Am I Being Censored on Another Audio Forum Site?

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I participate on a few audio forums and I have never seen that level of micromanaging moderation. The W B F site seemed to be outwardly accommodating but this kind of puts a new perspective on it. The trolls have moved to Twitter where gratification is quicker and not moderated IMHO.
 
It’s not uncommon to be banned by audio sites for even honest and reasonable comments. I was recently banned by What’s Best Audio.

Why? Because I commented on the demo of the VAC - Von Scheweikert at Florida Expo that the equipment was impressive but the sound was inconsistent. A couple of posters, including a TAS reviewer, strongly disagreed with me. And within a day or two, I was banned.

Interesting that such a transparent but respectful comment would end up with a ban; specially in a site that is known for disrespectful and insulting arguments. I’m not sure if my comments are still there but I used to go by MJB.

VAC & Von Scheweikert are both big advertisers on WBF, so you must not have any negative views.
any product that is not advertised is up for open slander if needed.

sad but true.
 
VAC & Von Scheweikert are both big advertisers on WBF, so you must not have any negative views.
any product that is not advertised is up for open slander if needed.

sad but true.

We once ran industry related ads. It lasted about two weeks. Someone would say “I heard X amp and it sucked.” 15 minutes later my phone rings from Company X with a demand to “delete that comment and ban that guy!!!”

Ritmo’s example is a perfect one. His comment was basically a particular sponsors room sounded inconsistent. That’s pretty PC.

Hence, the reason we don’t have ads today except those that are handled by Google Adsense.

I know I could make way more money on ads from industry related folks, but the headaches aren’t worth it. We make less than $30 a month from the Google ads. We could be making thousands. But, been there, done that. Just not worth it.


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Ahh the good old "speaka zee ivandays" while he casually buys his wife/son/gardener a new Porsche.... All good Mike. I wont say anymore.
 
Ahh the good old "speaka zee ivandays" while he casually buys his wife/son/gardener a new Porsche.... All good Mike. I wont say anymore.

Kev, how much money is enough?
I would luv to know :yahoo1:
 
VAC & Von Scheweikert are both big advertisers on WBF, so you must not have any negative views.
any product that is not advertised is up for open slander if needed.

sad but true.

i can personally tell you that does not happen. there are 'not subtle' attempts to 'stroke' advertisers to a degree, but never seen any advertising related moderator actions. i personally posted plenty of VAC criticisms over the last 2 years since i had the VAC Statement 450's in my room for 3 months.

and the cables that Von Schweikert sells, Masterbuilt, have taken lots of serious flack on WBF over the years. the speakers, which i used to own (VR9SE in 2004-2005), are not (or very rarely) criticized only because they are very good.

you can make a case that the footers that Steve Williams sells get plenty of promo, but certainly no more than happens here. and Steve gets a bit of flack (some from me) for that on WBF, but it's never moderated.

every product on WBF is fair game. 'troll-like' fly by comments get deep sixed.....but that is rare.....and 'form' not 'product' related. i've seen intense criticism of products of advertisers not get moderated when i thought it should be. and the site owners are not dictators at all, there is a good level of back channel communication when there is conflict.

plenty of politics and intrigue on WBF of course, as there are on any intense hobbyist forum. justice is not as blind as it might be.
 
i can personally tell you that does not happen. there are 'not subtle' attempts to 'stroke' advertisers to a degree, but never seen any advertising related moderator actions. i personally posted plenty of VAC criticisms over the last 2 years since i had the VAC Statement 450's in my room for 3 months.

and the cables that Von Schweikert sells, Masterbuilt, have taken lots of serious flack on WBF over the years. the speakers, which i used to own (VR9SE in 2004-2005), are not (or very rarely) criticized only because they are very good.

you can make a case that the footers that Steve Williams sells get plenty of promo, but certainly no more than happens here. and Steve gets a bit of flack (some from me) for that on WBF, but it's never moderated.

every product on WBF is fair game. 'troll-like' fly by comments get deep sixed.....but that is rare.....and 'form' not 'product' related. i've seen intense criticism of products of advertisers not get moderated when i thought it should be. and the site owners are not dictators at all, there is a good level of back channel communication when there is conflict.

plenty of politics and intrigue on WBF of course, as there are on any intense hobbyist forum. justice is not as blind as it might be.

I almost spit up my coffee when I read this. There are sacred cows and they are defended. You might need to define what "troll like fly by comments" means and why it's OK they are "deep sixed." DDK's comments about "fake wood with crop circles" didn't go over very well and I would hardly call David a troll. It all depends on whose feelings are getting hurt.
 
I almost spit up my coffee when I read this. There are sacred cows and they are defended. You might need to define what "troll like fly by comments" means and why it's OK they are "deep sixed." DDK's comments about "fake wood with crop circles" didn't go over very well and I would hardly call David a troll. It all depends on whose feelings are getting hurt.

any other reaction from you would surprise me.
 
any other reaction from you would surprise me.

You shouldn't be surprised because you know I tell it like it is. Some people who swear they love them some truth only love truth when it coincides with their version of the truth. I was a real founding member of WBF and I was there from the very beginning unlike other people who bought their way in years later and participated in revisionist history. I guess that is no different than being name a senior contributing reviewer when you haven't had a stereo system in a decade. I know what the forum is about which is why I made the decision to leave once and for all.

Best wishes and Warp 9 Mike!
 
Mike-I'm blown away that you were banned by the World Boxing Federation. You are the mild-mannered reporter from the Daily Planet. There are people on that forum that deserved to be banned, but you certainly weren't among them. You just dared to speak the truth as you heard it.

World Boxing Federation ... :umbrella::cool: :ko::boing::signhere::cantmove::disbelief: lol
 
You shouldn't be surprised because you know I tell it like it is. Some people who swear they love them some truth only love truth when it coincides with their version of the truth. I was a real founding member of WBF and I was there from the very beginning unlike other people who bought their way in years later and participated in revisionist history. I guess that is no different than being name a senior contributing reviewer when you haven't had a stereo system in a decade. I know what the forum is about which is why I made the decision to leave once and for all.

Best wishes and Warp 9 Mike!


Hahahaha, Plenty Irony as usual ..... :)
 
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