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    Meitner MA-3 DAC





    We are taking orders TODAY!

    MSRP pricing is $9,500.

    The Meitner MA3:

    Introducing Meitner Audio’s ground breaking MA3 Integrated D/A converter. The MA3 combines Ed Meitner's proven world-class sound techniques from our beloved DA2 V2 and DV2 converters, with network audio streaming functions from our popular and simple to use NS1 Streamer.

    The MA3 features:
    · 16xDSD MDAC2Meitner MA-3 DAC DACs coupled with our proprietary MDAT2Meitner MA-3 DAC DSP
    · VControlMeitner MA-3 DAC volume control used in our EMM DV2 converter
    · Support for up to 2xDSD, DXD and full MQAMeitner MA-3 DAC decoding
    · Built in network streamer for music streaming service integration

    Designed and manufactured in Canada, simply connect it directly to amplifier(s) and speakers of your choice and enjoy! The MA3 is the perfect integrated digital hub for any high end system.


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    Re: Meitner MA-3 DAC

    Looks nice. Good bundle of features.
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    Re: Meitner MA-3 DAC

    Really looking forward to hearing listening impressions on this one!
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    Perfect feature set IMHO. As a Meitner owner in the past I would be keen to hear it or learn about what others think.


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    Meitner MA-3 DAC

    I’ve got the first one on the way. It’s a >$10K all in one, just plug in an Ethernet cable (with Roon) and it has a great pedigree. Add an amp and speakers and go. The built in VC takes care of the preamp needs in an all digital system.
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    Re: Meitner MA-3 DAC

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    ...It’s a >$10K all in one...
    $9,500 MSRP and it's a >$10k all in one? I'm confused.
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    Re: Meitner MA-3 DAC

    Quote Originally Posted by brodricj View Post
    $9,500 MSRP and it's a >$10k all in one? I'm confused.
    <$10k


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    Interesting. Following.

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    Re: Meitner MA-3 DAC

    Very interesting product.

    I was hoping that we would see a new Meitner product as EMM Labs dacs start at 30K US MSRP now. At least that is my understanding.

    That being said, I wonder if will see an EMM Labs version ? Aka a 20K DA2 V2 +NS1 in one box.

    To compare to Esoteric N01XD

    Speaking of, hope they release a successor to the N05 (XD?)but, with the new FPGA.

    I'm not sure I need the volume control of the Meitner/EMM product.

    Can it be disabled?

    Although you don't need or require an External Clock , like you would or can add with an Esoteric

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    Re: Meitner MA-3 DAC

    Owned the MA1 DAC way back when. Fine sounding piece. I'm sure this will do very well.
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    Re: Meitner MA-3 DAC

    double post

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    Re: Meitner MA-3 DAC

    in black! looks a lot better imho

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    Re: Meitner MA-3 DAC

    Mine arrived today.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    Mine arrived today.


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    Let us know what you think.


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    Re: Meitner MA-3 DAC

    Quote Originally Posted by Kuoppis View Post
    Let us know what you think.


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    Re: Meitner MA-3 DAC

    wow! mouthwatering

    color matches the taiko perfectly. at least on the pictures.
    beating everything already fresh out of the box?

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    Re: Meitner MA-3 DAC

    Looks like a very nice DAC with great features for the price.
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    What a tease, Mike Meitner MA-3 DAC.


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    Re: Meitner MA-3 DAC

    Quote Originally Posted by u-sound View Post
    wow! mouthwatering

    color matches the taiko perfectly. at least on the pictures.
    beating everything already fresh out of the box?
    It’s identical color! Identical.

    I’m using the Taiko Extreme to break in the MA3 since the Roon certification is still a “few weeks away”.

    First impressions, a VERY VERY different sound for EMM/Meitner. This has all the detail you would expect and want, but it’s smooooooth on top. Dynamic. Punchy. Bass is excellent. I hate to call it a home run so early, but daaaaaaamn! I look forward to putting some hours on this baby and hearing it open up.

    I’m using the Boulder 1110 preamp, so not testing the VC of the MA3.


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    Re: Meitner MA-3 DAC

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    It’s identical color! Identical.

    I’m using the Taiko Extreme to break in the MA3 since the Roon certification is still a “few weeks away”.

    First impressions, a VERY VERY different sound for EMM/Meitner. This has all the detail you would expect and want, but it’s smooooooth on top. Dynamic. Punchy. Bass is excellent. I hate to call it a home run so early, but daaaaaaamn! I look forward to putting some hours on this baby and hearing it open up.

    I’m using the Boulder 1110 preamp, so not testing the VC of the MA3.


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    Do you think it sounds better than the DA2? I'd be hard pressed to believe it sounds better than the emm stack I have. ... I hope


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    Can the VC control be disabled? For those that wish to use their own external premap.

    I don't think this can match the or supposed to compete with DA2+NS1 combo.

    EMM labs uses ceramic boards in their line compared to Metiner. Less Distortion = higher resolving.

    What will be interesting to me at least. Will there be an EMM Labs version of the MA-3? Let's say, for 20k MSRP.

    A one box solution to compare to the Esoteric N01XD.

    The new entry point to EMM Labs is 35K for the DA/DV2 plus the NS1.

    So, perhaps there is room for something underneath that price bracket.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phishphan View Post
    Do you think it sounds better than the DA2? I'd be hard pressed to believe it sounds better than the emm stack I have. ... I hope


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    Totally different.


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    Quote Originally Posted by mdp632 View Post
    Can the VC control be disabled? For those that wish to use their own external premap.

    I don't think this can match the or supposed to compete with DA2+NS1 combo.

    EMM labs uses ceramic boards in their line compared to Metiner. Less Distortion = higher resolving.

    What will be interesting to me at least. Will there be an EMM Labs version of the MA-3? Let's say, for 20k MSRP.

    A one box solution to compare to the Esoteric N01XD.

    The new entry point to EMM Labs is 35K for the DA/DV2 plus the NS1.

    So, perhaps there is room for something underneath that price bracket.
    Just turn it up full and it then goes to disable mode, one past 100.

    I don’t see anything like that coming. The MA3 is it.


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    Hi Mike,
    How does it compare to MSB Discrete? Same range but addition of Roon endpoint integrated + Ethernet and USB inputs come installed in MA3.

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    Re: Meitner MA-3 DAC

    Quote Originally Posted by kzhtoo View Post
    Hi Mike,
    How does it compare to MSB Discrete? Same range but addition of Roon endpoint integrated + Ethernet and USB inputs come installed in MA3.
    You’ll have to come and listen. Meitner MA-3 DAC

    It doesn’t have the meaty analogness of the MSB. But it’s smooth, detailed and very musical. I think it’s a home run.


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    It's a great small dac. Beats my mobo dac in every way. For some it's a start but for me it's the end of the journey in searching audio equipment. Probably not going to buy anything better than this in a very long time.

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    just heard there will be long waiting time up to 6 month in europe and price might go from 9900 up to 10900euros.
    however, i should get a black one in a couple of days.

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    I love EMM. Such a great company. I've gotten to be friends with Amadeus over the last couple years, and had the pleasure of chatting with Ed on the phone a few months back.

    I hope they come out with a lower priced line of amps. 100k for mono blocks is hard to justify. If I did that, I feel like I'd need another 100k for speakers. Which would lead to another 100k for a divorce lawyer.


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    Meitners dacs have always been good performers.
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    anymore soundimpression from this baby? how is the burn in doing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by u-sound View Post
    anymore soundimpression from this baby? how is the burn in doing?
    Yes. It’s been playing non-stop. Opening up nicely. It has a meaty full sound with a detailed, but smooooooth top end. Tried it with pre and without. I may like it direct better.

    Definitely a really good DAC with great features for $9995.


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    cool, thx.
    direct means without pre?

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    well, skipping the pre is the plan.

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    So, you have Heisenbergs, and are planning to skip the pre... WTF?

    Seriously??


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    i dont know meitner and have no clue what will work well together.
    ma3 should be here in a couple of hours. my first streamer.....
    once i will have learnt the functions and the unit is burnt in, yes, sure i m going to try how it sounds without a pre.
    and if it is close enough, well, i might skip it.
    currently the internal pre of the humboldt drives the heisenbergs. sound is a pure dream. however, if the humboldt can be taken out of that system without a big loss and be used elsewhere....open story

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    You’ll have to come and listen. Meitner MA-3 DAC
    It doesn’t have the meaty analogness of the MSB. But it’s smooth, detailed and very musical. I think it’s a home run.
    New MA3 combo looks promising! Amazing product from the first point of view.
    Do you think it's better than Aqua's separate combo like Linq streamer + La Scala DAC (or Formula xHD)?
    If better / worse is not applicable how can you describe the overall difference in sound between them?
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    Quote Originally Posted by NightTiger View Post
    New MA3 combo looks promising! Amazing product from the first point of view.
    Do you think it's better than Aqua's separate combo like Linq streamer + La Scala DAC (or Formula xHD)?
    If better / worse is not applicable how can you describe the overall difference in sound between them?
    It all depends on whether you want Roon or not. The LinQ doesn’t do Roon, only HQ Player.

    I frankly think the Aqua La Scala v2 is incredibly engaging and musical. The MA3 sounds smooth and musical, takes longer than most DAC’s to break in and open up.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    It all depends on whether you want Roon or not. The LinQ doesn’t do Roon, only HQ Player.
    Yes and no )) As I know the LinQ native Roon-module unable to play Roon anymore, while HQP module can be managed by Roon.
    And Aqua recently introduced the new HQPlayer Core (Server) module for the LinQ, therefore it becomes easier to use Roon with LinQ with new HPQ module.
    It's not direct way, of course, but doable.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    I frankly think the Aqua La Scala v2 is incredibly engaging and musical. The MA3 sounds smooth and musical, takes longer than most DAC’s to break in and open up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NightTiger View Post
    Yes and no )) As I know the LinQ native Roon-module unable to play Roon anymore, while HQP module can be managed by Roon.
    And Aqua recently introduced the new HQPlayer Core (Server) module for the LinQ, therefore it becomes easier to use Roon with LinQ with new HPQ module.
    It's not direct way, of course, but doable.



    Thank you, Mike, got it!
    True. A little bit of a work around, but doable.


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    Quote Originally Posted by geallan70 View Post
    This is a new unit from a dealer about to get a phone call.


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    Quote Originally Posted by NightTiger View Post
    Yes and no )) As I know the LinQ native Roon-module unable to play Roon anymore, while HQP module can be managed by Roon.
    And HQP managed by ROON sounds noticeably better than ROON stand alone. BTW, Aqua recently introduced the new HQPlayer Core (Server) module for the LinQ? I must have missed that. Cost known yet?
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    This is a new unit from a dealer about to get a phone call.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil A View Post
    They have a bunch of products listed for sale - tom_onestaudio's Classified List - Canuck Audio Mart
    Those will be gone soon.


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    the ma3 is here now for a month. burn in was long as mike has mentioned. since there was other changes in the system i lost track what is the dac and what not during that time. if i still had to describe the sound, i d call it fruity. ripe. i like it.
    just a guess, if it had a more sophisticated ps, it could even be an outstanding dac.

    the remote control is very very lovely. of all i ever had it is my favorite.
    the frontplate of the unit is sandpolished in the highest possible quality with a silky feeling. i give it a 10/10.
    unfortunately the volume knob has a different surface/feel and the color doesnt match the frontplate.
    the knob....well, it is wobbling and the clicks are to cry for.
    using the pre of the ma3 didnt work well in my case. sound felt somewhat collapsed. on top i had hum on it, a constant one that didnt react on volumesetting. the meitner people consulted to use xlr to the pre and to ground the unit. i didnt try that...used as a dac there is no hum even with rca and no grounding.

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    ^ that is very good information to have... why these "quirks" aren't immediately noted by the Dealers representing them Ill never know. You literally have to buy it and be disappointed to know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dznutz View Post
    ^ that is very good information to have... why these "quirks" aren't immediately noted by the Dealers representing them Ill never know. You literally have to buy it and be disappointed to know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    What quirks?
    Wobbly/clicky volume knob and “hum” when using the volume control function.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dznutz View Post
    Wobbly/clicky volume knob and “hum” when using the volume control function.
    Maybe it’s just his unit? The VC on the MA3 is excellent, not wobbly and there is no hum.

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