was swampland inhabited mainly by creature better adapted to high temperatures and humidity (and for that matter hurricanes) than Man!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hear Here View Post
    I wonder why Florida is such a popular place to live - particularly to retire to!

    I used to visit the US every winter about this time of year and stopped a few days in New York - weather OK, then to Los Angeles and travelled the western states by car for 3 weeks or so - beautiful weather, and then a few days in Florida. Even in winter you go into a corner shop and they ask you to shut the door quickly - to keep the cold in!

    The temperature and humidity mean that, even walking on streets is uncomfortable and it's a relief to get indoors where huge quantities of energy are expended to get rid of the energy (heat) from inside! And this is mid-winter - I dread to think what Florida is like in summer. What a strange country where hundreds of thousands of people choose to live in an area that until relatively recently (before Flagler built his railroad), was swampland inhabited mainly by creature better adapted to high temperatures and humidity (and for that matter hurricanes) than Man!
    As someone that has lived in Fl pretty much my whole adult life of 71 years, many seniors choose to retire in Florida solely based on tax reasons. That is because Florida is one of the only states that does not tax social security, income, investments, pensions, 401(k)s, inheritances, or estates. Not to mention if you like the outdoors, attractions and all sports ( besides hunting) are played 12 months out of the year. The weather, like the UK, you get used to what you have.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hear Here View Post
    I wonder why Florida is such a popular place to live - particularly to retire to!

    I used to visit the US every winter about this time of year and stopped a few days in New York - weather OK, then to Los Angeles and travelled the western states by car for 3 weeks or so - beautiful weather, and then a few days in Miami. Even in winter you go into a corner shop and they ask you to shut the door quickly - to keep the cold in!

    The temperature and humidity mean that, even walking along Miracle Mile is uncomfortable and it's a relief to get indoors where huge quantities of energy are expended to get rid of the energy (heat) from inside! And this is mid-winter - I dread to think what Florida is like in summer. What a strange country where hundreds of thousands of people choose to live in an area that until relatively recently (before Flagler built his railroad), was swampland inhabited mainly by creature better adapted to high temperatures and humidity (and for that matter hurricanes) than Man!
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    Quiet. We want them to think it’s still swampy with lots of animals that will kill them, so no one will move here. :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by brad225 View Post
    Quiet. We want them to think it’s still swampy with lots of animals that will kill them, so no one will move here. :-)
    Oh yes. We need to keep everything quite, as there are too many living here already . I think I read somewhere there are 400,000 Brits living in Fla permanently or temporarily, according to the Florida Association of British Business.
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    I wasn't born here so, I guess I have no say in how many can move here.
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    Chris / Brad, I remember going through Orlando in '58 by train on the way to visit my great grandparents in St Pete for Easter. Basically a swamp with a station. Fast forward 66 years later ..........
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikado463 View Post
    Chris / Brad, I remember going through Orlando in '58 by train on the way to visit my great grandparents in St Pete for Easter. Basically a swamp with a station. Fast forward 66 years later ..........
    Still a big developed swamp and its growth is not slowing down. Well to be honest, the whole state is growing like crazy. Cut those trees down and plant concrete seems to be the direction its going.
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    I am kind of liking the central US so far. I lived East (Upstate NY), and West Coast (Central Coast of California), but Wichita seems pretty nice. Big enough to get you most everything (except for a good audio store... I mean 700,000 population should have a good audio store???... not even a Best Buy Magnolia store... WTH), but traffic is so much better... health care is about as good as you can get... people are friendly, easy to find your way around... can get anywhere in Wichita in 15-20 minutes... Acoustic Sounds is only a ONE HOUR DRIVE.... woot woot!!! Cost of living is pretty good (gas prices are very nice compared to Cali) other than property taxes are surprisingly high.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Randy Myers View Post
    I am kind of liking the central US so far. I lived East (Upstate NY), and West Coast (Central Coast of California), but Wichita seems pretty nice. Big enough to get you most everything (except for a good audio store... I mean 700,000 population should have a good audio store???... not even a Best Buy Magnolia store... WTH), but traffic is so much better... health care is about as good as you can get... people are friendly, easy to find your way around... can get anywhere in Wichita in 15-20 minutes... Acoustic Sounds is only a ONE HOUR DRIVE.... woot woot!!! Cost of living is pretty good (gas prices are very nice compared to Cali) other than property taxes are surprisingly high.
    Have you had to experience any of those twirly things ( tornado's)
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    Have you had to experience any of those twirly things ( tornado's)
    Nope... some thunderstorms of course. I think Florida has had more Tornados than Wichita since we have been here . Actually, Wichita does not have a history of Tornados... South in Oklahoma seems to and more Western (where it is REALLY Flat) seems to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikado463 View Post
    Chris / Brad, I remember going through Orlando in '58 by train on the way to visit my great grandparents in St Pete for Easter. Basically a swamp with a station. Fast forward 66 years later ..........
    Fast forward 66 years ...... and look at all of us wild non-native creatures that have taken over.

    Is there any chance that photos of that trip exist, Dave?
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    We were in the 70s earlier in the week tonight below freezing. Brrrrrrrr.

    Time to build a fire and make Smores with grand niece and nephew. Then, send them home all hopped up on sugar.

    And, their parents with some wine in them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by brad225 View Post
    We were in the 70s earlier in the week tonight below freezing. Brrrrrrrr.

    Time to build a fire and make Smores with grand niece and nephew. Then, send them home all hopped up on sugar.

    And, their parents with some wine in them.
    Oh yes, grandkids, nice to have them visit for a few days, but nicer to send them back to their parents. , hum!, come to think of it, that's the same thing our grandparents said about us
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    Quote Originally Posted by brad225 View Post
    Fast forward 66 years ...... and look at all of us wild non-native creatures that have taken over.

    Is there any chance that photos of that trip exist, Dave?
    Brad, I wasn't even 5 at the time so not even a Kodak 'brownie' did I have then, I suspect somewhere in the archives my parents and grandparents snapped a few. Good Lord knows what ever happened to them. I remember staying at the Edgewater beach Motel and eating at the 'Sand Dollar Restaurant' in St Pete
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    Have you had to experience any of those twirly things ( tornado's)
    When I was visiting a publisher in Coral Gables in the 80s, the company owner's fancy newly-built house (within commuter distance of Miami) was completely destroyed by a hurricane. Even worse, although he was fully insured, many neighbours were uninsured so their houses were not rebuilt but patched up and occupied by homeless people or squatters. His neighbourhood was permanently ruined.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hear Here View Post
    When I was visiting a publisher in Coral Gables in the 80s, the company owner's fancy newly-built house (within commuter distance of Miami) was completely destroyed by a hurricane. Even worse was that many neighbours were uninsured so their houses were not rebuilt but patched up and occupied by homeless people or squatters. His neighbourhood was permanently ruined.
    I can tell ya all about hurricanes and home insurance and building issues vs codes. What gets me, a lot of the "wealthy" people that more money than sense, do not carry home owners or flood insurance. Go figure
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