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    Re: Focal Utopia III Scala V2's in the house!

    Mike, I am looking at the Scala V2. My audio dealer in France is offering one pair that he says has a very unique finish for Ä12500. Listened to them in the latest guise, Scala Evo and sheerly enjoyed them in all sincerity.

    I am considering them against a pair of new Rockport Atria IIs. To make matters more interesting, another dealer back home says he is willing to part with the Scala Evo for Ä25000.

    Since you have had the V2, would it be wise to go for the V2 or Evo or just gun for the Rockies?


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    Re: Focal Utopia III Scala V2's in the house!

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob82 View Post
    Mike, I am looking at the Scala V2. My audio dealer in France is offering one pair that he says has a very unique finish for Ä12500. Listened to them in the latest guise, Scala Evo and sheerly enjoyed them in all sincerity.

    I am considering them against a pair of new Rockport Atria IIs. To make matters more interesting, another dealer back home says he is willing to part with the Scala Evo for Ä25000.

    Since you have had the V2, would it be wise to go for the V2 or Evo or just gun for the Rockies?


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    Thatís a great question. I think the Scala V2 can be very enjoyable and at $12,500, not a bad option. The Evo is a minor improvement IMO since the Scala saw three iterations and the rest of the line only saw two. Albeit the v2 Scala was rushed to market because there was a flaw with the V1. The Evo is interesting, but not sure itís worth double when it comes to the Scala, Maestro yes, but Scala, no.

    The Focal tweeter requires some work on your part to ďtameĒ. You must ensure you have first and second point ABSORPTION, not diffusion and certainly not bare walls. Be very careful with cable, source and amp matching as well. Any of those that lean towards at top down presentation may exacerbate the problem.

    As for the Rockportís, I can only voice what I see: people seem to love their Rockportís at first and then move on within a year. I know these might be the exceptions rather than the rule, but itís just what Iíve observed.

    I think there are better options out there, but addressed your question.
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    Re: Focal Utopia III Scala V2's in the house!

    Your comment if applied to the Scala tweeter I can get on board with but the Maestro Utopia III tweeter never needed any "taming". Currently I have no treatments in my new place at any reflection points (just got everything set back up) and man is the tweeter on the Maestros smooth (cymbals and violins are WOW).

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    Re: Focal Utopia III Scala V2's in the house!

    Quote Originally Posted by Bar81 View Post
    Your comment if applied to the Scala tweeter I can get on board with but the Maestro Utopia III tweeter never needed any "taming". Currently I have no treatments in my new place at any reflection points (just got everything set back up) and man is the tweeter on the Maestros smooth (cymbals and violins are WOW).
    Isnít it the same tweeter?

    Hey, some guys like bite, some like Joe and I donít. Itís all ok.


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    Re: Focal Utopia III Scala V2's in the house!

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    Isn’t it the same tweeter?

    Hey, some guys like bite, some like Joe and I don’t. It’s all ok.


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    Re: Focal Utopia III Scala V2's in the house!

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    Isnít it the same tweeter?

    Hey, some guys like bite, some like Joe and I donít. Itís all ok.


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    That comment indicates you don't have good familiarity with the Utopia line. The Scala tweeter is a little hot, the Maestro not at all.

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    Re: Focal Utopia III Scala V2's in the house!

    Quote Originally Posted by Bar81 View Post
    That comment indicates you don't have good familiarity with the Utopia line. The Scala tweeter is a little hot, the Maestro not at all.
    Thatís a little rude. But, to your point, they are slightly different


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    Re: Focal Utopia III Scala V2's in the house!

    LOL - yeah Mike, don't you know anything about speakers ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    That’s a little rude. But, to your point, they are slightly different


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    Re: Focal Utopia III Scala V2's in the house!

    You just can't win.
    It was a loaded question to start with.
    Kudos to you for even trying.
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    Re: Focal Utopia III Scala V2's in the house!

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    Thatís a great question. I think the Scala V2 can be very enjoyable and at $12,500, not a bad option. The Evo is a minor improvement IMO since the Scala saw three iterations and the rest of the line only saw two. Albeit the v2 Scala was rushed to market because there was a flaw with the V1. The Evo is interesting, but not sure itís worth double when it comes to the Scala, Maestro yes, but Scala, no.

    The Focal tweeter requires some work on your part to ďtameĒ. You must ensure you have first and second point ABSORPTION, not diffusion and certainly not bare walls. Be very careful with cable, source and amp matching as well. Any of those that lean towards at top down presentation may exacerbate the problem.

    As for the Rockportís, I can only voice what I see: people seem to love their Rockportís at first and then move on within a year. I know these might be the exceptions rather than the rule, but itís just what Iíve observed.

    I think there are better options out there, but addressed your question.
    Mike,

    After looking the price of what Scala V2s are going at, it seems steep even considering the premium color finish that is on it.

    I agree on the tweeter, listened to the Sopra 2 and 1 and did not like the Focals until the Scala Evo driven with FM Acoustics.

    Been looking at some other makes too. Several other options are in consideration too- Kharma DB7S, Magico S3 MK 2, WA Yvette, Vivi Audio Kaya.

    The hunt continues.


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