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    The Front End Digital Foundation

    Several posts are out on various network switches, optical filtering devices, etc.

    Spend some time learning what’s out there, you will be blown away what digital is capable of. Breaking it down, all in will gain you a lot more than the cost of a mid to high level power cable, brand depending

    There are several brands of network switches; the top contenders are AQVox (German) SOtM (Korea) and The Linear Solution (Washington, USA).

    Gigafoil v4 is a top contender in optical filtering, and TP Link makes a filtering device at much less then the Gigafoil.

    I highly recommended the use of a linear power supply (LPS) and not to forgot the aftermarket AC and DC power cables, plus isolation feet. There are a lot of companies making LPS with several options and price points.

    One of my largest system gains at the lowest outlay of cash was incorporating the LPS on the modem, network switch and optical filtering with decent cables just adds a natural refinement to the sound, it’s beyond amazing. My system has never sounded so good with all the cables and components that have settled in nicely. Not to mention the collateral benefit of playing with modems and such are the Apple TVs and regular cable through the home which has all upped their game.

    I chose Ghent cables, located in China to make my DC cables and he uses high end Japanese cable and connectors. These cables are way beyond reasonable. I just updated to the Gotham series at under a $100 each for 1M.

    Purpose of this thread is to lump the digital foundation all into one conversation.

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    Power Conditioning, Filters & Switch: Nordost QRT Power Product Line, Furutech GTX-D NCF/GTX 105D, 20 AMP Dedicated w/Surge Protection, AQVox SE switch, Keces LPS P3 & P8 w/Nordost AC power and Ghent DC cables for the Gigafoil v4, modem, routers and switches.
    Cables, Isolation, Room Treatment: Nordost Supreme Reference (Odin) Distribution, Reference Line (Valhalla 2) Components and Speakers, HRS M3X Platforms & Damping Plates. Stillpoint’s Ultra 6/SS and Vicoustic Room Treatments
    Power & Sound: D’Agostino Pre-Amplifier to D’Agostino Momentum Mono’s driving Wilson Alexia’s
    Source and Digital: Aurender N10, Brinkmann Nyquist MKII



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    Re: The Front End Digital Foundation

    Thanks Ed
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    Re: The Front End Digital Foundation

    Today I repurposed a PS Audio ($50.00) receptacle outlet I had to the cheap Home Depot receptacle in my mechanical room where my Arris Surfboard 10/100/1000 modem resides.

    It may be a coincidence but things got quieter, will need to validate this.

    I have a better than cheap distribution ($75?) plugged into the PS Audio receptacle, and from the power cable into the first receptacle is a PS Audio Noise Harvester ($75.00), then a Shunyata plug in conditioner ($199.00) then the Nordost Red Dawn ($400) feeding a Keces P8 ($699) that runs Ghent Gotham cables ($100 each) to the modem and switch. I use Audio Quest Vodka RJ45s until the AQVox SE switch.

    Very happy with these results, and posting this for people to think about the front end and how you can go at in pieces.

    Starting over, I would change the outlet first, where I did this dead last.

    It all matters has been has been my experience and none of this is anywhere near the crazy costs once you get into the music room where the 2 channel resides.




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    Cables, Isolation, Room Treatment: Nordost Supreme Reference (Odin) Distribution, Reference Line (Valhalla 2) Components and Speakers, HRS M3X Platforms & Damping Plates. Stillpoint’s Ultra 6/SS and Vicoustic Room Treatments
    Power & Sound: D’Agostino Pre-Amplifier to D’Agostino Momentum Mono’s driving Wilson Alexia’s
    Source and Digital: Aurender N10, Brinkmann Nyquist MKII



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    Re: The Front End Digital Foundation

    Very interesting.

    I try to avoid having my music going through the network completely. I have all of my music on internal SSDs in my server. I go directly out through AQ Coffee USB cable to a W4S Recovery, back out through another Coffee to the DAC. Every component is connect through an AQ Niagara power conditioner and I do have a Linear Power Supply on the Recovery and I also have two PS Audio Noise Harvesters attached to the same power outlet as the Niagara. It all sounds quite to me and friends from the audio club usually comment on how "black" the back ground is in my system.
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    Re: The Front End Digital Foundation

    Quote Originally Posted by Randy Myers View Post
    Very interesting.

    I try to avoid having my music going through the network completely. I have all of my music on internal SSDs in my server. I go directly out through AQ Coffee USB cable to a W4S Recovery, back out through another Coffee to the DAC. Every component is connect through an AQ Niagara power conditioner and I do have a Linear Power Supply on the Recovery and I also have two PS Audio Noise Harvesters attached to the same power outlet as the Niagara. It all sounds quite to me and friends from the audio club usually comment on how "black" the back ground is in my system.
    Hey Randy - Makes sense on what you did especially with all your music on your SSD.

    I may have 100 albums playing off my SSD, and found I rarely pick up a CD and have drawers full from when I started back in the 80’s.

    Streaming is just too easy for me and with recordings making or breaking playback I wanted to be sure to have a very stable playback and operation and IMO Tidal/Quboz make it simple, with being more favorable to Quboz.


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    Cables, Isolation, Room Treatment: Nordost Supreme Reference (Odin) Distribution, Reference Line (Valhalla 2) Components and Speakers, HRS M3X Platforms & Damping Plates. Stillpoint’s Ultra 6/SS and Vicoustic Room Treatments
    Power & Sound: D’Agostino Pre-Amplifier to D’Agostino Momentum Mono’s driving Wilson Alexia’s
    Source and Digital: Aurender N10, Brinkmann Nyquist MKII



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    Re: The Front End Digital Foundation

    Certainly I can understand what you are accomplishing with your network if streaming is important to you. Since I prefer to own and play all of my music locally the network does not come into play for my playback (other then the control tablet, Surface Pro 6 in my case).

    I figure I have a hard enough time picking out what I want to listen to as it is with almost 1000 albums (mixture of downloads, flac and DSD up to DSD256, CD Rips, and SACD rips) that I could not imagine determining what I would like to hear from Tidal or Quboz .

    All of my disks get a single spin to rip and copy to the server and backup drives. So my spinner doesn't get used a ton any more ....
    Falcon Northwest Tiki; Roon > HQ Player > AQ Coffee USB > W4S Recovery > AQ Coffee USB > T+A DAC 8 DSD > Rothwell XLR Attenuators > AQ Amazon XLR > Wyred 4 Sound STP-SE Stage 2 > AQ Anaconda XLR > Audio Mirror ​SET 45 > Kimber Kable 12TC > KEF R700; AQ Niagara 1000; T+A AMP 8; Focal Clear; Oppo BDP-105; Technics ST-9030; Magnum Dynalab ST-2; Richard Gray; Pangea​; Ginko

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    The Front End Digital Foundation

    Quote Originally Posted by Randy Myers View Post
    Certainly I can understand what you are accomplishing with your network if streaming is important to you. Since I prefer to own and play all of my music locally the network does not come into play for my playback (other then the control tablet, Surface Pro 6 in my case).

    I figure I have a hard enough time picking out what I want to listen to as it is with almost 1000 albums (mixture of downloads, flac and DSD up to DSD256, CD Rips, and SACD rips) that I could not imagine determining what I would like to hear from Tidal or Quboz .

    All of my disks get a single spin to rip and copy to the server and backup drives. So my spinner doesn't get used a ton any more ....
    We all seem lucky to only have first world problems


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    Power Conditioning, Filters & Switch: Nordost QRT Power Product Line, Furutech GTX-D NCF/GTX 105D, 20 AMP Dedicated w/Surge Protection, AQVox SE switch, Keces LPS P3 & P8 w/Nordost AC power and Ghent DC cables for the Gigafoil v4, modem, routers and switches.
    Cables, Isolation, Room Treatment: Nordost Supreme Reference (Odin) Distribution, Reference Line (Valhalla 2) Components and Speakers, HRS M3X Platforms & Damping Plates. Stillpoint’s Ultra 6/SS and Vicoustic Room Treatments
    Power & Sound: D’Agostino Pre-Amplifier to D’Agostino Momentum Mono’s driving Wilson Alexia’s
    Source and Digital: Aurender N10, Brinkmann Nyquist MKII



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    Re: The Front End Digital Foundation

    I have Stillpoints Ultra Mini under my Keces P3 and moved my Ultra SS from my Transport I hardly use to the P8 - I’m not sure if my mind is playing tricks on me but things sound like they tightened up in the mid and low end even more.

    Stillpoints are controversial for me as they have removed midrange before in my system and speakers. Right now I am hearing the opposite to this plus low end tightening as well.


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    Cables, Isolation, Room Treatment: Nordost Supreme Reference (Odin) Distribution, Reference Line (Valhalla 2) Components and Speakers, HRS M3X Platforms & Damping Plates. Stillpoint’s Ultra 6/SS and Vicoustic Room Treatments
    Power & Sound: D’Agostino Pre-Amplifier to D’Agostino Momentum Mono’s driving Wilson Alexia’s
    Source and Digital: Aurender N10, Brinkmann Nyquist MKII



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    Re: The Front End Digital Foundation

    I saw Shunyata recently announced the Sigma Ethernet cable. I would be interested in trying this out or hearing if others have?
    Wilson Sasha / Transparent Ultra Audio cables / Dan A'gostino Momentum S250/ Rossini DAC / Gigafoil v4 w/ Keces P3 /Denali 6000S
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    Re: The Front End Digital Foundation

    Quote Originally Posted by UltraFast69 View Post
    I chose Ghent cables, located in China to make my DC cables and he uses high end Japanese cable and connectors. These cables are way beyond reasonable. I just updated to the Gotham series at under a $100 each for 1M.
    Which cable did you order to go from the Keces P3 to the Gigafoil? This resulted in an improvement? I'm keen to possibly give it a try.
    Wilson Sasha / Transparent Ultra Audio cables / Dan A'gostino Momentum S250/ Rossini DAC / Gigafoil v4 w/ Keces P3 /Denali 6000S
    Wilson Benesch Full Circle with Ply cartridge / PS Audio ADC phono

 

 
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