Thread: Grandioso C1X
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March 5, 2021, 09:37 AM #1
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Grandioso C1X
Picked up the new Grandioso last night to replace my C1. I hoping to get it setup this morning very curious about the new Ultra Fidelity Attenuator and ES Link .
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March 5, 2021, 09:44 AM #2
Re: Grandioso C1X
Congratulations!
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March 5, 2021, 09:46 AM #3
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Hope it performs in your rig R . Looks like an amazing pcs of gear.
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March 5, 2021, 09:49 AM #4
Grandioso C1X
Congrats. Let us know how it compares.
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March 5, 2021, 09:59 AM #5
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We always enjoy getting updates on new gear. Looking forward to updates.
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March 5, 2021, 11:11 AM #6
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March 5, 2021, 12:55 PM #7
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Congrats and happy listening!
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March 5, 2021, 04:48 PM #8
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Re: Grandioso C1X
I understand the Power Supply has a left and right bank , but why the need for (2) power cables
is beyond me . Am I missing something here ?
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March 5, 2021, 04:57 PM #9
Grandioso C1X
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March 5, 2021, 05:30 PM #10
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Re: Grandioso C1X
I get the concept for separate power supply’s L/R but (2) separate power cables that plug into
the same power strip makes no sense . If that’s for keeping the power clean then maybe (2) separate power supply housing would also help instead of putting both supply’s in the same housing with no separation .
I will try to post some feedback as soon as I return home later in the week
I’d like to add I was just curious about the (2) cables , my C1 was same way . I really liked the C1 and I know the X is going to be a awesome linestage also or I wouldn’t of bought it .
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March 5, 2021, 07:27 PM #11
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Congratulations on the upgrade from what is already a fantastic pre-amp (C1) to the C1X!
I hear you however the real winning idea is that those 2 cables both power separate and isolated power supplies inside the C1X's power module and then over (again) fully isolated DC lines into the audio section of the C1X. Dual-mono as a design philosophy taken 100% of the way, no half-measures. One could argue that you might get 99.xx% (or pick a favorite quibbling percentage) if they only used one power cord into the power supply and then split out the input supply into separate power supplies to feed the dual umbilicals however their position has been with C1 and continues to be with the C1X that if you want to implement dual-mono in a pre-amp, this is the ultimate way to truly do it 100% from the wall in...
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March 5, 2021, 08:09 PM #12
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March 5, 2021, 08:40 PM #13
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That's easy,...>AGREED!
BTW...I had the same question years ago when the C1 came out and the Gryphon. I was used to 2-box pre-amps and the 'why' they were preferable, same with transports
and DACs but the the 2-power cord approach on the C1 took some getting used to. A very few amps out there follow that philosophy as well...Legacy Audio Valor+Wavelet v2, Esoteric S-02 Amps HDPlex 300W, RevAudio Labs DC Umbilical, Esoteric Grandioso P1, P1PSU & dual D1 DACs, Cybershaft Prem Ltd OP21A 10 MHz Clock, Esoteric C-02X, Shunyata Everest 8000 & Altaira SG-NR hubs, Sigma SGC/CGC ground cables, VTX-Ag ground tails, AfterBurner8 duplexes, CSP Inc Q4B, S2B IEC plates, Shunyata Omega CLOCK-50 cables, Tubulus Concentus HDMI, Elrod Master Series Diamond SE & Masters Series Gold Power cords and Statement Gold XLRs, Diamond XLRs & Master Series Diamond XLRs, Shunyata OMEGA QR-s power cable, Anaconda Z-tron XLR, Elrod Statement Gold speaker cables, Adona Zero GX3, GX2, GX racks, Composite Audio CF-2010, Townshend Audio Podiums, HRS DPX Damping Plates, Stillpoints Ultra SS w/Ultra Bases, pArtScience 64-well, 2D QRD 3-inch SpaceArray Diffusors
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March 6, 2021, 01:03 PM #14LS: Vienna Acoustics Klimt "The Music"
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March 6, 2021, 10:10 PM #15
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And what did you do with your Grandioso C1, did the dealer do a trade-in on that?
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March 6, 2021, 10:21 PM #16
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March 6, 2021, 10:32 PM #17
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Cool. There is a new Grandioso G1X now with an upgrade option for existing G1 owners via the VUK-G1X upgrade kit.
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March 6, 2021, 10:54 PM #18
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Re: Grandioso C1X
I know someone selling a G1 I’ll have to check into that
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March 6, 2021, 11:04 PM #19
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I don't think the upgrade kit gets you a 100% G1X, only the electronics and the rear chassis plate are changed (G1X has five 10Mhz outputs compared to the G1's four). There were also changes made to the G1X chassis. I don't know how the numbers work out, upgrading vs a straight out buy on a new G1X. I have seen dealer sales of used G1 in my market for about $15K. I suspect the upgrade path, minus the chassis upgrade, would be tempting for existing owners.
Too bad there is no upgrade path for N-01 owners to the N-01XD spec.Speakers: Magico M3, ACC, S-SUB | Electronics: Esoteric Grandioso stack | Amplification: Halcro |
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March 30, 2021, 10:26 PM #20
Re: Grandioso C1X
Any updates on C1X ? How does it sound compared to C1 ?
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April 6, 2022, 08:46 AM #21
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Re: Grandioso C1X
New C1X firmware v1.11d has been released. It's interesting how firmware can be tweaked to vary the feel of the volume knob and the remote control volume key.
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