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February 18, 2019, 10:36 AM #51
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That's too bad for the vast majority of users of the DA2 as only 50 TX2 transports were produced thanks to Esoteric refusing to continue to sell the VOSP transports to third parties. But then again, it doubles the cost of the setup and most people seem enamored with servers and the like so I doubt many would purchase the transport even if available.
USB has always been a garbage standard for audio. It's not surprising that it would take more effort to wring performance out of it. As such, I would be interested to know if the USB input is in fact worse performing than AES/EBU and SPDIF versus USB simply requiring more effort to overcome its lack of suitability for the purpose for which it is being used.
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February 18, 2019, 10:26 PM #52
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Hi Bar81, I read somewhere that you recommended Aural Symphonics's optical cable and I bought one for use between the EMM transport and DA2. Thanks very much for a great recommendation!
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February 19, 2019, 03:45 AM #53
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Welcome to the forum, thank you for joining.
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February 19, 2019, 04:37 AM #54
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February 19, 2019, 04:54 AM #55
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Hi Andy, great SQ improvement in almost all areas. If there's no dealer in Singapore you can email Aural Symphonics direct, and price is around US$1,700. A friend of mine is in the optical business and has instruments to test and view optical cables. Apparently not all optical cables are created equal : for example the shape of the contact point which is very important and any scratch will permanently damage the cable. He tested 3 optical cables : the Aural Symphonics, a Jadis and the EMM cable. Technically the best was the Aural Symphonics. Do not buy used, as you don't know if cable has scratches etc
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February 19, 2019, 06:20 AM #56
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February 19, 2019, 10:05 AM #57
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My pleasure. It's a nice upgrade to the combo for a "reasonable" price.
Whenever you decide to tweak your system again, consider this:
Computer Audio Design GC1 Ground Control
https://www.computeraudiodesign.com/gc1-ground-control/
http://www.computeraudiodesign.com/C...nd_Control.pdf
Not sure I really understand the necessity for a grounding device given that I have a star grounded power setup, but I purchased one recently, connected it to the AES/EBU digital output of the TX2 and an unused SPDIF digital input (PDAI) of the DA2 and my mind was blown. I always thought the guys going on about treating signal ground and AC earth were a little bit crazy but I'm a convert.EMM Labs TX2 SE|DA2 V2| Ayre KX-R Twenty | D'Agostino Momentum M400 | Focal Maestro Utopia III | MIT Oracle MA | VH Audio | Shunyata King Cobra CX | Shunyata Everest | Harmonic Resolution Systems | CAD Ground Control
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February 19, 2019, 04:51 PM #58
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February 19, 2019, 09:17 PM #59
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Hi, Interestingly, Jason Victor Serinus of Stereophile, in his review of the DV2, said: "... a few comparisons of the MacBook Pro with the dCS Network Bridge revealed that nothing sent from the MacBook Pro via USB sounded anywhere near as full and rich in colors as signals that bypassed the computer entirely and relied solely on the Network Bridge's coax outputs. Realizing that, regardless of the claimed jitter-free superiority of EMM Labs's USB input, my USB source was compromised ... Even with a computer as the source, when I played Debussy's Trios Chansons de Bilitis from our January 2019 'Recording of the Month,' mezzo-soprano Joyce DiDonato Into the Fire (24/96 WAV, Erato 573800), I was won over by the beauty of the DV2’s extremely natural, warm, smooth, and non-fatiguing sound.”
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February 19, 2019, 09:46 PM #60
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Hi Bar81
Thanks for the tip on ground control. I am using the Nordost Qkore 6 and find it lowers the noise floor of the system, thus enabling more details to be heard. However it wasn't a mind blowing effect. I am connecting the Qkore to the AES output/input of the TX2 and DA2.
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February 20, 2019, 12:07 AM #61
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February 20, 2019, 01:14 AM #62
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You're way ahead of me then
Take a look at this review from Roy Gregory (personally, one of the very few reviewers I trust). He likes and uses Nordost products. While I don't have the full setup of Ground Controls he's using, his description of the effects is spot on so far (although obviously I can't comment on the effect of combining units until I get another one):
http://www.computeraudiodesign.com/T..._Review_LR.pdf
He mentions in his review that not all grounding products have the same effectiveness.
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February 20, 2019, 03:08 AM #63
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High praise from Roy Gregory indeed, and I do have lots of Nordost products. Will try CAD if the chance comes up.
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February 20, 2019, 04:54 AM #64
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Hi, I am using the Shunyata Research Hydra DPC-6 Digital Power Distribution Center. The Hydra DPC-6 electrically isolates these digital devices and provides a firewall to prevent them from polluting and degrading the sonic performance of the audio components sharing the power line. In my system, the Hydra DPC-6 elimination of the digital noise results in greater clarity to the sound. Resolution and focus are greatly improved and micro dynamics of instruments seem more real. The DPC-6 is far superior (with digital components) to the Shunyata Triton power distribution center.
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February 20, 2019, 05:12 AM #65
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Thanks for the report, I don't know of many people who have purchased the DPC-6. Most either just get the Triton or maybe will add the Typhon and stop, even those with digital front ends. Are you saying you connect your DA2 to the DPC-6? If so, that's interesting since it's not a fully digital unit and DPC-6 seems to be focused on fully digital items like transports, streamers and monitors.
In any case, just to be clear, what the CAD Ground Control addresses is not adequately dealt with by any power conditioner, including the Shunyata full stack.
To me, the CAD Ground Control is at least as important as power treatment given the improvement in my system that I've heard from the insertion of only a single GC1.
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February 20, 2019, 07:21 AM #66
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Hi, Yes, My DA2 and EMM transport are connected to the DPC-6. Connecting the DA2 to the DPC-6 does not affect transients in my system.
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February 21, 2019, 03:43 AM #67
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Yes. Jason Victor Serinus also says "But when I ditched the computer and, using the Aurender N10's USB output, played JA's MQA-encoded master file of Eric Whitacre's Lux Aurumque, from male vocal ensemble Cantus's While You Are Alive (24/88.2 CD Baby 5637240534), the music server's more color-filled sound assured me that this would be one joy-filled review."
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February 21, 2019, 09:18 AM #68
Emm da2 dac
There is a reason why people are moving away from USB. If Meitner has not heard the penny drop on that, too bad for him. The surprising question of course is, why to make a 25K DAC and not offer the best interfaces? And more surprisingly, why are the highest bit rates only supported via this suboptimal interface?
And Jason clearly states, to his ears USB is the inferior interface based on his review.
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February 22, 2019, 07:06 AM #69
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Hi, Take a look at the following specifications:
aurender N10 specification:EMM Labs DA2 specifications:Bit and Sample Rates SPDIF : Up to 24-bit, 192kHz (PCM); 1-bit, 2.8MHz (DSD64)
USB : 32bit /384kHz, 1-bit, 2.8MHz (DSD64); 1-bit, 5.6MHz (DSD128)
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EMM Optilink (CD/SACD)
Supports up to 24bit, 192kHz on all PCM inputs: AES/EBU, USB Audio, 2x SPDIF Coax, 2x S/PDIF Toslink
USB also supports streaming DSD, 2xDSD, DXD (352 and 384kHz)
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February 22, 2019, 08:44 PM #71
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Hi all, Take a look at Lumin X1's specification also: DIGITAL OUTPUT STAGE
USB: Native DSD512 support,PCM 44.1–768kHz, 16–32-bit, stereo
BNC S/PDIF: PCM 44.1khz–192khz, 16–24-bit; DSD (DoP, DSD over PCM) 2.8mhz, 1-bit
Optical network: Industry-standard SFP, 1000base-T Eigabit Ethernet. Adapter may be needed for your particular switch/cables. Use simultaneously with RJ45
My point is that EMM Labs is offering all available options, including the AES3 (AES-EBU) interface!
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February 23, 2019, 04:17 AM #72
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Hi all, I want to point out that the DA2/DV2 offered not only state-of the-art sound, but also state-of the-art measurements (See JA's measurements of the EMM Labs DV2 in the March 2019 issue of Stereophile) Take a look at the impulse response of the DV2 with 44.1kHz data. There is no ringing on either side of the pulse! In contrast, take a look at the impulse response of Filter 1, 4, 5 of the Vivaldi DAC provided by John Atkinson. JA said: "Fig.1 shows the impulse response of Filter 1 with 44.1kHz data. The symmetrical ringing either side of the pulse maps the filter coefficients and reveals this filter to be a conventional linear-phase type. ... Filters 2–4 have increasingly shorter linear-phase impulse responses (fig.2 show Filter 4's impulse response), while Filter 5 (fig.3) is a minimum-phase type, with all the ringing following the pulse." (Read more at https://www.stereophile.com/content/...dJscoGcqxF9.99) John Atkinson concluded that the DV2 offered state-of the-art measured performance.
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February 23, 2019, 04:58 AM #73
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Andy, you might not see the wood of the trees here or are intentionally trying to confuse things. In all the information you put out, there’s somehow no mention that the DA2/ DV2:
- only offer MQA via USB
- only support full bandwidth over USB
- do not have an Ethernet connection/ streaming capability
Based on the DV2 Stereophile test I initially cited, the best SQ was not delivered through USB according to the reviewer. Hence, DA2/ DV2 neither allow full bandwidth, nor MQA via the best sounding interface. Streaming capability is something most top-end DACs nowadays support (Brinkmann, MSB, DCS). At a 25K/ 30K price tag I personally expect the bees knees.
That was the point made. Nothing less, nothing more.
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February 23, 2019, 12:09 PM #74
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Hi all, I found the following information online:
AES3: Audio Engineering Society Standard #3EBU: European Broadcasting UnionThe AES3 interface was already specified in 1985 and it wasmade a standard in 1992. Ever since the standard is recurrently updated and adapted to advanced requirements. Fromthere the standard is very universal and it‘s applicability ismanifold. On the other side this makes it somewhat complex.Specifications• 2 channels• balanced transmission• XLR connector• audio data up to 24Bit / 192kHz• cable length: 100m and more• impedance: 110Ohm (± 20%)• level: 2 - 7 Vpp at the output side of a unit(at 110 Ohm, without long wiring)• large channel status information
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February 24, 2019, 02:02 AM #75
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Hi, I want to add that the same applies to SPDIF interface - it will accept audio data up to 24Bit / 192kHz
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February 24, 2019, 03:32 AM #76
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Exactly, lots of material nowadays comes in 24/352.8K or with UHDCD even 32/352.8K.
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February 24, 2019, 02:48 PM #77
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So USB accepts a higher data rate, that does not mean it it is the better sounding option.
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February 25, 2019, 10:22 AM #78
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February 25, 2019, 10:37 AM #79
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Sorry, a repeat
Last edited by Yuen Andy; February 25, 2019 at 10:48 AM. Reason: a repeat
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March 1, 2019, 04:00 AM #80
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Hi all, the review of the EMM Labs DV2 by JVS of Stereophile is now available online: https://www.stereophile.com/content/...2-da-processor
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March 1, 2019, 07:32 AM #81
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That’s good. So now everybody can read for themselves what he really said .
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March 2, 2019, 02:55 AM #82
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Actually that "perfect" impulse response is a technical flaw from sampling theory's pov; It is obtained by using a very slow roll off filter (opposite of what Chord does for example with their extremely sharp filters) of which effect you can see in the intermodulation distortion graph (compare it to Chord DAVE or even Qutest).
https://audiophilestyle.com/forums/t...comment-758025
If the DA2/DV2 can work on Linux without drivers with the USB connection, it could be used with something like a Lumin, Auralic or Aurender that offer USB outputs to be able to play the higher rates without resorting to a PC.
What I find puzzling is the DSD128 limitation of the DA2/DV2 over USB when the converter itself upsamples internally to DSD1024.
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March 2, 2019, 11:42 AM #83
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[QUOTE=Anatta;264080]Actually that "perfect" impulse response is a technical flaw from sampling theory's pov; It is obtained by using a very slow roll off filter (opposite of what Chord does for example with their extremely sharp filters) of which effect you can see in the intermodulation distortion graph (compare it to Chord DAVE or even Qutest).
https://audiophilestyle.com/forums/t...comment-758025
According to what I have read, the cause of ringing (transient smearing) is due to a signal being bandlimited and are undesirable because it imprint digital audio with an unnatural sound quality.
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March 12, 2019, 05:51 AM #84
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Hi all,
JVS of Stereophile (in the comment section of his review of the EMM Labs DV2) said: "I spent a huge amount of time with the DV2, which is now with me on loan to use in future reviews because I think it sounds so good. Because my best source for feeding it files is the Network Bridge, which doesn't have a USB out, I limit my files to 192 PCM or DSD64, and forego playing MQA."
Read more at https://www.stereophile.com/content/...i1VkgI4UhqF.99
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March 12, 2019, 06:06 AM #85
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Have you heard any Lampi dacs ? I have on hand a gg2 and new pac as well.
I owned the msb plate 4 all updated.
I have heard at Lenth the msb sel 2. It's a good dac but lampizaror plays music not just sound
as for any dc being brite I doubt any is made to be and can be made right with many adjustments.
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March 12, 2019, 06:08 AM #86
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My Systems: http://www.audioshark.org/showthread...481#post158481
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March 12, 2019, 06:10 AM #87
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Your up early I like that lol. My pac cleared customs yesterday I can pic it up today
I also have a new GG2 as well. Lets see what a head to head sounds like.TUBEZATOR
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March 12, 2019, 06:13 AM #88
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My Systems: http://www.audioshark.org/showthread...481#post158481
"We can hear everything we measure, but we can't measure everything we hear. Let your ears be your guide."
Dealer for: Aqua Hi-Fi, Aurender, AudioQuest Cables & Power Products, Berkeley Audio, Block Audio (distributor), Boulder Amplifiers, Bowers & Wilkins (B&W), Bryston, Clarisys Audio Loudspeakers (distributor), Classe’ Audio, Degritter Record Cleaning Machines, Esoteric, Finite Elemente, FirstWatt, Focal Loudspeakers and Headphones, GigaFoil, Harbeth Loudspeakers, Hegel, HiFi Man, Innuos, ISO Acoustics, Keces Power Supplies, Kharma Loudspeakers and Electronics, Kuzma Turntables, Lumin, Luxman, Magico Loudspeakers, MBL Speakers & Electronics, MSB Technologies, MySonicLabs Phono Cartridges, Nordost Cables, Ortofon, Pass Labs, Quadraspire, Rega Turntables and Electronics, Shunyata Research, STAX, Stein Music Products, Stillpoints, Soulution, VAC, Vicoustics, Viva Audio, VPI Industries, WireWorld Cables.
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March 12, 2019, 06:16 AM #89
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Hahaha good reply yes I did it was a buddies this one is mine
it's a cool color scheme too. I'll post pics soon. Both the GG2 and the PAC are SE modelsTUBEZATOR
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March 12, 2019, 06:17 AM #90
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Mike I can't. Seem to upload pics any advice ?
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March 12, 2019, 06:42 AM #91My Systems: http://www.audioshark.org/showthread...481#post158481
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March 12, 2019, 07:36 AM #92
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March 12, 2019, 07:42 AM #93
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March 12, 2019, 11:16 AM #94
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May 19, 2019, 11:47 PM #95
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Re: Emm da2 dac
Hi all, you might be interested in the following report by Jonathan Valin (Munich High End 2019: Loudspeakers - The absolute sound)
MartinLogan showed its $80k, three-way, electrostatic-hybrid Neolith (large curvilinear electrostatic panel, 12" front-firing carbon-fiber mid/woofer crossed over at 400Hz, and rear-firing, ported 15" subwoofer), driven by Pass Labs electronics, sourced by an EMMLabs DA2 and a VPI HW-40 turntable, and wired with and conditioned by MIT. Combining a supremely lively and lifelike boxless ’stat sound in the midrange and treble with the best blend of a dynamic woofer/subwoofer of any ML hybrid I’ve heard, the Neolith was superb on a digital cut of Fischer-Dieskau singing Schubert lieder—and on everything else played. So fast and clean and open, these speakers just don’t sound like dynamics; it is as if they aren’t dragging that cone-and-box chain behind them. Of course, they didn’t have all the midbass weight and power of cones either, but with the most finely detailed and realistic midrange I heard in Munich, they simply stood ahead of the competition.
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May 20, 2019, 03:00 AM #96
Re: Emm da2 dac
His comments on this room surprised me. I heard it three times and was never overly impressed. Best I ever heard the ML Neoliths was with the big ARC REF750SE’s. That was magic. Otherwise, I like the ESL 9/11/13/15a range with Constellation.
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May 20, 2019, 02:30 PM #97
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Re: Emm da2 dac
Last weekend I listened to a EMM labs reference system. It is one of the best I've ever heard.
Those amps have a iron grip on these speakers without losing the musicality.
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May 24, 2019, 02:21 PM #98
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Re: Emm da2 dac
Joe Cox, editor-in-chief @ what hifi? (High End Munich 2019 Show Report) states: "What better place to start than a massive pair of electrostatic speakers? "Truth in sound" is what Martin Logan promises from its flagship, made -to-order Neolith speakers and they were certainly sounding staggeringly revealing being fed by electronics from Pass Labs."
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May 24, 2019, 03:13 PM #99
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Re: Emm da2 dac
Ed Selley of hi-fi + (avforums Munich High End 2019 show report) writes: "This wasn’t the most expensive system at the show and neither was it the largest, most complex or even the largest red speaker on show but it generated the sound I liked the most. The Martin Logan Neolith is the flagship design of the hybrid electrostatic speaker from the company and it was doing a fine turn on the end of a system from fellow US high end denizens, Pass Labs. It had truly incredible reserves of scale and combined this with speed, tonal realism and sheer musicality that isn’t always present with systems at the MOC."
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