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    Re: *NEW* Esoteric N-05XD

    Green light should mean external clock is active.


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    Re: *NEW* Esoteric N-05XD

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    Green light should mean external clock is active.


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    I reread the manual, I only had the N-01XD for a couple of months, and it appears that we are both correct… depending on if you have the clock sync set to ON or OFF. I had it set to OFF as I only used the USB and NET input. In this instance the light is solid green indicating that the internal oscillator is being used.

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    Re: *NEW* Esoteric N-05XD

    On N-01 and P1 I've only seen the blue CLOCK light (because I use an external clock). On G-02X the clock light is green if configured for adaptive zero ground, and blue if configured for normal operation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by brodricj View Post
    Clock light in green means what, no external clock?
    That’s probably the case for me as I don’t have an external clock.

    What’s good? I’d prefer to keep the color in black and I know most esoteric clocks don’t come in black.

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    Re: *NEW* Esoteric N-05XD

    Quote Originally Posted by MDP View Post
    I ordered one just like it!

    I hope it doesn't take 3 months
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    Re: *NEW* Esoteric N-05XD

    hi guys, first post here and English is not my mother language so excuse me in advance :

    I was looking for a new streamer with DAC in the 5K plus region and was leaning on a Ayre Digital Hub with the solo focus of Streaming Tidal via Roon Nucleus.
    My other equiment is a SME turntable with Gold Note phono preamp connected to an integrated fom Luxman, the 507uxII. My old streamer is already sold, a Lumin.

    Then, this new Esoteric N-05XD appeared and i am still intrigued if i can take advantage of its preamps capabilties, besides the more straightforward Roon Ready function.
    So, if i understood correctly, with this N-05XD i would be able to connect my phono preamp to a XLR input and then from the Esoteric to my Luxman integrated also via XLR output. On this case, the integrated would work only as a power amp and i could control the volume and all other options via the Esoteric. Am i right?
    If so, should i expect a sound quality upgrade on this solution comparing to my current, feeding the phono directly to the Luxman?

    Any feedback is much welcome

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    Re: *NEW* Esoteric N-05XD

    Your stated budget is half of what this thing costs....
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    Re: *NEW* Esoteric N-05XD

    I can get a demo unit whithin some weeks or strech my budget...if my assumption of improving also by analog source is right.
    Also, will not decide before a in house demo, of course.

    Are we audiophiles or not?

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    Re: *NEW* Esoteric N-05XD

    Well, looks that i am going to find by myself

    Will let you know, if anyone interested.
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    Re: *NEW* Esoteric N-05XD

    does anyone knows if using balanced outpus to my integrated Luxman and setting the volume control to variable(instead of fix) on the N5-xd i am turning off the preamplification of the Luxman ?

    Tks.

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    Re: *NEW* Esoteric N-05XD

    Quote Originally Posted by beckzito View Post
    does anyone knows if using balanced outpus to my integrated Luxman and setting the volume control to variable(instead of fix) on the N5-xd i am turning off the preamplification of the Luxman ?

    Tks.
    After reviewing the connections and manual for the Luxman the two pair of XLR inputs appear to be standard inputs which would be routed through both the preamplifier and power amp sections. There is a pair of RCA inputs marked "MAIN IN" which allow direct access to the power amp section without going through the preamp section, but I don't see any similar input via XLRs provided. Hope that helps and welcome to AudioShark!

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    Re: *NEW* Esoteric N-05XD

    Luxman MAIN IN (for connection to a separate preamp) is RCA only, and you need to turn on SEPARATE function to use this connection.

    Since it's RCA only, from a connection standpoint I think you're better off using the N-05XD line out L_VOL as FIX and use the Luxman to control the volume.

    Or, you may do an A/B comparison of N-05XD preamp with RCA output vs the N-05XD FIX XLR output to Luxman integrated preamp. Be careful with volume settings before starting any music playback.
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    Re: *NEW* Esoteric N-05XD

    Many thanks to both of you.

    For the time being i set a Denon AVR to the Main In of the Luxman with RCA... and from Luxman to Esoteric with XLR. Also set the Esoteric as L_VOL Fix.

    This way i control AV and Stereo content with only one volume control.

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    Re: *NEW* Esoteric N-05XD

    Hi again

    My demo N05-XD had "Tidal Connect" on display everytime when playing from the app ... but my new model presents only format and bit rate.
    I already updated the general firmware and checked network module version: 14.1s (on esoteric website last one is 14.1k but no 14.1s, strange...)

    Plus, i did not find any setting to toggle the screen information.

    Anyone knows what i am missing here?

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    Re: *NEW* Esoteric N-05XD

    I would recommend you read the manual. I have the N-01XD, so cannot help you, but I can assure you everything is in the manual.

    For the firmware updates, check the website: N-05XD | DOWNLOADS | ESOTERIC:Japan high-end audio manufacturer | エソテリック (scroll down to the bottom, notice the tabs)

    Then consult the manual on how to view what your current firmware / software version is in your unit.
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    Re: *NEW* Esoteric N-05XD

    Quote Originally Posted by beckzito View Post
    Hi again

    My demo N05-XD had "Tidal Connect" on display everytime when playing from the app ... but my new model presents only format and bit rate.
    I already updated the general firmware and checked network module version: 14.1s (on esoteric website last one is 14.1k but no 14.1s, strange...)

    Plus, i did not find any setting to toggle the screen information.

    Anyone knows what i am missing here?

    PS-sound is a delight(Lumin D1 was good but this makes my Marten speakers reach the heaven)
    Now that you mentioned it, I do have the same question. Mine seems to come with most updated firmware version. And it’s displaying format and bitrate, not “tidal connect”. Manual doesn’t seem to explain it as well, I just went through it twice.

    Not that it matters a lot, but it’d be good to know.

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    Re: *NEW* Esoteric N-05XD

    Please try the various buttons on the front panel especially < > . On the old N-05 there is a front panel button that toggles status display. I don't have the N-05XD to test with, but perhaps N-05XD may have similar buttons on the front panel.
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    Re: *NEW* Esoteric N-05XD

    Hi Peter

    < and > act like previous and next track.

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    Re: *NEW* Esoteric N-05XD

    I got the answer from Japan. If I have not misunderstood it, for N-05XD this display is controlled by whether it's in fixed volume mode or variable volume mode.

    Please turn off the power amp and test both settings for Tidal Connect.

    Make sure you restore the setting you need and the correct volume before you turn on your power amp again.
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    Re: *NEW* Esoteric N-05XD

    Quote Originally Posted by kzhtoo View Post
    Sounds like you loved your demo, Mark. Please do share your impression.

    It’s breaking in nicely for me. Still has a way to go to hit 200 hours as Mike recommended. So far so good and no feeling of being underwhelmed whatsoever. Rich, big sound from the get go. I came from MSB Discrete, so it’s my bare minimum. Excited to explore its feature set such as headphone output, pre-amp function in the coming days, although this will mainly be used as DAC + media player in the rig.
    How do you feel it sounds after 3 weeks, compared to the discreete ?

    BTW - you can get the Mutec Ref 10 clock in black. Hugely better performance than Esoteric clock. Cheaper too (one of the rare cases where sth is much better and cheaper at the same time).
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    Re: *NEW* Esoteric N-05XD

    Exactly like you described, Peter

    Dont know whats Esoteric logic on showing either source info or format/bitrate on screen, depending on the volume control...but no big deal here

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elberoth View Post
    How do you feel it sounds after 3 weeks, compared to the discreete ?

    BTW - you can get the Mutec Ref 10 clock in black. Hugely better performance than Esoteric clock. Cheaper too (one of the rare cases where sth is much better and cheaper at the same time).
    N-05XD is a winner. Big sound, very detailed yet musical. Play every genre very well, at least the ones I listen to. I had some worries as I can’t stand the bright sound or sibilance and N-05XD produces neither. I can listen for hours without fatigue.

    There’s also something about media player + DAC in one box implementation. For this $10k-ish price point, I feel this is the way to go. It just sounds more coherent to me than my previous setup.

    As a side note, my current Ethernet connection is EtherREGEN &gt; Gigafoil &gt; Shunyata Omega &gt; DAC. Previously also was the same setup except another Ethernet connection from EtherREGEN to Roon Nucleus.

    Currently contemplating to add a 10MHz master clock. As suggested, thinking of either Mutec or CyberShaft. EtherREGEN might also benefit from it by running another line. BTW if anyone has an extra OP21A lying around, I’d like to know about it.

    As for the break-in, I’m quite bad keeping tab on how the process progresses. I did notice even at 300hr (this is &gt; recommended 200hr), it was still changing. Now I’m at &gt;500hr and seems to have fully broken in. Do note, I don’t know exact number of hrs it’d take.

    To conclude, I recommend N-05XD wholeheartedly.

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    Re: *NEW* Esoteric N-05XD

    I'm patiently waiting for them to send me mine!

    Not!
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    Re: *NEW* Esoteric N-05XD

    What filters have you settled on?
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    I still have it on for default, which is PCMF OFF, PCMΔΣ 512 and DSDF OFF.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kzhtoo View Post
    I still have it on for default, which is PCMF OFF, PCMΔΣ 512 and DSDF OFF.
    When I auditioned it in my room, I found I liked the RDOT filter.
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    Re: *NEW* Esoteric N-05XD

    Esoteric wins more gongs with D1X and N05XD.
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    Re: *NEW* Esoteric N-05XD

    Well,well,well.......My black N05XD showed up Saturday

    Right out of the box it sounds big and beautiful....great bass,smooth treble, a great sense of space.

    I'm thrilled, and it's not even close to broke in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MDP View Post
    Well,well,well.......My black N05XD showed up Saturday

    Right out of the box it sounds big and beautiful....great bass,smooth treble, a great sense of space.

    I'm thrilled, and it's not even close to broke in.
    That was relatively quick and nice surprise. Congrats and enjoy!

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    Fantastic news Mark! Glad you are happy!
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    Congratulations Mark. The N-05XD is a fantastic piece.

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    Re: *NEW* Esoteric N-05XD

    I had RDOT filter selected since day one because it is the easiest one to like:more bass, fuller sound, more body and presence.

    On the last week i changed to OFF and it is growing on me, seems more balanced and detailed without being to harsh.
    I have big Marten speakers so in the long term it may be the one i choose from.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beckzito View Post
    I had RDOT filter selected since day one because it is the easiest one to like:more bass, fuller sound, more body and presence.

    On the last week i changed to OFF and it is growing on me, seems more balanced and detailed without being to harsh.
    I have big Marten speakers so in the long term it may be the one i choose from.
    I was the same way.....but after break in I prefer Off.
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    Re: *NEW* Esoteric N-05XD

    New member here but I've been reading this forum for a very long time. I am searching for an option for a new DAC and streamer. It's impossible to try everything in home and I'm doing my best to go to Audio shows and research products I'm interested in. I was looking for a separate DAC and Streamer but have now decided to also include combination DAC/Streamer all-in-one boxes like the Esoteric N-05XD. I understand the pro's/cons of separate components and combination boxes. The problem I can't seem to decide is if the sound quality of a separate DAC and Streamer will be better than a combination box if the price of both is equal. For instance, I could purchase the Esoteric N-05XD for approximately $11,000 US dollars but I could also purchase a Holo Audio May KTE DAC and a Auralic ARIES G2.1 streamer for roughly the same price minus cabling. Obvious advantages of combination boxes are saving shelf space, factory synergy/integration of DAC and streamer and not having to purchase connecting cables. Disadvantages are if anything breaks in the box the whole thing needs to be sent in for repair. Also, if the DAC or streamer gets outdated you can't separate them and will need to sell the entire box.

    I was wondering if others faced this same problem and how they resolved making a purchasing decision? I'm SURE the Esoteric N-05XD is an excellent product but I also understand there is a premium price for this brand. Also, this comes with a preamp that I really don't need/want and a headphone amp I have no use for. I have listened to some combination boxes including the DCS Bartok and it wasn't my cup of tea. My main question is can I do better than the Esoteric N-05XD for the money by buying separate components? Is the combination box a sound compromise and more for convenience when you factor in the costs? All opinions welcome. The above example of separate components was just an example, substitute Chord or any other major name products that would equal approximately $11,000.

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    Welcome to the forum!
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    Quote Originally Posted by musicman1 View Post
    New member here but I've been reading this forum for a very long time. I am searching for an option for a new DAC and streamer. It's impossible to try everything in home and I'm doing my best to go to Audio shows and research products I'm interested in. I was looking for a separate DAC and Streamer but have now decided to also include combination DAC/Streamer all-in-one boxes like the Esoteric N-05XD. I understand the pro's/cons of separate components and combination boxes. The problem I can't seem to decide is if the sound quality of a separate DAC and Streamer will be better than a combination box if the price of both is equal. For instance, I could purchase the Esoteric N-05XD for approximately $11,000 US dollars but I could also purchase a Holo Audio May KTE DAC and a Auralic ARIES G2.1 streamer for roughly the same price minus cabling. Obvious advantages of combination boxes are saving shelf space, factory synergy/integration of DAC and streamer and not having to purchase connecting cables. Disadvantages are if anything breaks in the box the whole thing needs to be sent in for repair. Also, if the DAC or streamer gets outdated you can't separate them and will need to sell the entire box.

    I was wondering if others faced this same problem and how they resolved making a purchasing decision? I'm SURE the Esoteric N-05XD is an excellent product but I also understand there is a premium price for this brand. Also, this comes with a preamp that I really don't need/want and a headphone amp I have no use for. I have listened to some combination boxes including the DCS Bartok and it wasn't my cup of tea. My main question is can I do better than the Esoteric N-05XD for the money by buying separate components? Is the combination box a sound compromise and more for convenience when you factor in the costs? All opinions welcome. The above example of separate components was just an example, substitute Chord or any other major name products that would equal approximately $11,000.
    My personal opinion is if the playing field is not at the stratosphere level, one box solution for streamer + DAC is way to go for $10k-ish price point. It gets most bang for your buck as one box has its own sonic advantages. Also it’s important to note that when N05XD first came out, it was regarded as new product category and I do expect many similar products to come out in coming years.

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    Yeah. What he says. The price point of N05XD is very odd. It should have been priced much closer to N01XD.
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    Thanks for your opinions on this. Every comment helps. I still don't fully understand how you came to your conclusions that a one box solution is better? Did you do some type of A-B testing with a combination box versus separate DAC/Streamer? I have no doubts that a single box solution can be very good. I even outlined some of the Pros and Cons above in my original post. Is a single box solution better since both the DAC and streamer were manufactured by the same company and designed to work together and have good synergy? Certainly, there are some disadvantages with them sharing a single chassis with noise and sharing common parts such as power supplies. I do admit that the single box solution is very attractive to me with saving space on my desktop. On the other hand, my ultimate objective is sound quality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brodricj View Post
    Yeah. What he says. The price point of N05XD is very odd. It should have been priced much closer to N01XD.
    No, it shouldnt have. The N-01XD is overpriced. Either way I still liked it, the Distributor is a mess though.

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    I guess I'm not going to get any more input on this. I'll be at Axpona next week for all 3 days and I see Esoteric will be there so hopefully I can get more opinions and do some listening.

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    Quote Originally Posted by musicman1 View Post
    I guess I'm not going to get any more input on this. I'll be at Axpona next week for all 3 days and I see Esoteric will be there so hopefully I can get more opinions and do some listening.
    You can buy my X1 for $11K… itll sound better than the N-05XD or any other 2 piece components you will cobble together

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    "I still don't fully understand how you came to your conclusions that a one box solution is better?"

    I agree with kzhtoo at this price point. A two-box solution requires two cases and power supplies - significant cost items that could be used to upgrade the DAC/streamer electronics in an integrated solution. Also, don't forget to include the cost of the additional power and interconnect cables, and, as was mentioned, shelf space. But in the end, the keys will be how do they sound and do they include the functionality most important to you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by musicman1 View Post
    Thanks for your opinions on this. Every comment helps. I still don't fully understand how you came to your conclusions that a one box solution is better? Did you do some type of A-B testing with a combination box versus separate DAC/Streamer? I have no doubts that a single box solution can be very good. I even outlined some of the Pros and Cons above in my original post. Is a single box solution better since both the DAC and streamer were manufactured by the same company and designed to work together and have good synergy? Certainly, there are some disadvantages with them sharing a single chassis with noise and sharing common parts such as power supplies. I do admit that the single box solution is very attractive to me with saving space on my desktop. On the other hand, my ultimate objective is sound quality.
    I’m mainly talking from my personal experience. I used to own MSB Discrete (which is awesome BTW) and recycled a few media players in $2k-4k range. The advantage of N-05XD in my system I notice is immediacy, coherency and that bold dynamic Esoteric’s own in-house Master Sound Discrete sound. All these attributes collectively is what won me over although MSB analog sound is quite addictive too.

    Again, I need to stress that we’re only talking about $10k price range. I do think players like Taiko Extreme or Aurender N20, N30, etc. can raise the performance of any DAC. But those players alone cost multiple times more than N-05XD.

    I’d suggest you audition N-05XD in your system if you could and give it plenty of break-in time as, just like many other DACs with quality components, it takes a bit of break-in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dznutz View Post
    You can buy my X1 for $11K… itll sound better than the N-05XD or any other 2 piece components you will cobble together
    I doubt it.

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    Re: *NEW* Esoteric N-05XD

    Are you all speculating as to which sounds better, the X1 or the N-05XD, or do you have actual experience? I would love to hear some impressions of these two from those who have heard both in the same system. Perhaps Mike could chime in as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MPW View Post
    Are you all speculating as to which sounds better, the X1 or the N-05XD, or do you have actual experience? I would love to hear some impressions of these two from those who have heard both in the same system. Perhaps Mike could chime in as well.
    I own the X1 and have owned the N-01XD. I would assume the N-05XD is inferior to the N-01. That being said I prefer the X1 to the N-01. Its more organic sounding without losing any detail. Its also a very well ironed out product. Now the N-01 is built better than the X1, material and assembly is ahead for sure. So there you go… neither touch the sound quality I get from my DC-1000 Dac, at double the price of course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MPW View Post
    Are you all speculating as to which sounds better, the X1 or the N-05XD, or do you have actual experience? I would love to hear some impressions of these two from those who have heard both in the same system. Perhaps Mike could chime in as well.
    I never had X1 in my system, hence it’s more of speculation. I read somewhere MSB Discrete is preferred over X1. I’m thoroughly familiar with MSB Discrete as I had it for 2+ years.

    Anyhow, can’t deny synergy and personal preference. Digital has come so far that even at $10k-ish level, it has become quite difficult for a quality component to leave another quality component in the dust.

    Also, N-01XD isn’t entirely the same as N-05XD. One is a DAC and the other being one box solution.

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    N-01XD is also a streamer/DAC
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    Re: *NEW* Esoteric N-05XD

    I have owned Lumin’s S1 and X1 - both terrific streamer/dacs.

    I currently own the Esoteric N01XD. In my system and my ears, the N01XD is clearly superior to the excellent Lumin X1 and the very good S1.

    Now, we know that in all things audio, personal taste really matters. But to me, the musicality of the latest generation of Esoteric is much more natural sounding than the presentation of the Lumin X1.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    N-01XD is also a streamer/DAC
    I think you’re right. N-01XD is network DAC, whereas N-05XD is network DAC/ preamp that has headphone amp and volume control.

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