CES news 2014

**Paul** · January 9, 2014, 05:30 PM

Originally Posted by veindoc

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Finally got info. Lush beautiful sound was powered by Dag monoblocks on The VA The Music. Preamp was VTL 7.5. Photo of room above
Nick

Thank you so much Nick. Luv it

**Paul** · January 9, 2014, 05:31 PM

Originally Posted by wisnon

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Positive Feedback Online Next up were always impressive Vienna Acoustics speakers. Distributor VANA Ltd. went all out driving the top-of the-line Vienna Acoustics Klimt Series The Music with the D'Agostino Master Audio Momentum mono amplifiers capably assisted by the Momentum preamplifier and VTL 7.5 phono stage. And I doubt too many left this room disappointed. The sound was simply effortless and very neutral. Hellborg's bass guitar on Elegant Punk were tightly controlled, detailed and powerful.
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**NorthStar** · January 9, 2014, 05:33 PM

Vienna Acoustics - Klimt Series:

- The Music (The real deal - Full range loudspeaker)
- The Kiss (The smaller Music without the two lower woofers - instead a fashionable/integral speaker stand)
- Poetry (Center channel speaker)

* Imperial is new to me.

**Paul** · January 9, 2014, 05:34 PM

Originally Posted by NorthStar

Vienna Acoustics - Klimt Series:

- The Music (The real deal - Full range loudspeaker)
- The Kiss (The Music - without the lower woofer's section - with those three woofer drivers - instead a fashionable/integral speaker stand)
- Poetry (Center channel speaker)

Plus No super tweeter

**NorthStar** · January 9, 2014, 05:39 PM

Originally Posted by BlueMcIntosh

Plus No super tweeter

Yeah, I noticed that too, but I deliberately forgot to mention; just to see if you were alert.

**Penthouse-D** · January 9, 2014, 06:48 PM

Firstly, I'm thrilled those big Focals would't fit in my freight elevator. Is Vitus showing??? Photos? Thanks!!

**Bruce** · January 9, 2014, 07:01 PM

Originally Posted by dev

Hi Bruce,

I just received this table in November so it's new to me and offering so much over my previous tables I'm just taking it all in enjoying, I have yet to try any other arms. I will eventually install one in the rear left setting - on my short list to date is Schroeder LT - DaVinci Master Reference Virtu. TechDas is coming out with one also so I'll wait to see, their cart has peaked my interest also, Jack and his brother Jim from the Philippines now both own the same AF-1 table and have shared only positives.

Bruce I do have some Graham arm experience and was kinda shaking my head originally, why? Well I had a Phantom II and then got my REED which in my system I felt was superior over all and preferred so I sold the Phantom. Bob has assured me the Elite is a far superior design and due to my current set-up sounding so marvelous isn't concerning me but in the end once I add my other arm I will find out

Ha Dev! Firstly no I'm not BB from Puget--he is much smarter than I!

Secondly thank you for the controlled responses and glad the setup you have --how impressive I must admit some jealousy there-- is working to you satisfaction

Once again personal prefs -as is so prevalent in our game comes to the fore.

So please enjoy the Music--after all that's what it's all about

Good luck and Good Listening

Over and Out

Bruce

**RedSectorA** · January 9, 2014, 11:42 PM

Originally Posted by veindoc

i think Primare biggest amps as monoblocks were used with The VA Music speaker. I will call rep. Later today to
confirm

Nick

Actually they were Dag monos

edit (oups, just noticed someone found out before me)

**Myles B. Astor** · January 10, 2014, 12:37 AM

For those not using FB. Sorry that things seemed to have gotten a little jumbled up in transferring from FB to the PFO website.

ces20142

**veindoc** · January 10, 2014, 12:51 AM

Originally Posted by NorthStar

Yeah, I noticed that too, but I deliberately forgot to mention; just to see if you were alert.

Here is the lowdown on the VA Music of the Klimt series vs. The new Imperial of the Lizst series
Price 29.9k vs 12.5k
fully articulated tweeter module that can move up and down and side to side swivel. The imperial has a smaller different tweeter in a module that can only swivel left and right. To change angle of front edge the 4 feet on the base can b raised or lowered to sort of tilt the speaker toward the desired listener ear height.
Nicer veneer and finish on the Music.
3 adjustable levers to tune speaker to your room.
+supertweeter and larger woofers down to 18HZ

As the Music was paired with VTL 7.5 and D'ag monoblocks it was ez to c why it sounded so much finer than the new Imperial which may b perfect for smaller rooms at a lower budget. I think Primare amps were used on the Imperial.
Cheers,

Nick

**Dpod4** · January 10, 2014, 12:52 AM

Originally Posted by Myles B. Astor

For those not using FB. Sorry that things seemed to have gotten a little jumbled up in transferring from FB to the PFO website.

ces20142

Thank you, Myles. That is the best show report I have ever read. And I read them all from stereophile to absolute sound to positive feedback to bloggers. You cover not just equipment but people. You cover well known brands and lesser known brands. You cover vinyl deliciously. You give enough information and photos - name the products, give some detail and share your POV. And that last part is most important. You aren't just reporting the weather - you offer some context and opinion and comparison (eg "in contrast to the vast majority of rooms heard at this and other shows--was that there was actually really a midrange! What a concept! And no evidence of that artificial edge that I've heard in the other TAD models over the years"). Superb. And appreciated. You (and Alan Sircom) are the two best reviewers on planet earth right now. Cheers.

**KingRT10** · January 10, 2014, 01:21 AM

Originally Posted by Myles B. Astor

For those not using FB. Sorry that things seemed to have gotten a little jumbled up in transferring from FB to the PFO website.

ces20142

This was the best show report yet!

**Myles B. Astor** · January 10, 2014, 01:26 AM

Thanks very much guys, working on Pt. 3 tonight and the last part will probably be up after get back home on Sat.

Peter Breuninger and I are doing our show wrap up tomorrow and that should be up at AVShowrooms next week.

**Myles B. Astor** · January 10, 2014, 01:28 AM

Originally Posted by Dpod4

Thank you, Myles. That is the best show report I have ever read. And I read them all from stereophile to absolute sound to positive feedback to bloggers. You cover not just equipment but people. You cover well known brands and lesser known brands. You cover vinyl deliciously. You give enough information and photos - name the products, give some detail and share your POV. And that last part is most important. You aren't just reporting the weather - you offer some context and opinion and comparison (eg "in contrast to the vast majority of rooms heard at this and other shows--was that there was actually really a midrange! What a concept! And no evidence of that artificial edge that I've heard in the other TAD models over the years"). Superb. And appreciated. You (and Alan Sircom) are the two best reviewers on planet earth right now. Cheers.

Thanks, I do intentionally cover the people in the industry. I feel it's important because we read about the designers and their equipment but few will ever get to meet or see them. And there's so many good guys/gals as well as characters in the industry!

**NorthStar** · January 10, 2014, 01:47 AM

Originally Posted by veindoc

Here is the lowdown on the VA Music of the Klimt series vs. The new Imperial of the Lizst series
Price 29.9k vs 12.5k
fully articulated tweeter module that can move up and down and side to side swivel. The imperial has a smaller different tweeter in a module that can only swivel left and right. To change angle of front edge the 4 feet on the base can b raised or lowered to sort of tilt the speaker toward the desired listener ear height.
Nicer veneer and finish on the Music.
3 adjustable levers to tune speaker to your room.
+supertweeter and larger woofers down to 18HZ

As the Music was paired with VTL 7.5 and D'ag monoblocks it was ez to c why it sounded so much finer than the new Imperial which may b perfect for smaller rooms at a lower budget. I think Primare amps were used on the Imperial.
Cheers,

Nick

Thanks Nick; and with some pictures to add to that, graciousness of Leo Yeh.
...And all for you Paul, plus for all the other members and guests too, of course.
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**NorthStar** · January 10, 2014, 02:16 AM

**Dpod4** · January 10, 2014, 02:32 AM

Originally Posted by Myles B. Astor

Thanks, I do intentionally cover the people in the industry. I feel it's important because we read about the designers and their equipment but few will ever get to meet or see them. And there's so many good guys/gals as well as characters in the industry!

There is a coffee table book i would buy - in depth bios and interviews with audio titans

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**pelo911** · January 10, 2014, 03:25 AM

Originally Posted by NorthStar

MBL's (mbl) room ::

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I have wired question
I was there today
trying to find out what is the white machine on the left that make a great smell of eucalyptus (smoke)

someone know?

**Mike** · January 10, 2014, 03:37 AM

A humidifier??

**pelo911** · January 10, 2014, 03:54 AM

Originally Posted by Mike

A humidifier??

Have no idea
I like how it's look and the smell
thought it will be nice to have one like that in my living room

**pelo911** · January 10, 2014, 04:08 AM

Originally Posted by pelo911

Have no idea
I like how it's look and the smell
thought it will be nice to have one like that in my living room

Think I found it

Thanks mike

HM 36 - Broksonic

**NorthStar** · January 10, 2014, 03:14 PM

Originally Posted by pelo911

I have wired question
I was there today
trying to find out what is the white machine on the left that make a great smell of eucalyptus (smoke)

someone know?

Originally Posted by pelo911

Have no idea
I like how it's look and the smell
thought it will be nice to have one like that in my living room

Could you indicate exactly what it looks like, and in which picture exactly can you see it?
...You said it's white, and what shape does it have? ...Not that white long bowling pin?
...Or does it have transparent plexiglass tubes? ...Nah, or you would have mentioned it.
If you can be more precise I'll do my very best to find out exactly what it is.

EDIT: Ho, you've already found it!

...But I was very close, and I would have find it too.
{You can see it on the first and last (4th) picture.}

**NorthStar** · January 10, 2014, 03:21 PM

Check this cool light's effect!

...You can see them at the back, in the two corners, atop some wood furniture & stands.

* The people sitting in that room are looking at each other to find out who's got some acid (LSD).

...I think the guy sitting on the left, further in the background, is the one.

...They all look at him!
...And the girl strippers are in the kitchen (alcove door to the right) getting ready.

**Mike** · January 10, 2014, 03:29 PM

This room was hilarious. I started looking for my high school girlfriend!

**NorthStar** · January 10, 2014, 03:38 PM

--- Was she there?

**Mike** · January 10, 2014, 03:58 PM

Sadly, no. All I was missing was the Commodores and her.

**still-one** · January 10, 2014, 04:09 PM

Originally Posted by NorthStar

Check this cool light's effect!

...You can see them at the back, in the two corners, atop some wood furniture & stands.

* The people sitting in that room are looking at each other to find out who's got some acid (LSD).

...I think the guy sitting on the left, further in the background, is the one.

...They all look at him!
...And the girl strippers are in the kitchen (alcove door to the right) getting ready.

There was a room like that at RMAF too.

**dev** · January 10, 2014, 05:09 PM

Originally Posted by Myles B. Astor

For those not using FB. Sorry that things seemed to have gotten a little jumbled up in transferring from FB to the PFO website.

ces20142

Hi Myles,

I wanted to say Thank You!, that was a great report write up

**NorthStar** · January 10, 2014, 05:58 PM

Serious cabling. ...Do you notice something quite peculiar?

**NorthStar** · January 10, 2014, 06:05 PM

...And this is the rest of that room.

**veindoc** · January 10, 2014, 07:07 PM

Boy Leo Yeh must have a great camera in addition to a great eye for photography. Thnx again for such great images.

Nick

**dev** · January 10, 2014, 07:25 PM

Originally Posted by veindoc

Boy Leo Yeh must have a great camera in addition to a great eye for photography. Thnx again for such great images.

Nick

I agree, marvelous shots and has a great eye for sure. It's allot of work in general navigating ones way threw out all of these rooms to be effective, never mind providing such end results in such a short time frame.

Two thumbs up to anyone who does this, I know I really appreciate and never get tired of viewing.

Thank You!

**NorthStar** · January 10, 2014, 07:25 PM

Originally Posted by veindoc

Boy Leo Yeh must have a great camera in addition to a great eye for photography. Thnx again for such great images.

Nick

He's got few. ...A Canon EOS among them. ...And he's a professional (audio journalist/photographer).

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**dev** · January 10, 2014, 07:45 PM

Originally Posted by NorthStar

Serious cabling. ...Do you notice something quite peculiar?

Gotta love seeing the external cross overs exposed, allot of Stealth Audio cabling. Those speaker cables are their latest called Dream Royale's. I received mine a few months ago, huge in diameter in comparison to my original dreams see attached pic showing the two side by side. Nice looking Vac Statement 450 mono blocks too - I like mine better

**Myles B. Astor** · January 10, 2014, 08:03 PM

Day three at ces 2014.

Day four and best sounds coming up.

**MDP** · January 10, 2014, 08:16 PM

Thanks Myles, your reports have been super !!

**NorthStar** · January 10, 2014, 08:18 PM

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* Headphone Listening:

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* Record Cleaning Machines (check the right background on that first picture below - cute):

**stereosystem** · January 10, 2014, 08:20 PM

Originally Posted by veindoc

hope it sounds good. To my eye it looks awkward and cartoonish. Something Wile E. Coyote would b blown off the edge of a cliff with by the Roadrunner.
IMHO
Nick

I saw it in person at CES. A real piece of art. Massive. Most people around me were speechless.
Difficult to build an opinion based on a pic.

**NorthStar** · January 10, 2014, 08:52 PM

Originally Posted by Myles B. Astor

Peter Breuninger and I are doing our show wrap up tomorrow and that should be up at AVShowrooms next week.

I bet that Peter would love to join us here, and we would all benefit.

**veindoc** · January 10, 2014, 09:04 PM

Originally Posted by dev

Gotta love seeing the external cross overs exposed, allot of Stealth Audio cabling. Those speaker cables are their latest called Dream Royale's. I received mine a few months ago, huge in diameter in comparison to my original dreams see attached pic showing the two side by side. Nice looking Vac Statement 450 mono blocks too - I like mine better

Boy u can get lost touring his website(my-hiend,com)-it just keeps bringing incredible images-page after page. What fun

Nick

**NorthStar** · January 11, 2014, 02:53 AM

Originally Posted by veindoc

Boy u can get lost touring his website(my-hiend,com)-it just keeps bringing incredible images-page after page. What fun

Nick

...And too much time needed just to look at pics. ...Some members truly operate over there, including Leo.
...Keeping the torch of "music" ♪ hy hend burning in our soul and well alive.

**Glareskin** · January 11, 2014, 05:08 AM

Originally Posted by dev

here's a pic of Bob setting up his Elite arm on my Air Force One

at my home.

I like the view from your window!

**Glareskin** · January 11, 2014, 06:38 AM

Originally Posted by wisnon

Thanks Nick.
Looks like you guys are having fun.

Yes, I only know Mike by phone

So I guess you couldn't go there either Norman? Same here. For this year I've put my cards on the High-End in Munich. It is in my agenda, flights and hotel are booked!
Are you going to go Norman?
Would be great to meet some of the Sharks...
Who is planning to go?

**dev** · January 11, 2014, 08:48 AM

Originally Posted by Glareskin

I like the view from your window!

Thanks Glareskin

**wisnon** · January 11, 2014, 08:59 AM

Originally Posted by Glareskin

So I guess you couldn't go there either Norman? Same here. For this year I've put my cards on the High-End in Munich. It is in my agenda, flights and hotel are booked!
Are you going to go Norman?
Would be great to meet some of the Sharks...
Who is planning to go?

Maybe. I have not planned that far ahead yet. I usually have work obligations around that time. I guess i could even drive, but it would be a distance…maybe 8 hours?
The sure one for me in 2014 is Montreux. Not even sure about Zurich.

Vegas was great this year because of all the new debuts of products and manufacturers.

**NorthStar** · January 11, 2014, 05:40 PM

Norman, what type of tweeters are those (atop the small tower speakers)?

* Also, do you notice something different here in that setup (top picture)?

**wisnon** · January 11, 2014, 06:24 PM

Dunno, but they look interesting. Curiousity peaked!!!

**Bruce** · January 11, 2014, 07:30 PM

Originally Posted by NorthStar

Norman, what type of tweeters are those (atop the small tower speakers)?

* Also, do you notice something different here in that setup (top picture)?

Ala the Harold Beveridge Speaker setup!

B

**NorthStar** · January 11, 2014, 08:01 PM

Originally Posted by wisnon

Dunno, but they look interesting. Curiousity peaked!!!

Well, they have the exact same shape as my Linaeum Ribbon Dipole (Omni) tweeters - soooo, they got to be.

* As for the unusual setup: The small tower speakers are facing each other (ain't their final position though; and them ribbon tweeters are not part of their design - they are simply resting on their tops).

**wisnon** · January 11, 2014, 08:03 PM

thought so, but as you asked, it introduced doubt..

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